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Contributors to this thread:
BULELK1 28-Mar-18
LesWelch 28-Mar-18
patdel 28-Mar-18
LesWelch 28-Mar-18
midwest 28-Mar-18
LONEBULL 28-Mar-18
LesWelch 28-Mar-18
Z Barebow 28-Mar-18
Shrewski 28-Mar-18
midwest 28-Mar-18
Z Barebow 28-Mar-18
Teeton 28-Mar-18
midwest 28-Mar-18
Shrewski 29-Mar-18
BULELK1 29-Mar-18
Bowboy 29-Mar-18
Trophyseeker 29-Mar-18
Teeton 29-Mar-18
Shrewski 29-Mar-18
midwest 29-Mar-18
sticksender 29-Mar-18
JL 29-Mar-18
LONEBULL 29-Mar-18
sticksender 29-Mar-18
From: BULELK1
28-Mar-18

BULELK1's Link
With the yearly $50 a chance for the elk tag raffle being kinda screwy this year--------->

This is just a reminder to at least renew or get your BOW Membership up to date.

Thanks

Good luck, Robb

From: LesWelch
28-Mar-18
I've been waiting for that thread, did I miss it?

From: patdel
28-Mar-18
Les, I think one guy bought them all. There's a thread floating around somewhere.

From: LesWelch
28-Mar-18
Interesting. I wondered why someone with money never did that.......

From: midwest
28-Mar-18
Les, A few got sold before. Praying one of those are the winner!

Proud member of BOW.

From: LONEBULL
28-Mar-18
Thanks Robb for the plug!!!! We didn't like how it went down this year as well. All the tickets did get sold to one person that's the fact (no one bought any before hand). Next year (if we are granted a tag) people will be limited to 10 tickets per transaction. Not saying someone couldn't do it again, just can't buy all at once. I'm not sure I like this much better but others on executive council didn't want to not sale tickets (we don't sell out every year) by setting limits on sales, after all this is to raise $ for projects. As a voting member of executive council I probably wouldn't have voted for this but was unable to attend because of work obligations. I will try to do a much better job of getting this on Bowsite next year. I was in the process this year when I got the e-mail stating it was over already so for that I'm sorry. For those interested the money was used this year on 7 projects. A water guzzler project in Northern Wyoming, A juniper removal in the Casper region, a water project in the Rawlins area, a water project in the Pinedale region, 2 Mule deer research projects with the University of Wyoming and a donation to Access Yes. Thank you for your support. Jeff Capron

From: LesWelch
28-Mar-18
Thanks for the clarification Jeff. Yes, it's not ideal from a variety standpoint, and I don't like it either. That said, it was legit, and the money goes for a good cause so it really wasn't the worst thing in the world.

From: Z Barebow
28-Mar-18
Proud member of BOW also. I will keep supporting them. Thanks for link Robb. I re-upped.

From: Shrewski
28-Mar-18
Solved the renewal problem a few years ago with a life membership. As I have a little extra in the hunting fund I’ve beeb trying to do that with all the hunting/conservation organizations I am a member of. BOW is a great one to do that with.

From: midwest
28-Mar-18
Dang....that's twice I've been wrong this week! Going to lose all my Bowsite credibility. :-(

From: Z Barebow
28-Mar-18
Don't worry Nick, Bowsite is like family. We won't hold it against you. (We will never forget though!) LOL!

From: Teeton
28-Mar-18
I'm a member and think at least the first week or so the members should get first shot at the tickets then after a date members can start selling to non members. I know that if he got all the tickets it is money for the BOW.. But I also think it will make it harder for BOW to get these tags if it keeps going like this year. Not sure I like the 10 tickets per transaction,, no more than ten a day for the first week or two. At least that gives everyone a chance at tickets. Someone can away's have 4 or 5 friends try to buy the tickets all at the same time for them and end up with 80 or 90% of the tickets

Can I ask how many tickets got sold? Please pm me the answer.. Respectfully Ed R

From: midwest
28-Mar-18
They sell 300 or 350.

One of those has to be right!

From: Shrewski
29-Mar-18
It has been 300 from all I can remember.

From: BULELK1
29-Mar-18
No worries Nick!!

'Aint' none of us perfect--------->

#LovinLife

Robb

From: Bowboy
29-Mar-18
It's 300.

From: Trophyseeker
29-Mar-18
My suggestion would be to not limit the amount of tickets sold vs limit the amount someone can buy. If someone wants to buy 300 let them. Sell another 300 to anyone else who wants a chance. The $$ raised goes toward a great cause.. so lets not cap its potential.. Just my opinion.

From: Teeton
29-Mar-18
I have to agree with Troplyseeker, to the point of not having BOW loose any chances of not get a tag to chance off . Ed

From: Shrewski
29-Mar-18
Very early in the process I emailed BOW to see when tickets were available. They told me of the sell out and they were trying to get another tag. I would think their conservation efforts should have taken priority over the little league team that Eastman’s was advertising one of the tags benefiting.

The good thing about the BOW situation is all the tickets sold. The bad THINGS are these give us the common man a chance and a rich man’s tag and that was taken away AND an anti hunting organization could get their hands on it.

I’m glad BOW sold out, I’m bummed I did not get my chance.

Good luck safeguarding that tag for us dreamers BOW...and thanks for trying.

From: midwest
29-Mar-18
An unlimited number of tickets at $50 each are probably not going to sell very well.

From: sticksender
29-Mar-18
For you guys who say you are bummed.....the state of Wyoming handed out 56 of these licenses this year to be raffled off and auctioned off.

So if you missed this one, there are dozens more you can try for. Details here:

https://wgfd.wyo.gov/commlicenses/commissionlicense.aspx?year=2018

From: JL
29-Mar-18
I do not have a dog in this fight. IMO.....one of the attractive things about limited raffle tickets is you have realistic odds of getting drawn and diverse folks like that and are more willing to buy one. If the odds shrink, so does the diversity of folks who would consider getting one. Just the loyal or vested interest folks would then buy one.

A possible way to address moving the 300 tickets and still allow many folks a chance to get one is limit the purchase to 5 or 10 tickets up to a certain date. After that date, if there are any leftover tickets, drop the limit on the number of tickets purchased. That would afford many an opportunity for a ticket and still allow someone(s) with deep pockets to buy the leftovers.

From: LONEBULL
29-Mar-18
Unlimited tickets don't sell very well. Heck we tried 350 tickets 2 years ago and heard many complaints and didn't sell as many as when we set it at 300. For some history these tags usually sell for between $12,000-$17,000 at auction. We feel selling them for $50.00 and keeping it at 300 does what we want. Makes the money that we would normally make on average ($15,000) and gives the normal guy (except this year) a chance to win one instead of just selling it to the highest bidder (guys with big pockets). By rule we can't limit it to just BOW members even for a week or two. Shrewski I wish you were right and that more of the Commissioners would see the benefit. We had many worthwhile projects that we just couldn't fund. It's politics at it's finest let me tell you. Thanks again everyone.

From: sticksender
29-Mar-18
I'd be curious to inquire with the coordinators of some of the other raffles that sell tickets at 100.00 each with a limit of 500 tickets, how they are doing on sales? You'd think they must be doing OK, if they continue running it that way. Most likely they don't sell out, keeping the odds reasonable. And also this prevents anyone from wanting to buy all the tickets, since they can buy the license at any of the multiple auctions for way less than 50k.

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