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Bou'bound 07-Dec-17
Pyrannah 07-Dec-17
midwest 07-Dec-17
Michael 07-Dec-17
JW 07-Dec-17
bow shot 07-Dec-17
Overland 07-Dec-17
Yellowjacket 07-Dec-17
BOHUNTER09 07-Dec-17
HUNT MAN 07-Dec-17
ryanrc 07-Dec-17
Zackman 07-Dec-17
LBshooter 07-Dec-17
Steve Leffler 07-Dec-17
Mpdh 07-Dec-17
Zim1 07-Dec-17
Butcher 07-Dec-17
MathewsMan 07-Dec-17
Kurt 07-Dec-17
GF 07-Dec-17
cnelk 07-Dec-17
drycreek 07-Dec-17
Hawkeye 07-Dec-17
Zbone 07-Dec-17
Buskill 07-Dec-17
Trial153 07-Dec-17
BigOk 07-Dec-17
WV Mountaineer 07-Dec-17
kentuckbowhnter 07-Dec-17
Crusader dad 07-Dec-17
stick n string 07-Dec-17
Dirtman 07-Dec-17
David Geyer 07-Dec-17
MPN 07-Dec-17
bentshaft 07-Dec-17
Deertick 07-Dec-17
Pigsticker 07-Dec-17
PECO 07-Dec-17
kota-man 07-Dec-17
elk yinzer 07-Dec-17
jsgold 07-Dec-17
Stekewood 07-Dec-17
carcus 07-Dec-17
Don 07-Dec-17
deaver25btb 07-Dec-17
CAS_HNTR 07-Dec-17
orionsbrother 07-Dec-17
DRR324 07-Dec-17
Bowboy 07-Dec-17
Bowfinatic 07-Dec-17
Jaquomo 07-Dec-17
PinePoint 07-Dec-17
milnrick 07-Dec-17
t-roy 07-Dec-17
deerslayer 07-Dec-17
StickFlicker 07-Dec-17
grizzly 07-Dec-17
Wayne Helmick 07-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 07-Dec-17
RJ Hunt 07-Dec-17
Bake 07-Dec-17
patdel 07-Dec-17
Bill Obeid 07-Dec-17
Nick Muche 08-Dec-17
Fuzz 08-Dec-17
dg72a 08-Dec-17
Bou'bound 08-Dec-17
pav 08-Dec-17
Moons22 08-Dec-17
elkmo 08-Dec-17
Nimrod90 08-Dec-17
Charlie Rehor 08-Dec-17
casekiska 08-Dec-17
Pyrannah 08-Dec-17
longspeak74 08-Dec-17
mattandersen 08-Dec-17
elkstabber 08-Dec-17
Southern draw 08-Dec-17
brooktrout59 08-Dec-17
TREESTANDWOLF 08-Dec-17
Wayniac 08-Dec-17
BOWNUT 08-Dec-17
GotBowAz 08-Dec-17
John in MO / KY 08-Dec-17
pointingdogs 08-Dec-17
dakotaduner 08-Dec-17
7mm08 08-Dec-17
Shiras 08-Dec-17
splitlimb13 08-Dec-17
steve 08-Dec-17
Treeline 08-Dec-17
Jack Harris 08-Dec-17
Mr.C 08-Dec-17
IdyllwildArcher 08-Dec-17
FlatLndr 08-Dec-17
LINK 08-Dec-17
APauls 08-Dec-17
Rock 08-Dec-17
IowaHawkeye 08-Dec-17
BoonROTO 08-Dec-17
4406v 08-Dec-17
njbuck 08-Dec-17
otcWill 08-Dec-17
EmbryO-klahoma 08-Dec-17
greenmountain 08-Dec-17
Lee 08-Dec-17
The END 08-Dec-17
trkyslr 08-Dec-17
Brotsky 08-Dec-17
M.Pauls 08-Dec-17
Bowriter 08-Dec-17
Ironbow 08-Dec-17
LTG 11 08-Dec-17
grizzlyadam 08-Dec-17
Pigsticker 08-Dec-17
bumpinblaze4x4 08-Dec-17
TwoDogs@work 08-Dec-17
Deebz 08-Dec-17
12yards 08-Dec-17
Steve Leffler 08-Dec-17
Brian M. 08-Dec-17
Bou'bound 08-Dec-17
Bowfreak 08-Dec-17
rooster 08-Dec-17
GLP 08-Dec-17
molsonarcher 08-Dec-17
greg simon 08-Dec-17
The last savage 08-Dec-17
Bigpizzaman 08-Dec-17
Muskrat 08-Dec-17
bfisherman11 08-Dec-17
hawkeye in PA 08-Dec-17
ahunter55 08-Dec-17
Ron Niziolek 08-Dec-17
160andup 08-Dec-17
grizzlyadam 08-Dec-17
buzz mc 08-Dec-17
Buffalo1 08-Dec-17
stealthycat 08-Dec-17
PAOH 08-Dec-17
BC173 08-Dec-17
SBH 08-Dec-17
Willieboat 08-Dec-17
Old School 08-Dec-17
stick slinger 08-Dec-17
Bou'bound 09-Dec-17
Rob in VT 09-Dec-17
TRADSTYK 09-Dec-17
Mitch 09-Dec-17
JasonInIowa 09-Dec-17
Jaquomo 09-Dec-17
Heritage 09-Dec-17
The Kid 09-Dec-17
Reid 09-Dec-17
David A. 10-Dec-17
november 10-Dec-17
Mark Watkins 10-Dec-17
deer_hunter68 10-Dec-17
Bou'bound 11-Dec-17
Rob Nye 11-Dec-17
jstephens61 11-Dec-17
bigswivle 11-Dec-17
deerhunter72 11-Dec-17
bowonly 11-Dec-17
MoBowhunter 11-Dec-17
Longshaft 11-Dec-17
GF 11-Dec-17
SaddleReaper 11-Dec-17
Genesis 11-Dec-17
badbull 11-Dec-17
CurveBow 11-Dec-17
x-man 11-Dec-17
Rick M 11-Dec-17
WV Mountaineer 11-Dec-17
Factory rat 11-Dec-17
patdel 11-Dec-17
Wideone 12-Dec-17
jkirkus 12-Dec-17
Stan NJ 12-Dec-17
Yttails 13-Dec-17
Ben Farmer 13-Dec-17
wackmaster2 13-Dec-17
SILVERADO 13-Dec-17
Bou'bound 14-Dec-17
Russell 14-Dec-17
jwc3 14-Dec-17
Busta'Ribs 14-Dec-17
From: Bou'bound
07-Dec-17
Did you kill the largest buck you ever shot an arrow at ?

