I don't think all mech heads are created equal any more than all fixed heads and both should be matched to the intended target and conditions. Bow hunters should be open minded enough to realize that there are advantages to be gained in some situations by using a certain style of broad head over another. But I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
Before long some one will post the inevitable "..why risk your once in a lifetime goat hunt to a mechanical?"
Then I would answer, "why risk missing the shot because your perfect form, release and follow through are not there because of fatigue, unusual position and excitement, plus the wind caused your beloved fixed head to veer over the billy's back."
Shoot what you like, but don't blame the head for your misses, after all you choose them and sent them on their mission.
I've heard nightmares about expandables but it's your choice and what works best for you! Just as Ambush mentioned not all expandables are created equal. You may want to do a penetration test with the mechanical you intend on using vs a fixed blade. All of us would be interesting to hear the results!
I'll be chasing goats again starting September 10th and there will be an NAP Spitfire on the business end. Same for any moose that happens along.
Starting the 26 hour drive to Wyoming this morning, for antelope. Now that's two contrasting hunts!!
I've only arrowed two Goats, so I can only tell you about those. The first Goat was shot with a VPA Terminator 3-blade vented, and the second Goat with the largest size 3-blade Grim Reaper (1-3/4"). In both cases the heads tore completely through the Billy.
Intuitively, I doubt Goat hair has much effect on penetration of a mechanical head. It's so light and fluffy. The Grim Reaper entry hole was small on my 2nd Billy, so the head didn't even open until it started passing through the rib cage. Meaning the hair had no effect on blade deployment or penetration.
Goats are tough but a well placed shot is the key...shoot what flys best for you and you will be fine.
The majority of my bow hunters have used fixed.
But for many years it was not legal in Alaska to use expendables on Mt Goat.
That is generally a fear of those with no relevant experience.
My issue has been trying to keep them from opening when practicing...
My only thought is a mechs performance with hard angles and thick hair. I don't think they "bounce off" in the mental image that brings up, but I have seen years ago on a "swing open" blade type that "jackknifed" or "pole vaulted" or whatever you might call it on a hard angle and one blade hit before the point. It looked like it "bounced off" for sure. There was one slice in the deer's hide and some hair on one blade of the head. That was many years ago and I couldn't tell you what brand it was. But I did see it with my own eyes. IMO a fixed blade would not have done that.
I think a more squared up shot angle would not have that issue. And as several have stated, the designs and materials have come a long way since they first came on the market. That's a good thing. My hunting partner was a bowhunting guide for years and he had a cigar box of bent, broken and mangled mech heads. They didn't require a hunter to use fixed blades, but certainly recommended them.
So true. And as soon as I can be GUARANTEED my arrow will hit where I intend, I'll think about mechs, and that statement will have some validity.
If you do choose them, do so for the right reason. Shot distance and wind isn't one of them. If it's too far for fixed, it's too far, period. If it's too windy for fixed, mechs aren't going to help significantly.
Picked up a pack of grim reaper fatal steel 1 1/4" the other day to have in my quiver in case of a longer shot in the wind on a moose, these heads look awesome, I can't see them failing! On any other shot I will be using an exodus
Good advice on these posts, I have never shot a goat, but shot 2 rams, one with a magnus stinger and one with a ramcat,,,,,, I only shoot 53lbs so I do not have enough push for a mech, but I would listen to the voice of experience on the site......
Just make sure the bow is tuned, the front of center is good and the arrow weight isn't ultra light. They'll work just fine.
I have no problem getting fixed blade heads to fly like laser beams so mechs are no cop out. I get pass throughs no matter what I shoot but I'll tell you this; the copious discharge left behind by the mech heads is better than fixed. Its a bigger hole so no surprise there. You pinwheel a shoulder with any head you're odds suck no matter what you're shooting. No surprise there either.
Kinda miss Woody. Hope you're out there somewhere buddy. Guy had forgotten more about broadheads than most would ever know..... not that I would give him that point in a debate, but true none the less.... =D
Didn't we all witness Michael Wadell have a broadhead failure on a huge whitetail a while back on one of these posts.
I understand that lots of people have plenty of success with expandable broadheads but you have to pay attention when there are reports of them failing, particularly on specific animals.
Someone mentioned Rocky Mtn Snipers... man those were sweet heads.
Perfectly tuned shooters is where it falls apart.
Well they handled my goat with energy to spare. It was a quartering towards shot and I buried the arrow to his offside hip. I totally buried the arrow in him. If he was broadside it would have passed through him like butter.