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Hunting in Hawaii - A Huntymoon
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yooper89 07-Mar-18
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Steve H. 07-Mar-18
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APauls 08-Mar-18
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From: yooper89
07-Mar-18

From: smarba
07-Mar-18
Too busy honeymooning to report on the huntymoon?!

From: yooper89
07-Mar-18
It looks like I accidentally cleared the message. Dang it.

I am looking to do a hunt in Hawaii in early August on my honeymoon. It looks like I'll be hunting goats/pigs since Axis is off the table. Was hoping somebody on Bowsite has done a similar hunt and could share their experience.

From: StickFlicker
07-Mar-18
Just to be clear, why is Axis off the table?

07-Mar-18
"On the table" is the absolute best location for axis venison...!

From: Dyjack
07-Mar-18
I'm curious about axis too, that'd be the one thing I'd want to hunt.

From: Steve H.
07-Mar-18
Yes, on Kauai, early 2008.

From: Steve H.
07-Mar-18
Here is a write-up of a couple trips I did leading up to my Huntymoon. Putting the wife on a helicopter to fly over where you are hunting might help make the case--if you need to make the case. FYI, the quality hunting that could be had just a decade ago on the NaPali Coast is in the rear view mirror after several episodes of bringing in the guns to reduce the goat population.

Feature 1: Alive on Kauai

The Real-Life Story of How Matt Schuster Saved My Life

By: Steve Hohensee

Hawaii may sound like an out of reach exotic destination to many bowhunters but the reality is that the islands are a common destination for many Alaskans looking for a break from the darkness of winter and the islands are easier to access for us than many parts of the United States. I figured this fact out soon after moving North and have averaged about one trip every other year to the Aloha State during the 21st century.

Having a budget-minded upbringing, I have come up with a few great Hawaiian hunting trips that can be done on a dime. When my buddy Matt “Shoeman” Schuster learned that I was hunting Hawaii on the cheap he was quick to finagle an invitation or two as he could hunt a new destination and keep his reputation for the frugal intact.

Matt first joined me on the Big Island immediately prior to the 2006 Salt Lake City PBS Gathering. We hunted with some local guys that refer to each other as “Bruddahs”, that I had met on my first Hawaiian trip and we filled the freezer with many feral goats and sheep, a hog, and a pheasant. Perhaps Matt can be coerced by one of our member-friends to write about that trip in one of his six days off during his work week.

Anyhow, I first met Matt at the 1996 PBS Gathering in Charlotte, NC and I have to admit that he did invite me down to Georgia to pig hunt several times and was with me when I killed my first hog that wouldn’t completely fit in just one crock-pot. I believe Matt thought I owed him.

One particularly memorable trip Matt had invited me down to hunt hogs on the infamous, traditional only hunting club, "The Paradise" in South Georgia. Matt had gone out of his way extra far one night and broke his comfort zone, cooking more than his signature can of soup, a nice venison back-strap. As we dined I looked up to see Matt in the middle of choking to death on a chunk of meat, literally. I quickly administered the Heimlich maneuver, saving his life and the rest of the hunt. Forever after I always enjoyed reminding Matt that I had saved his life and that he probably owed me.

I planned my first visit to Kauai in July 2007 because my home, Juneau, had experienced a particularly rough winter and I needed a break, or maybe it was just because I wanted to go hunting and I had been wanting to hunt the NaPali Coast for years. If anyone is wanting to hunt Kauai, I suggest you get a copy of the August/September, 2008 issue of “Traditional Bowhunter Magazine” in which I published a piece in the “Traditional Destinations” column. All of the details of how to pull off a trip to Kauai are in that issue. My original story that I submitted was too long for that particular column so some of the parts hit the copy room floor. I decided I would share one particular tale in more detail with my extended PBS family so that Matt can receive full credit for his quick thinking and Chuck Norris–like, life-saving actions. So here it is and I swear it happened exactly as told; sometimes the truth is so bizarre to not need any embellishment!

Matt and I drove up Waimea Canyon prior to hunting the NaPali Coast later in the week. We arrived at the upper end of the canyon on a Saturday morning and played spectator for a few minutes, secretly checking out our vertically challenging hunting area up the canyon, from the confines of a popular lookout with its cement walkway and walls to protect the tourists from harm. Matt in his classic-style arrowed a small billy that first day. The next morning we were back on the hunt in the canyon but we were a bit sluggish, like lizards on ice, from the previous evening’s beyond-anticipated, chilly mountain air. Mid-morning found us searching out a nap spot in a grove of trees on a steep hillside.