Yes

From: Pyrannah
07-Dec-17
?

From: midwest
07-Dec-17
No :-(

07-Dec-17
Yes.

From: Michael
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: JW
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: bow shot
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: Overland
07-Dec-17
No (muzzleloader with open sights)

From: Yellowjacket
07-Dec-17
No

From: BOHUNTER09
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: HUNT MAN
07-Dec-17
Whitetail no . Mule deer , Sitka and Columbia yes. Hunt

From: ryanrc
07-Dec-17
No. Missed a decent number of good ones.

From: Zackman
07-Dec-17
Blacktail—yes Sitka—yes Coues—no Mule deer—no Whitetail—no

Guess I have some work to do

From: LBshooter
07-Dec-17
Yes

07-Dec-17
Yes

From: Mpdh
07-Dec-17
Don’t hunt deer with any other weapon, so yes.

From: Zim1
07-Dec-17
No, clean miss. But did get 2nd biggest.

From: Butcher
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: MathewsMan
07-Dec-17
Yes. Same deal about only being a bow hunter

From: Kurt
07-Dec-17
Mule deer, yes. Whitetail, no, but got #2. Sitka Blacktail, yes. Columbian Blacktail, yes. Coues deer, no but I got the other five P&Y bucks I shot at.

From: GF
07-Dec-17
Mulie.... Yep.

Whitetail.... Check.

And that’s not saying much!

From: cnelk
07-Dec-17
Antler size or body weight?

From: drycreek
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: Hawkeye
07-Dec-17
Nope..... twice:(

From: Zbone
07-Dec-17
No, no, no, and no...8^((( Never even cut a hair...

