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7 FIGURE "HUNT"
This came from a hunting consultant email ad that I get. I suppose that you could use a bow. "Folks, we were contacted yesterday by one of our S. Africa PH's who has the NEW #1 White Rhino Available. This is a seven figure hunt, so if you are interested or know someone who may be, contact us immediately, this will not last long."
I think I'll sign up for this hunt. Seems like it's both affordable and a good idea for me to pursue...
And much quicker than the Super Slam.
Scoot...Let your boy shoot it...Forget the turkey's...Have Joe and Chris guide him on one of these!
I would pay seven figures to hunt to sorry sum bitch that would pay seven figures to kill this animal. That is not hunting.
That's some major horn porn right there. I'm almost full woody now. Too bad I can't afford 4 figures. Ha
Kota that's a great idea! He'll have to pump iron from now until I save enough money to pay for it. He's gonna be jacked by the time I can cover the costs!
That rhino is truly impressive! I had no idea that they could grow horns that long.
While it may not be "hunting" in my book, it's no different than most (all?) of the Governor's tag elk (e.g. the "Spider" bull). And 7 figures might further rhino conservation, rather than losing the horn to a poacher for no conservation....?
Is it not hunting cause of the money involved or cause it's some kind of canned hunt ?
Is it an actual hunt or a darting? I've seen hunters pay to dart them and pose for pictures, plus tagging, and whatever else science does... and release the animal.
I can't imagine affording a seven figure hunt. But, I also can't imagine being worth 9 figures+. It may change your perspective on spending money. Who knows.
I've decided, I think I'll shoot 20 polar bears instead.
Hurry while he still is doing The Mannequin Challenge Picking up the tip would take some coin....
I keep going back to the picture in aw, that thing is prehistoric looking. Raw power. I think Africa should shadow Spain's Running of the Bulls and start doing the "Charging Rhinos" or at least to punish poachers. I'd pay to watch it on PPV.
BROTSKY X10... WTF!!!!
7 figures as in MILLIONS????
I can see the conservation side if it's some rich guy that shoots it with tranq gun. Other than that, WHY? They are almost extinct!
Now & then a rhino is allowed to be killed, many times after an auctioning of the "tag". Money raised by the sale is used to fund wildlife preservation efforts and accomplishes a lot of good. Sure, most Rhino hunting these days is by darting them, but apparently this animal presents a rare opportunity for a massive profit to fund the preservation efforts, including anti-poaching.
Corey Knowlton of the Jim Shockey show Uncharted bought a tag a couple of years ago for $100K or more. I have no idea whether the hunt occurred or not or the outcome if it was held. Of course the usual ensued - death threats, etc from the animal rights wackos.
Yes, I doubt if its really much of a hunt, per se, but look at it more as a donation. A really, really big donation!
Looks photo-shopped, I'll pass.
Just the tip....all I could afford!!!
This is what we have come to? Pretty freaking sad if you ask me.
Does $10,000.99 count as seven figures? If it does I'm in. I can think of a few places I'd like to shove that horn!!!
if I had the money, and if it was a hunt, not a penned zoo critter (which it may well be) hell yeah, I'd give it a go.
Lot of burger in that critter.
"Lot of burger in that critter."
I hear rhino burger tastes a lot like bald eagle fuzzy. Must taste like freedom.
I'm assuming that everyone on here is a hunter, and as hunters we should know that we are the strongest advocates for conservation. We put our MONEY out there to help with conservation efforts. MONEY. Lots and lots of money in some cases, such as this. So, it seems a little crazy to me when I see a person that is most likely a hunter state that "I would pay seven figures to hunt to sorry sum bitch that would pay seven figures to kill this animal. That is not hunting." How do you know? Have you been on a bunch of rhino hunts? Not to mention it is severely twisted to admit that you think it is wrong to conduct a legal hunt under the law versus the murder you are advocating. In addition, this specific rhino is most likely selected because he is past the age where he can effectively breed and remains a danger to other breeding age male rhinos. My point is this... as hunters, we need to stay educated about what hunting does for conservation and also that we should all work together to further hunting as a great pastime and tool for conservation.
In order to further your education on why this hunt will be beneficial... https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2015/09/radiolab-on-whether-trophy-hunting-can-aid-conservation/404350/ Also check out this link about Cecil... http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2016/02/23/zimbabwe-park-to-cull-200-lions-cites-lack-of-hunters/ And... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiyQvm9d4tM
If I had the money, I'd buy that critter, hop in my Gulfstream 650, and order my pilots to Johannesburg. . . But since I didn't win that billion dollar Powerball, I guess I'll have to pass.