We lazed away time under the warm tropical sun, both of us leaning back against the hillside with our feet propped up on trees to keep us from sliding down into the gulch. A sound on the slopes above caught Matt's attention and he excitedly exclaimed "goats" and then screamed "LOOK OUT" as I heard something unknown rapidly approaching.

I rolled and turned to look as a softball-sized rock, dislodged by the goats, rocketed past the exact spot where my head had been moments before. I felt like Piggy didn't get the chance to feel in William Golding's "Lord of the Flies", from the narrow miss.

That rock came into perfect focus right in front of my eyes when I turned to look and I am sure it would have cracked my skull wide open had Matt not have warned me. Matt had repaid me for saving his life by saving mine with his quick reaction. I quickly nocked an arrow and proceeded to miss the goat that tried to kill me with that rock. We were even (double entendre intended).

Matt and I had a grand adventure along the cliffs of the NaPali later in the week stalking goats, one more time, searching for the opportunity to smugly remind the other that their life is probably owed!

Feature 2: Huntymoon

One Man’s Dream Honeymoon

How perfect is it for a bowhunter to have a wife that would say “it would suck if you went all the way to Kauai and couldn’t go hunting”? How great would it be if she said it on their honeymoon trip! Well it was great and that is exactly what my newlywed wife Donnie said to me before our upcoming trip to Kauai last December and that is just one of the many reasons why I married her!

A typhoon had just hit Kauai prior to our arrival but we were lucky because the storm had departed our chosen island, the first in the Hawaiian-chain, and was headed for the remaining islands. Donnie and I drove around on the island and enjoyed the scenery and just hanging out for the first several days. We toured the Kauai Coffee plantation and I swear their Peaberry is the single best coffee I have ever tasted.

Later in the week Donnie dropped me off at the end of the road for a couple days. I loaded up my daypack with a bit of grub; my hammock; and my signature on islands hunts, arrows countable by the dozens. The goats are overpopulated creating a target-rich environment, and do major floral damage. I had come to “Save the Plants”.

The weather was a lot cooler and rainier than the care-free days of July when Matt and I had hunted the NaPali but warm enough to hunt in shorts and a T-shirt. I had just started getting into the core area where there is fantastic goat hunting and crossed paths with a small sounder of hogs when it was time to stretch my hammock for the night. I woke to bleating goats the following morning but they escaped unscathed so I hiked down the trail beyond where Matt had made a phenomenal heart shot back in July on a nice billy, at a range beyond an above-average archer’s ability. More bleating goats and I soon was within striking distance; running an arrow from end to end thru a brown billy. I slid over baseball-sized lava rock on an almost-treacherous slope to the downed goat and glanced down at the bright metallic tungsten carbide band on my finger, at my newly found good luck charm!

Each time during the day when one of the many helicopters flew overhead, I would look up and wonder if Donnie was on board. I told her she had to fly over the coast and see it from above while I was stalking through Kauai’s infamous red dirt down below. The hunting is always good on the Coast and this trip was no different. Right at last light I slipped in on the prettiest hog I had ever seen, red with perfectly circular black spots, each about four inches in diameter. I had just donned a rain jacket during the last deluge and my bowstring caught the sleeve. The day had offered me many previous opportunities and let’s just say that I saved many plants that day and had the honeymoon many men dream of, a HUNTYMOON!

Note: Donnie wishes to publicly thank Matt Schuster for saving her husbands life

From: yooper89
07-Mar-18

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StickFlicker - if I read the attached regs correctly, I saw the season being "8 consecutive days" from Feb 17 - Feb 24. on Lanai. Some of the other islands don't even have them listed. Maybe I'm reading the regs wrong, which I hope is the case, but I'm not sure. I plan to call one of the Dep. of Forestry & Wildlife offices for a little more clarity.

From: Steve H.
07-Mar-18
Yoop, I've hunted Lanai' too. What you are seeing is ONLY for the State sanctioned hunt. There are other options. One of the most knowledgeable about Lanai' is the bruddah "TD" here at Bowsite.