From: Buskill
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: Trial153
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: BigOk
07-Dec-17
No, I got tunnel vision and hit small sapling in front of deer that had overlooked.

07-Dec-17
No.

07-Dec-17
yes.

From: Crusader dad
07-Dec-17
No

07-Dec-17
No

From: Dirtman
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: David Geyer
07-Dec-17
No

From: MPN
07-Dec-17
WT-Yes MULIE-No LOPE-YES

From: bentshaft
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: Deertick
07-Dec-17
Yepper

From: Pigsticker
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: PECO
07-Dec-17
He is asking if you killed the biggest buck you ever shot at with a bow. Not if the biggest buck you ever shot was with a bow. My answer is yes, whitetail and mule deer.

From: kota-man
07-Dec-17
Mule Deer: Yes

Whitetail: No, bounced it off his chest.

From: elk yinzer
07-Dec-17
Yes and it was a lucky shot as I hit low in the armpit but caught an artery.

From: jsgold
07-Dec-17
NO on the first shot.....but YES when he circled back to my grunt 30 seconds later!

From: Stekewood
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: carcus
07-Dec-17
No X2

From: Don
07-Dec-17
No

From: deaver25btb
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: CAS_HNTR
07-Dec-17
Yes

07-Dec-17
Yes... but I did not kill the biggest buck that came in and I wanted to shoot an arrow at. No good shot angle presented itself. I can still hear the emphatic shouts in my head as I was at full draw. "Turn!! Just turn!! Oh, please!!! Turn!!!" He didn't turn. LMAO.

From: DRR324
07-Dec-17
Nope...

From: Bowboy
07-Dec-17
1. Mule Deer yes 2. Coues yes 3. Whitetail yes 4. Columbia Blacktail yes 5. Sitka no

From: Bowfinatic
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: Jaquomo
07-Dec-17
Yes, whitetail and muley.

From: PinePoint
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: milnrick
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: t-roy
07-Dec-17
Mulie—yes Whitetail—no. second biggest whitey—yes

From: deerslayer
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: StickFlicker
07-Dec-17
I don't think some of you are answering the question I believe he asked. As I understand the question, he's asking if you killed (or didn't kill) the largest deer you ever shot an arrow at? Has nothing to do with guns. Yes - Mule Deer Yes - Coues Deer (only two deer species I've ever shot at)

From: grizzly
07-Dec-17
no, and then he hung around and I could not get another shot.

07-Dec-17
No, several times.

From: BIG BEAR
07-Dec-17
Yes

From: RJ Hunt
07-Dec-17
Mule deer-Yes Blacktail-Yes

From: Bake
07-Dec-17
Yep on whitetails. Still a few shots I'd like a do over on though.

Nope on elk A B&C elk still haunts me. . .

From: patdel
07-Dec-17
Maybe. Hard to say. Can't measure the ones that are still running.

From: Bill Obeid
07-Dec-17
Nope.... and boy.... do I wish I could say yes

From: Nick Muche
08-Dec-17
Nope, remember it like it was yesterday. I guess that's what I get for being 14 and not remembering to aim at a broadside buck, 18 yards away.

From: Fuzz
08-Dec-17
Yessir

From: dg72a
08-Dec-17
Yes.

From: Bou'bound
08-Dec-17
I may have confused some who were thinking I was asking if your biggest harvested deer was killed with a bow as opposed to was the biggest deer you had a chance on (took shot at) with the bow a kill or not.

it's a bit tough to tally up given some of the answers being multiple yes's or no's on different species but it looks like about...................

65 out of 100 shots commented on at the biggest deer were kills so far.

if we get a lot more responses it may be interesting to see what the "success rate is on the "highest pressure" opportunities. is it similar to all opportunities success rate or different. are riskier shots taken resulting in more non-kill results? we'll see what happens as this gets more responses.

From: pav
08-Dec-17
No

From: Moons22
08-Dec-17
Never found him

From: elkmo
08-Dec-17
yes

From: Nimrod90
08-Dec-17
yes

08-Dec-17
Yes, It’s the does I have trouble with.

