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Got these two pictures a couple weeks ago. Black coyote? Looked a little foxish like to me, but anybody ever heard or seen of a black phase red fox? South central PA. What says ye?
That grass is probably 6-8" tall at that point
Red foxes for sure have black phases. I was thinking a cross fox myself.
Yep, Red Fox/Silver/Cross fox/Melanistic phase
I think it's a yote.
The muzzle and tail lead me to that opinion.
If the grass in 6/8 tall that puts this guy at 16 at the shoulder, head a 20. Fur looks very long for a fox. Muzzle looks a little bit thick for a fox. So my guess (only guess) young coyote. Ed
Red fox in silver phase (black fox) use to trap them all the time here in Colorado, till they banned most methods of trapping.
I was thinking young coyote too Ed!
Looks just like that 'thing' that was shot in Montana. Big ears, overbite, same ugly coat, long pointy snout, bushy tail. Looks like a dogote or coydog. It honestly looks too big to be a fox.
First thought was coyote from size. But it does look like a big ass melanistic fox. Maybe it's a chupacabra
Coyote possibly with some Canis Familiaris bloodlines.
first look says fox after reading you guys have me doubting myself.
Ugh. Coyotes are highly variable in the east. The coat (especially on the rear) looks a little too thick to be a red fox. The tail looks a little too short to be a red fox. Foxes tend to be very similar, while coyotes can vary tremendously, even within one pack. That critter just barely tips the scale toward coyote, in my opinion. My opinion could also be wrong because I've never killed a fox or a coyote in PA.
If you really want to know ask a local trapper. They will know the color tendencies of the local foxes and coyotes.
Watch for giants.
First picture - coyote Second picture - gray fox
UFO Unidentified Fleeing Object
Head and body shape (and length of legs) is wrong for a fox. I would say it is a melanistic coyote (fairly common in the East where they have a lot of domestic dog blood in them.)
Bullbusters photo appears to be a pine marten rather than a fisher to me. I'm not a fisher expert, but I know a thing or two about marten. (I have caught and skinned thousands of them.) A fishers tail is normally a bit more pointed; marten tails generally appear "fluffy and more circular" all the way to the end."
I also thought martin on 2nd pic.
I think the first picture is a fox. Second picture looks like the weasel family - martin or fisher.
I thought it was a pine martin but the local trappers tell me it is a fisher.
I'm going with a Young Dark Coyote in pic #1 and a Fischer in pic #2.
This one was a rare sight for me. Got him 2 years ago, Eastern Shore of Maryland while bow hunting Sika deer.
Animal #1: Fox; Animal #2: Pine Martin
thats a Marten, that aint a Fisher ... Fishers are chunkier, and much darker ... Fishers dont have a dark tip on their tail nor a big light colored patch under the chin .. Martens do ..
I think its a martin, but not all fishers are all dark. I've seen a few with a more buff colored head and shoulders mixed with a darker back end.
Junior - is that a dark phase of Red Fox that you killed in Maryland?
Old quote from a story: Sigrud Olson I think
The squirrel is supposedly the world's best acrobat, but the marten can catch the squirrel and the fisher can catch the marten...
Light colored fisher. The one above is awefully large for a Martin. The mineral lick to the left is 20-22” wide.
I mean original pic is near mineral lick
Its a dark phase coyote. Have been 3 black ones on trail camera at the lease. It seems most in that area have darker coats, if not black. That one weighed nearly 55 lbs.
That is my uncle Rays kid his mother was from Africa, lol! Stay well!!