There are no goats (maybe an extremely limited few) or pigs on Lanai'.

From: yooper89
07-Mar-18
Thanks Steve. It appears I've got a bit more research to do. For now I'm planning on sticking to goats and pigs, and sheep if possible. I'll try to reach out to TD and see if he's able to help.

People helping people is exactly why I love this site.

07-Mar-18

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Big island, Nahele outfitters will look after you. going back in a couple days.

From: yooper89
07-Mar-18
Thanks Skinner. I'm going to try to keep it DIY. I anticipate the vacation itself will be expensive enough.

On the bright side, I'm coming to understand there are more opportunities than I first thought. Starting to really look forward to the trip!

From: Steve H.
07-Mar-18
Ok, I now see early August. Which island are you intending to go to or still open for recommendations?

From: yooper89
07-Mar-18
Always open to recommendations. I've never visited Hawaii, so I'm going to research as best I can. Fiancé doesn't seem to be too picky either. She just wants some beach time.

From: Steve H.
07-Mar-18
Oahu: BIG city, congestion, people almost everywhere Hawaii: Big enough to get a mix of city and country Maui: Lots of "stuff" going on Kauai: A good mix of urban and countryside Molokai: You better thrive on entertaining yourself and cooking your own meals Lanai: very limited opportunity including lodging and rentals, best accessed from Maui (just a broad brush stroke of approximations from my perspective and I acknowledge there are exceptions)

From: JTreeman
07-Mar-18
I’ve been to Kauai, Hawaii, Maui, and Ohau. Hunted Maui, Hawaii, and Kauai. All fun, but yes, it can get expensive, especially when coupling it with the little ladies desires ;)

My personal favorite is Kauai by a good margin, second place would be The Big Island. I would love to do Lanai for hunting as well. I don’t have any interest to ever return to Ohau.

I throughly enjoyed the NaPali coast trail hunting for both goats and pigs, but as Steve states, I’ve heard it isn’t what it once was. Good luck, hard to go wrong!

—jim

From: yooper89
07-Mar-18
This is great info guys. I really appreciate it!

From: Steve H.
07-Mar-18
It seems like the beaches were quite limited on the Big Island. If mixing beaches in matters I would probably pick between Kauai, Maui, and maybe Molokai if you don't need any catering. Lanai is just so limited its kind of a specialty destination. That said, I've got a contact for you on Molokai if you need local assistance including finding a rental house, a guided day hunt or boat taxi including visiting the sea cliffs, diving, etc.

From: TD
07-Mar-18
The mammal hunting for the most part in HI is year round, no tags, either sex, no limit. The mammals are considered invasive species. The only real " seasons" are the State draw hunts on Lanai, archery is one week axis deer, one week mouflon sheep. Rifle/black powder draws are a series of assigned weekends, you go for whichever weekend you draw. If I recall there was a season for blacktails on Kauai, but check the regs on that, I've never hunted Kauai. Otherwise it's pretty much open season 365, any weapon. All you need is a hunting license.

Mostly depends on the island what you are hunting, they are all very different. Oahu.... I know little about and never hunted there. It's WAY too urban for me. Too many people. Big Isle and Kauai have the most public land to hunt. Pigs and goats on them both, couple species of sheep also on the Big Isle and limited blacktail deer in spots on Kauai.

Maui county (Maui, Molokai, Lanai) has the axis deer. Maui/Molokai have goats and pigs too (Molokai a few other odd things like blackbuck, but pretty rare. Almost got one there once though.) Lanai has mouflon sheep to go with the axis, no pigs and they claim no goats but I killed one a few years ago, only goats I've ever seen there and had to argue with DLNR about that too. But I had pics.

Problem with Maui and Molokai is very little public land to hunt. Pretty much have to have access to private one way or another. Lanai has a good deal of "public-private" archery only that you can buy a permit for, good for a year, deer or mouflon, either sex, no limit. (last one I got was $60-65 if i recall) Have to hunt in certain areas but it can be a good hunt. I used to go over a good deal more than I do now and always bought the annual private tag. They also have "private-private" areas set aside to hunt but that's a guided hunt only. It's an awesome hunt though. Lanai accommodations and logistics can get tricky, but there are folks in Lanai City that rent out "rooms/beds" and private vehicles. Only legal camping (with the exception of fishing camps) is on the beach down at Manele. By permit only. You want to stay at a hotel..... I was told this last trip that the newly remodeled rooms at the Manele Bay start at $1800 per night... and I don't think you can hang a deer off the balcony either.....