From: casekiska
08-Dec-17
Yes. 10-31-03. Sauk County, WI. Non-typical, very heavy palmation.

From: Pyrannah
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: longspeak74
08-Dec-17
yes

From: mattandersen
08-Dec-17
yes

From: elkstabber
08-Dec-17
Whitetail: yes Muley: no

08-Dec-17
no

From: brooktrout59
08-Dec-17
Yes last September with Charlie and Forest. Forest told me to "shoot that deer when you are ready" Luckily did not even think about it and made good shot! Biggest deerI ever shot with gun or bow.

08-Dec-17
No, didn't even touch him.................small twig saved his life...of course I didn't see it.

From: Wayniac
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: BOWNUT
08-Dec-17
Yes. But its still a small buck. I have never had the chance to miss a big one.

From: GotBowAz
08-Dec-17
Yes

08-Dec-17
Nope. Buck fever big time.

From: pointingdogs
08-Dec-17
Maybe. I have killed some big ones and missed some big ones. I actually don't remember if any one that I missed was bigger then the ones that I have killed. That's what happens when you get old.

From: dakotaduner
08-Dec-17
Nope, hit the fence post at 18 yards. Bad memory I almost forgot until now.

From: 7mm08
08-Dec-17
No,no, npe, no, nada. I can get on big ones consistently, but with a bow I fall apart. Have missed several 180"-200" bucks inside 20 yards! Yup, that's right... inside 20! But I have killed mediocre bucks at 50 yards, 35 yards, etc easily.

From: Shiras
08-Dec-17
Nope. This 25yds with my longbow.

From: splitlimb13
08-Dec-17
"Antler size or body weight?"

For real???

From: steve
08-Dec-17
no

From: Treeline
08-Dec-17
Mule deer - no. Coues - no. Whitetail - yes. Blacktail - yes.

From: Jack Harris
08-Dec-17
Nope - 2002, 170" class NJ buck (first fall I hunted my own land), I was cool as a cucumber, 17 yards, broadside, relaxed - shot sailed 6" high, right in backstraps... Two holes, ran away with arrow in him. Blood sporadic for 1/2 a mile then ran out. Saw him two weeks later breeding a doe, scab on each side, he got the arrow out. Still haunts me to this day. It was a good learning experience and made me take my equipment and in-season practice and tune-ups the norm though, because I shot that old bow later that day and it was truly 4-6" high at 20 yards and it wasn't that way when season started. Tough way to learn - but nobody to blame but me.

If the question is more of "did you kill your biggest with the bow", then yes - by far, as all 15 of my shoulder mounts are bow kills, I have never even seen a big buck with a gun in my hand worthy of mounting. Apparently I suck with a gun

From: Mr.C
08-Dec-17
nope! it was my first attempt at archery first season first deer all in 30 minutes or less...seen him coming from 110 across the beans , watched him walk across the field! I drew the bow way to soon and he caught me so I held and held then started shaking, he began walking again on the same path and I knew I couldn't hold much longer ,he got to the spot I wanted I chirped he stopped in his tracks, and right then it hit me how far his he! I didn't range anything (rookie mistake) so I guessed 30 and let it rip as I watched the arrow go over his back lol I ranged it later it was 18 yards! good whitetail 4x4 buck to, ill never forget that buck he taught me a lot lol MikeC

08-Dec-17
WT yes, Coues yes, Mule Deer no, Sitka BT no

From: FlatLndr
08-Dec-17
No shot right under him 160 class

From: LINK
08-Dec-17
No, misjudged yardage on a 170 class 10 that I decoyed into my ladder stand on an irrigation pivot.lol

From: APauls
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: Rock
08-Dec-17
Mule deer, no Whitetail, no Sitka Blacktail, no Coues deer, no

From: IowaHawkeye
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: BoonROTO
08-Dec-17
No and Yes

From: 4406v
08-Dec-17
YES : ) and the second biggest on the 2nd shot : )

From: njbuck
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: otcWill
08-Dec-17
No. I was 12 and he was the 3rd deer I missed that morning :). Love me some bowhuntn!