Let's be careful though and not jump to too many conclusions about whether this is a hunt or not. Let's not jump to social media conclusions!
Maybe this is a private farmer selling an outstanding animal standing in a 5 acre pen. Or maybe, it's a game department selling an opportunity to hunt an outstanding animal, and significant money will go back into funding rhino conservation (as I believe Corey Knowlton's black rhino hunt was)
For anybody responding who can't tell the difference in just this one picture between a white rhino (which this one is), or a black rhino, your ignorance precludes you from giving your uninformed opinion.
I was ready to sign the papers until they refused to throw in a free warthog. I'm sure not going all that way for just one animal and I can't really justify the warthog trophy fee.
But other than that I don't really care if someone shoots that animal, if it's good for conservation. He's likely a detriment to the breeding population now. Knowlton's was actually a hindrance to the herd expanding and this is probably the case here to.
So let's not get all anti and emotional over an animal. Lots of others already lined up to do that.
In all seriousness, the money paid for this hunt I'm sure would be a windfall for white rhino conservation. We all know the benefits of trophy hunting in Africa to local populations and to the conservation of threatened species. I hope the hunters has a great hunt and takes the animal of his dreams. However, I also have the sense of humor of a 10 year old, so I'm going to make some childish jokes about it along the way.
I wonder if there's ever been a case where a hunter received death threats from an anti and the threat had even one iota of seriousness to it, as in a planning stage, much less the beginnings of executing an actual plan.
I also wonder if an anti who made death threats against a hunter has ever been prosecuted.
Speakin' of, bet the black rhino is only have the amount.
he he he :-)
"one of our S. Africa PH's who has the NEW #1 White Rhino Available. This is a seven figure hunt, so if you are interested or know someone who may be, contact us immediately, this will not last long." Sure sounds like a canned kill to me. I understand killing this animal will most likely be good for the rhino "crash" (a group of rhinos is called a "crash"). I also understand a lot of the 7 figures will go to conservation. I don't understand calling it a hunt. It is not a "hunt" when you pay for a specific animal. I don't care if it is a rhino, Cecil, or a whitetail from the hit list. I don't have 5 figures for a hunt, or 6 figures for a governer's tag, nor 7 for a rhino. Nor would I spend it that way if I did.
Looks like a 2 1/2 year old, only see one growth ring on the front horn. :)
Fake news! Horn is wayyy to short:)
Are we sure that the money will go to conservation and not to some greedy politition in a foreign country? I am not "emotional" about it... I am blown away that almost the entire hunting industry is all about the rich guy.
I have no issue with trophy hunts! I think I was more shocked, I had to re-read the OP three times to make sure I wasn't reading it wrong.
Good Luck to the guy who gets it...
If I had them money I would be there in a heart beat. It is unreal, what a great animal that is... It is sad to see so many here dismiss this as hunting. Sorry but without any details who are you to decide if it is hunting. As far as the idea that they have the chance at the new #1. It is simple to figure out how this works. Rhino tags are only given to take out very specific animals. In this case this is probably a guy who is a little past his prime and as such they want him killed to have a new rhino step up for breeding purposes. As far as the white rhino goes, it is sad how some here are totally ignorant. The white rhino is not doing great, but it is also not going extinct any time soon. In places where they allow regulated hunted they are doing much better than in places where no hunting occurs.
Is rhino any good to eat.?
That weak 2nd will really hurt the score. Maybe would gross as a Booner but no way would net. P&Y sure, all day long. Not a Booner. Has to be said.
From PECO, "I also understand a lot of the 7 figures will go to conservation." I'm with Scar in that I don't get that at all from the info provided. The whole sum could go to the rancher that owns the land and obviously the rhino. This hunt isn't being auctioned at DSC or SCI as a charity. Until more info is known this just screams pure capitalism and what the market will bear for the product available.
I understand that the Chinese make Viagra from rhino horn. Might cause a population explosion.
I KNEW I shouldn't have gone to Vegas last month.........
The post didn't say anything about conservation. It's a picture and a freaking price tag. Quite frankly is pretty discussting. But what's worse is the moral bankruptcy of hunters justifying this crap.
I would only do this if he had a name :)
I bet if this was a $1 raffle opportunity instead of 7 figures, many here would have at least looked into it a little deeper before making a totally ignorant statement.
How do you tip the guide on this hunt..................10%?