Whatever island you pick, send me a PM.

From: PAstringking
07-Mar-18

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My huntingmoon from Maui. Amazing trip and would go again in a heartbeat

From: PAstringking
07-Mar-18

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Same trip

From: MeanMachine
08-Mar-18
Nice buck and billy.

From: 808bowhunter
08-Mar-18
Kauai has some good opportunities. Napali is not what is used to be but if didn't experience it before, you would never know. Still can be fun and still has trophies, just not around every turn. I run a archery hog operation here and there are a ton of them. Happy to help if Kauai is your choice.

08-Mar-18
Maui axis deer is next on my list! A bonus is that my wife treats it like a honeymoon every time we go ;) even though its been 18 yrs since the first one

08-Mar-18
Hey kodi I have a hunt planned with you guys at the end of the month. Really looking forward to it.

From: DonVathome
08-Mar-18
My sister lives in Honolulu (Oahu island). I am planning to go see her in the next year or two. What is a realistic expectation if I hunted Oahu? Cost for a flight to a nearby island for better hunting? Ideas?

From: APauls
08-Mar-18
I hunted Kauai

Here's some video from the hunt. Super interesting island. Wettest place on earth in the center with a desert right beside it. Only has goats and pigs on it I believe. Saw one pig one day while driving - tons of beaches and places to surf if that's your fancy. I just wouldn't get accomodations at one end of the highway. We were right at the NE side of the island. So then if we wanted to see Waimea for example you need to drive literally around the island. We spent a week on Oahu and a week on Kauai and really loved the mix of both islands. They are different but awesome in their own ways. Hawaii is the best vacation I've ever done. As far as "couple holidays I've only been to Hawaii once and Cuba once.

From: GotBowAz
08-Mar-18
Apuals, great video capturing your hunt, that was pretty awesome. One thing to note, thanks a LOT for making my stomach do flips when you were standing the edge of that cliff over looking the ocean! LOL Looked like a really fun hunt!

From: LINK
08-Mar-18
There’s only one specie I’d be penetrating on my honeymoon. ;) I do however applaud you guys for laying down the law on day 1.

From: Kdog
08-Mar-18
Great video Apauls. I am glad you took the camera with you so I got to see it. I promise you I would never climb up there! We went to Maui last summer and I found driving the road to Hana and driving up to the top of the volcano to be all I could handle when it comes to heights.

From: Steve H.
08-Mar-18
DV: Island hopping is your friend.

From: yooper89
08-Mar-18
Link, time is money. Get in, get out and get back to hunting!

Thanks everybody for chiming in. The information has been tremendous. Really looking forward to August.

From: LINK
08-Mar-18
Lol Yooper. I remember those days. After you’ve been married a few years you’ll learn to slow up and enjoy it while you have the opportunity. ;) Have a fun trip.

From: 808bowhunter
08-Mar-18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXaKTUv1zXI This might get you excited. Mostly Kauai. Factory Rat, I was hoping I would get a bowsiter to come hunt with us one day! I will make sure I got some good action ready for you!

From: 808bowhunter
08-Mar-18

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From: APauls
08-Mar-18
Thanks guys. I remember when I was getting ready to go there scouring the internet for videos and there weren't many at the time. I was lucky enough to get in touch with a local that you see there. He took me to an area he has seen goats in the past. We started at 4am, and he continued on to go hiking and camping elsewhere. He was going to stay with me until noon, but in the end we heard goats and he hung around until 1 which was really awesome as he videotaped the shots. Hindsight is 20/20 I'm sure I could have waited for a better shot, but you know how it goes. Diced him up and packed him out and got back to the parking area around 8pm. Such an awesome, full day. Them are some steep hills.

From: yooper89
09-Oct-18
Well, ended up being a little later than planned but we’re headed to Kauai in January. Na Pali Coast, here I come!

From: 808bowhunter
10-Oct-18
Hunting should be good out there with it being closed so long. Hopefully it is open in January! never know with this state

From: yooper89
10-Oct-18
808 I read closures through November so I’m hopeful it’ll change by January. I’ll bring my bow either way and hope for the best!

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