08-Dec-17
Yes, WT

08-Dec-17
Yes, but I shared him with coyotes. I shot him with about 1/2 hour of daylight so I left the area and gathered my lantern and flashlights. I "knew" where he was but I was mistaken. After three hours of looking well after dark I went home waiting for daylight. I found most of him 15 minutes after daylight. I had been within feet of him several times in the dark.

From: Lee
08-Dec-17
NO

From: The END
08-Dec-17
Sadly, no.

From: trkyslr
08-Dec-17
Yes!

From: Brotsky
08-Dec-17
Yes....and I hope to say yes several more times in the coming years! :)

From: M.Pauls
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: Bowriter
08-Dec-17
Mule deer-yes Whitetail-no

From: Ironbow
08-Dec-17
yes

From: LTG 11
08-Dec-17
yes

From: grizzlyadam
08-Dec-17
yes

From: Pigsticker
08-Dec-17
Yes WT, Cut hair on mule deer and killed on second shot, and yes on Coues.

08-Dec-17
Yes. 186"

From: TwoDogs@work
08-Dec-17
No, but I killed the three inch sapling that was between me and part of his heart/ lung area. I told myself an inch behind the sapling.

From: Deebz
08-Dec-17
I missed the first giant buck I ever shot at...I was 14 in a homemade wooden platform stand that my dad and brother and I built together. Literally the first time I ever hunted by myself I watched a monster 8 and a huge 10 spar in the bottom of the ravine behind me. The 8 came up my way after they were done, so I drew just before he stepped out from behind the bush...then he turned the other way...I managed to get the bow around the tree to the other side at full draw without spooking him, but then shot right over his back...he danced around just out of range for another 15 minutes trying to figure out what was going on...I've killed a few nice bucks with my bow in the years since, but that encounter is one of the most vivid hunting memories I have.

From: 12yards
08-Dec-17
Yes. In fact it's the biggest whitetail I've ever seen. And he now graces my wall.

08-Dec-17
Yes

From: Brian M.
08-Dec-17
No.

From: Bou'bound
08-Dec-17
101 out of 160 so far

63%

consistent ratio to the first 100 responses

From: Bowfreak
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: rooster
08-Dec-17
yep!

From: GLP
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: molsonarcher
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: greg simon
08-Dec-17
Whitetail -- Yes

Mule Deer -- Yes

08-Dec-17
No ..

From: Bigpizzaman
08-Dec-17
4 of the 5 species yes Damn Whitetails drive me nuts!!!

From: Muskrat
08-Dec-17
No! An unseen vine deflected my arrow into the ground at his feet, and he left.

From: bfisherman11
08-Dec-17
Yes and yes... Ha-Twice, both my top 2 deer were bow kills.

08-Dec-17
Yes

From: ahunter55
08-Dec-17

ahunter55's embedded Photo
ahunter55's embedded Photo
Whitetail-I wish about 10 times & I passed this guy. Mule Deer, never cared but ONE.

From: Ron Niziolek
08-Dec-17
Yes to mule deer, Sitka and whitetail.

From: 160andup
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: grizzlyadam
08-Dec-17
I answered yes, but thinking on it a bit I think maybe would have been a better answer. There were a couple I drew blood on but didn't put down that may have been bigger. Cant weigh or measure the ones that got away.

Define "biggest". You mean body weight, rack score?

From: buzz mc
08-Dec-17
Yes, but I missed him with the arrow and killed him a month later with a muzzleloader.

From: Buffalo1
08-Dec-17
no

From: stealthycat
08-Dec-17
no

From: PAOH
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: BC173
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: SBH
08-Dec-17
Yes

From: Willieboat
08-Dec-17
Nope....mid 160 class blacktail at 24 yards....mental fricking melt down :(

From: Old School
08-Dec-17
WT - Yes

Mulie - Yes

08-Dec-17
Yes

From: Bou'bound
09-Dec-17
123 out of 190

65% still

From: Rob in VT
09-Dec-17
Yes

From: TRADSTYK
09-Dec-17
Yes

From: Mitch
09-Dec-17
Yes

From: JasonInIowa
09-Dec-17
Yes......2nd and 3rd NOPE!

From: Jaquomo
09-Dec-17
Mine is a "yes" for bear, elk, QL caribou and free range red stag, as well.