If it is a caned hunt you tip like going to buffet. 2-5 % would adequate.
I'm just surprised that this hasn't turned into a broadhead thread yet! :)
Ok, All you guys talking about misinformed and ignorant comments please educate us. I admit I don't keep up with white vs black rhino and the different rules for all the different countries in Africa. I had a pretty good grasp of the PAC elephant hunts and even educated some folks at the SHOT show in Vegas a few years ago and turned them around. But then we all know what happened with the much anticipated hunt that was going to happen here. It seems the rules are always changing and there is a lot of corruption depending on the country. So for those in the know, is it a given that any rhino shot in South Africa $ goes to conservation?
Interesting that we rarely see anyone questioning whether or not it's a "real hunt" when the Average Joe bowsiter posts results/pics from their South Africa plains game hunts on this site. You know the ones where the hunt is done from a hide over a water hole which has been manipulated with barricades to ensure the animal can only access the drink by positioning himself at the proper shooting angle to be easily nailed by the hunter in waiting. And of course normally done inside a big fenced enclosure containing the animals purchased and released for the very purpose. Chances are good that the only difference here is the magnitude of the fee being charged. I have no objection to either scenario. Just something to consider.
Great analogy sticksender...Great post.
Sorry, hunt has been sold. Once I inquired about the "hunt" and found out it included airfare (not advertised) I bought it. Couldn't pass up that deal. I'll post pictures on Bowsite. :)
Pat.... ya still packin' that elephant rig ya had?????
OK, let's just say the whole 1,000,000 + DOES go to the rancher/landowner (and the booking agent, PH and crew).
The landowner gets money that he/she/they can use to keep the land in its current use, which is, apparently, at least partially game/wildlife management. This adds value to wildlife, keeps the land from transitioning to, oh, say crops/cattle.
Still a positive.
Game HAS to pay it's way, or the habitat will be destroyed. That's hard reality.
Where's Melissa McCarthy when you need her? Hahahaha.
In South Africa you are not allowed to use archery gear for Rhino/Elephant/Hippo.
I like Fuzzy's post above. I don't think it really matters whether this money goes into a Game Department's budget or a landowner's bank account. . . it's still a positive.
I believe Texas ranchers claimed that they pretty much saved scimitar horned oryx and addax from extinction. And they may very well be right. They did that because they could propagate the species and make money from selling those animals. So animals that pay their way, stay. Period.
If you object to this, then you better not eat beef. Or mutton, or pork, or anything else bought at a store. Because it's the same dang thing, just costs less. Just like Texas, SA landowners have done a lot to save the white rhino from extinction. All because they could make money off of selling those animals in some way.
"Corey Knowlton of the Jim Shockey show Uncharted bought a tag a couple of years ago for $100K or more. I have no idea whether the hunt occurred or not or the outcome if it was held. Of course the usual ensued - death threats, etc from the animal rights wackos. "
He did do the hunt, and he paid way over 100K for it. It was first expected to bring much more then he paid but the PETA whackos started threatening people and it spooked a lot of bidders away. He let CNN follow him and they did a whole piece on it. It story was surprisingly well done and stayed pretty neutral.
Here is Cory's rhino on display at the SCI convention last month.
I likely couldn't afford the transportation to get that to SCI, let alone the entire new facility to store it on a day to day basis! :) Good for him....
Buying a certified Angus steak is the same as someone else dropping 7 figures to kill a rhino?
Don't be too quick to flame anybody until there are a lot more facts. All we have is a photo and a supposed quote from an ad. May or may not even be real. Assuming it is real, we have no idea if this rhino lives on a 10,000 square mile ranch or in a horse corral.
Sure, the "owner/rancher" is going to make some coin on this animal, but he's obvously figured out a way to protect it from poachers long enough to grow to this size, which means he's probably helped a boatload of other animals evade poachers along the way. Good for him.
At the end of the day culling a mature animal and generating a ton of $ isn't necessarily a bad thing, as Bake summarized well.
As pointed out by sticksender, much of Africa's hunting is different than a solo unguided DIY elk hunt in the Rockies.
"Buying a certified Angus steak is the same as someone else dropping 7 figures to kill a rhino" That is a ridiculous statement! That's like saying killing a bald eagle is the same thing as eating at KFC!
many hunts are now with a dart so the rhino is not killed. Hunter is credited with the animal if that is important. You get to actually touch the animal and then watch it walk away later.
For 7 figures, I highly doubt this is a darting scenario...
