Another "What is it?" thread
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From: stick n string
30-May-18
Zoomed in pic
Zoomed in pic
Got these two pictures a couple weeks ago. Black coyote? Looked a little foxish like to me, but anybody ever heard or seen of a black phase red fox? South central PA. What says ye?
From: stick n string
30-May-18
That grass is probably 6-8" tall at that point
From: Bake
30-May-18
Red foxes for sure have black phases. I was thinking a cross fox myself.
Google it
From: Brotsky
30-May-18
Melanistic red fox.
From: JTV
30-May-18
Yep, Red Fox/Silver/Cross fox/Melanistic phase
From: Kodiak
30-May-18
I think it's a yote.
The muzzle and tail lead me to that opinion.
From: Teeton
30-May-18
If the grass in 6/8 tall that puts this guy at 16 at the shoulder, head a 20. Fur looks very long for a fox. Muzzle looks a little bit thick for a fox. So my guess (only guess) young coyote. Ed
From: tradi-doerr
30-May-18
Red fox in silver phase (black fox) use to trap them all the time here in Colorado, till they banned most methods of trapping.
From: Rut Nut
30-May-18
I was thinking young coyote too Ed!
From: TrapperKayak
30-May-18
Looks just like that 'thing' that was shot in Montana. Big ears, overbite, same ugly coat, long pointy snout, bushy tail. Looks like a dogote or coydog. It honestly looks too big to be a fox.
From: Dyjack
30-May-18
First thought was coyote from size. But it does look like a big ass melanistic fox. Maybe it's a chupacabra
From: elk yinzer
30-May-18
Coyote possibly with some Canis Familiaris bloodlines.
From: BullBuster
30-May-18
UGLY. shoot it
From: BigOzzie
30-May-18
first look says fox after reading you guys have me doubting myself.
oz
From: elkstabber
30-May-18
Ugh. Coyotes are highly variable in the east. The coat (especially on the rear) looks a little too thick to be a red fox. The tail looks a little too short to be a red fox. Foxes tend to be very similar, while coyotes can vary tremendously, even within one pack. That critter just barely tips the scale toward coyote, in my opinion. My opinion could also be wrong because I've never killed a fox or a coyote in PA.
If you really want to know ask a local trapper. They will know the color tendencies of the local foxes and coyotes.
From: BullBuster
30-May-18
How about this one?
From: Kodiak
30-May-18
That's a fisher.
From: Altizer
30-May-18
R.O.U.S.
Watch for giants.
From: WV Mountaineer
30-May-18
Coyote
From: Boreal
30-May-18
First picture - coyote Second picture - gray fox
From: Bou'bound
30-May-18
UFO Unidentified Fleeing Object
From: Pete In Fairbanks
30-May-18
Head and body shape (and length of legs) is wrong for a fox. I would say it is a melanistic coyote (fairly common in the East where they have a lot of domestic dog blood in them.)
Bullbusters photo appears to be a pine marten rather than a fisher to me. I'm not a fisher expert, but I know a thing or two about marten. (I have caught and skinned thousands of them.) A fishers tail is normally a bit more pointed; marten tails generally appear "fluffy and more circular" all the way to the end."
Pete
From: TrapperKayak
30-May-18
I also thought martin on 2nd pic.
From: IdyllwildArcher
30-May-18
I think the first picture is a fox. Second picture looks like the weasel family - martin or fisher.
From: BullBuster
30-May-18
I thought it was a pine martin but the local trappers tell me it is a fisher.
From: kota-man
30-May-18
I'm going with a Young Dark Coyote in pic #1 and a Fischer in pic #2.
From: Junior
30-May-18
From: Junior
30-May-18
This one was a rare sight for me. Got him 2 years ago, Eastern Shore of Maryland while bow hunting Sika deer.
From: Duke
30-May-18
Animal #1: Fox; Animal #2: Pine Martin
From: JTV
30-May-18
Marten
Marten
thats a Marten, that aint a Fisher ... Fishers are chunkier, and much darker ... Fishers dont have a dark tip on their tail nor a big light colored patch under the chin .. Martens do ..
From: JTV
30-May-18
From: JTV
30-May-18
Fisher ..
Fisher ..
From: TrapperKayak
31-May-18
I think its a martin, but not all fishers are all dark. I've seen a few with a more buff colored head and shoulders mixed with a darker back end.
From: elkstabber
31-May-18
Junior - is that a dark phase of Red Fox that you killed in Maryland?
From: Tonybear61
31-May-18
Old quote from a story: Sigrud Olson I think
The squirrel is supposedly the world's best acrobat, but the marten can catch the squirrel and the fisher can catch the marten...
From: BullBuster
31-May-18
Light colored fisher. The one above is awefully large for a Martin. The mineral lick to the left is 20-22” wide.
From: BullBuster
31-May-18
I mean original pic is near mineral lick
From: Junior
31-May-18
Its a dark phase coyote. Have been 3 black ones on trail camera at the lease. It seems most in that area have darker coats, if not black. That one weighed nearly 55 lbs.
From: Ole Coyote
31-May-18
That is my uncle Rays kid his mother was from Africa, lol! Stay well!!