From: Heritage
09-Dec-17
Sadly, no.

From: The Kid
09-Dec-17
Yes

From: Reid
09-Dec-17
Yes

From: David A.
10-Dec-17
WT: yes MD: no

From: november
10-Dec-17
WT yes. MD yes. Elk yes bear no. Antelope no no and no

From: Mark Watkins
10-Dec-17
WT- yes.

Mulie-yes

Mark

10-Dec-17
Yes

From: Bou'bound
11-Dec-17
135 for 205

66%

From: Rob Nye
11-Dec-17
No

From: jstephens61
11-Dec-17
No, and thanks for bringing it back up.

From: bigswivle
11-Dec-17
Biggest whitetail yes. If I could hang the mounts of the deer I've screwed up on I'd need a trophy room. Add three days ago in Illinois to the list of the deer I screwed up on.

From: deerhunter72
11-Dec-17
No. I have several bow/gun WT in the same range, but I haven't broken the 160" mark with either yet. You never forget the truly big antlered deer you miss no matter what weapon you have in your hands.

From: bowonly
11-Dec-17
No

From: MoBowhunter
11-Dec-17
No, missed a mid 160's last year.

From: Longshaft
11-Dec-17
Mule deer and Whitetail yes

From: GF
11-Dec-17
Oh, yeah - Elk. Nope.

He was walking, I was swinging, and my lead sent the arrow off the side of a lodgepole. Just one stinking blade & just one tiny bit of contact out there on the end. But it was enough.

And FWIW, I think you’re really not getting a representative sample. Especially now that you’ve let on as to your expectations.

11-Dec-17

Habitat for Wildlife's embedded Photo
Habitat for Wildlife's embedded Photo
Yes again, responding to biggest I have shot at.

From: SaddleReaper
11-Dec-17
No...2 times, both would have been my largest whitetail.

From: Genesis
11-Dec-17
yes

From: badbull
11-Dec-17
No........(elk - yes)

From: CurveBow
11-Dec-17
Yes I did. 130" whitetail. :)

From: x-man
11-Dec-17
Yes

From: Rick M
11-Dec-17
Yes twice. Elk as well. Blew a shot on my biggest moose. Missed a few over the years that I wish I had back.

11-Dec-17

 WV Mountaineer's embedded Photo
 WV Mountaineer's embedded Photo
This ones for you scoot. The ole Forrest Whittaker eye. lol

11-Dec-17
No 15 yards it still haunts me

From: patdel
11-Dec-17
Ground hunter....he must have left a mark.

From: Wideone
12-Dec-17
WT - yes Antelope - uh no

From: jkirkus
12-Dec-17
Yes, 8 yards almost directly below me

From: Stan NJ
12-Dec-17
Yes

Too bad you didn't ask for a picture with it...could have been epic

From: Yttails
13-Dec-17
Yes

From: Ben Farmer
13-Dec-17
Maybe. Hit one high and lost him that was pretty close. Don't know which was bigger

From: wackmaster2
13-Dec-17
yes.

From: SILVERADO
13-Dec-17
Yes

From: Bou'bound
14-Dec-17
150 for 231

65%

From: Russell
14-Dec-17
No

1978: Using a recurve standing on a Baker Treestand in early November. Missed a mature upstate NY buck twice. First time as he trotted by 20 some yards away. Second time when he stopped broadside and looked the other way. Never picked a spot. After my second shot, he looked at me and trotted off.

At that range, I could hit a leaf every time, but completely missed a 200 lb deer.

From: jwc3
14-Dec-17
Yes

From: Busta'Ribs
14-Dec-17
Oh Hell No! I have missed/wounded or simply effed up at least a dozen shot opportunities on 160 plus whitetails. It could be even more! I spent most of the 1990's hunting with Jim Hole in the legendary Edmonton Alberta Bowzone, anywhere from 1-3 weeks every November. And all I did was screw up over and over again. I eventually gave up and quit hunting there (or maybe Jim threw me out of camp). I've had some success bowhunting a few other species since then, but big whitetails are, and perhaps always will be my nemesis. Thanks for reminding me, by the way!

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