As far as the Angus steak reference, I believe the meaning was the only reason cows are alive is because they have an intrinsic value (meat & milk). If they didn't serve a purpose that generated income for ranchers, there would be no reason for them to be raised. Like the scimitar horned oryx and the addax that Bake referred to, because of the income potential, ranchers have an incentive to raise them and have kept them from extinction. Which is a good thing, no?
This post just might set a record for ignorant post. Some of you guys sound like politicians making uninformed stupid comments. Not a one of us here is informed enough to make an intelligent comment on this.
For all the ignorant statements and criticisms so far on this post, I'm surprised no one has contested the idea that this will be the new #1 (if sold, which it likely will be). White rhino horns can get absolutely huge and this one, while impressive, does not look like #1 material to me.
"Uniformed, ignorant, stupid, deplorable", you guys sound like democrats. Are you suggesting there should be no discussions until all facts, real and alternative, are presented? That's nice in a perfect world. Meanwhile, for real world applications, we will make decisions and form our opinions based on limited input.
I know someone who paid $430K for a sheep hunt.
The animal is worth what a person is willing to pay. Sorry but is there really any difference in paying $1,000,000 to go shoot a Rhino vs. paying $100 fee to go shoot a turkey? Or a $50 elk license? In the end many have stated the facts.
Animals must have a value in order to be tolerated by those who are forced to live with them. With no value the animals will be eliminated and replaced with something of value. In this case the scarcity and demand has simply shifted the price point. It happen all the time even here in the US. Look at the price of a Colorado Moose Tag vs a deer or antelope. Look at the price of a small game tag. etc. Different animals have different levels of value.
As posted earlier, no matter where the money ends up, I can guarantee that those who make the money (PH, Rancher, Trackers. Village) and those who receive the meat, are not going to be out the next day poaching the rhino and selling its horn.
From my research, Rhino tags are often offered to target very specific animals for culling. Much like elephant tags. In this case the game managers (Government or Private) have decided that this Rhino needs to be culled. Be it for money to support other projects, be it safety as this Rhino has been attacking visitors, be it biological as he is known to the kill young rhinos, or be it because he has not had an offspring in a couple years.
Either way, it is simply no different at all than any other hunt. Except that it cost more money.
Could a greenie organization in theory buy the rhino and release him into the wild? They could put their money where their mouth is instead of just tweetbitching about it.
I'm 100% for it assuming a significant portion of the proceeds goes back to Rhino conservation. Not my cup of tea given I suspect this is more of a shoot, than a hunt. In no way, shape, or form do I criticize those that want this type of experience, it's just for me I hunt to experience adventure, not a guaranteed outcome. Btw, Corey's mount is epicly bad ass, thanks for sharing the pic!
How much would you pay to legally bow hunt a wild Panda?
How much would a panda hunt auction for?
Holy crap, that rhino mount is cool!
Photos kind of remind me of myself in high school
Ambush, I'm in for a grand on the Panda. Should make a great rug!
"How much would you pay to legally bow hunt a wild Panda?"
If I could use the bamboo crap the wife has around the house to bait it I'd pay quite a bit.
"Don't be too quick to flame anybody until there are a lot more facts. All we have is a photo and a supposed quote from an ad. May or may not even be real" I can assure you that it is an actual quote from an actual ad from a reputable company. I will be happy to provide it to anyone who PM's their email address. I could care less as to whether or not it is canned, fair, or ethical. I did think that it was interesting because it was the first time I had heard of a 7 figure hunt. I suspect that whoever buys it will be spending a smaller percentage of his (her) income or net worth than most of us spend on hunting.
You killed Amanda???? Dude, that's probably not even her real name! Get some bleach, hydrogen peroxide and $hit load of lime..... What Movie?
So nobody brought up the obvious question:
Assuming that you were legally allowed to bowhunt said rhino, which mechanical head would you use?
Ace. . . no one asked that question because it's so patently obvious what the answer would be. . . a Rage
Those Rhino horns really don't look that long;)
"You killed Amanda???? Dude, that's probably not even her real name! Get some bleach, hydrogen peroxide and $hit load of lime..... What Movie?"
Tropic thunder! Great movie!
Will the Rage be fine on a frontal shot on the rhino?
Will the Rage be fine on a frontal shot on the rhino?
Idk what you guys are seeing? Obviously his G2 is to Dam short to score well!
I would only do an up the nostril shot while his head is tilted back with a Rage! You know that's how it's most effective! Oh yeah, inside 20 yards of course!