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CO Draw Stats - Moose
Moose
Contributors to this thread:
sticksender 04-Jun-18
NoWiser 04-Jun-18
COHOYTHUNTER 04-Jun-18
BOWUNTR 04-Jun-18
MathewsMan 04-Jun-18
Treeline 04-Jun-18
sticksender 04-Jun-18
Treeline 04-Jun-18
sticksender 04-Jun-18
JDECK 04-Jun-18
COHOYTHUNTER 04-Jun-18
sticksender 04-Jun-18
BNicely 04-Jun-18
fubar racin 04-Jun-18
NoWiser 04-Jun-18
Vids 04-Jun-18
TreeWalker 04-Jun-18
MathewsMan 04-Jun-18
JRABQ 04-Jun-18
fubar racin 04-Jun-18
Treeline 04-Jun-18
cnelk 04-Jun-18
Treeline 04-Jun-18
COHOYTHUNTER 04-Jun-18
darkhollow1 04-Jun-18
Brun 04-Jun-18
Sandbrew 04-Jun-18
Treeline 04-Jun-18
PECO 04-Jun-18
Sandbrew 04-Jun-18
Orion 04-Jun-18
Quinn @work 04-Jun-18
fubar racin 04-Jun-18
Quinn @work 04-Jun-18
IdyllwildArcher 04-Jun-18
t-roy 04-Jun-18
oldgoat 05-Jun-18
fubar racin 05-Jun-18
MathewsMan 05-Jun-18
fubar racin 05-Jun-18
MathewsMan 05-Jun-18
Ucsdryder 05-Jun-18
Hoot 05-Jun-18
Treeline 05-Jun-18
Treeline 05-Jun-18
cnelk 05-Jun-18
COHOYTHUNTER 05-Jun-18
Treeline 05-Jun-18
MathewsMan 06-Jun-18
JRABQ 06-Jun-18
Treeline 06-Jun-18
Treeline 06-Jun-18
Vids 06-Jun-18
JRABQ 06-Jun-18
IdyllwildArcher 06-Jun-18
Treeline 06-Jun-18
kscowboy 06-Jun-18
Billyvanness 06-Jun-18
JRABQ 06-Jun-18
Glunt@work 06-Jun-18
bakpakr 06-Jun-18
Lone Bugle 06-Jun-18
bird dog 06-Jun-18
Billyvanness 06-Jun-18
Tomichi 06-Jun-18
cnelk 06-Jun-18
Glunt@work 06-Jun-18
sticksender 07-Jun-18
Yellowjacket 07-Jun-18
Habitat 07-Jun-18
Mad Trapper 07-Jun-18
cnelk 07-Jun-18
MathewsMan 08-Jun-18
Tomichi 08-Jun-18
Treeline 08-Jun-18
sticksender 08-Jun-18
BIGHORN 14-Jun-18
Z Barebow 14-Jun-18
Treeline 15-Jun-18
mn_archer 16-Jun-18
Bowboy 16-Jun-18
Ron Niziolek 16-Jun-18
BIGHORN 13-Aug-18
From: sticksender
04-Jun-18
The 2018 Draw Stats for Moose are now available, and it's not a rosy picture.

More bad news for all applicants (old and new) who were interested in drawing Bull Moose in their lifetimes:

Resident apps in 2017 totaled 23,775, and this year rose to 45,758.

Non Resident apps in 2017 totaled 1,948, and this year totaled 13,399.

Unbelievable....is about all I can say!

From: NoWiser
04-Jun-18
As someone with no skin in the game, I can't help but shake my head and chuckle. Wow.

From: COHOYTHUNTER
04-Jun-18
Out of curiosity, where did you find these stats? I cannot find on CPW stats page

From: BOWUNTR
04-Jun-18
The worst thing they could have done to their loyal applicants. 2 more years to get it done and get out... Ed F

From: MathewsMan
04-Jun-18
Well your information just made looking into Moose results interesting...

My dad has 3+16 going into the draw (there were 2 applicants with 3+16 for the Bull tag in his unit), and 1 drew. So he has a 50% chance that he is going to be hunting Bull Moose this fall, or else he isn't....

Anxious to see if he drew- they are in Europe or Russia somplace

From: Treeline
04-Jun-18
Haven't checked the web page yet, but would have expected resident applicants to increase much more than that. I was thinking it would be on par with the deer and elk applicants at 200,000+.

From: sticksender
04-Jun-18
Another interesting detail from the draw recap. In the past, many of the cow moose tags allocated to NR's could be drawn 2nd or 3rd or 4th choice. This phenomenon appears to have come to a screeching halt as well. Apparently owing to the onslaught of new applicants. Statewide, only one Cow Moose tag was drawn by 2nd choice. And TEN (10) cow moose tags were drawn by NR's with 0+0 points.

This is somewhat baffling, since these licenses were always available, and the license cost is the same now as it was in years past. They'll still pay the 2 grand for the license, it's just due a couple months later than in the past, and they can use a CC.

From: Treeline
04-Jun-18
Watch how many get turned in when they figure out that they actually have to pay the price for a cow...

Betcha there will be a few cow moose tags up for grabs on the leftover/returned tag CPW fiasco...

From: sticksender
04-Jun-18
COHOYTHUNTER, they were posted a couple hours ago, just not linked yet on the CPW index page. Click on my link highlighted in blazing red text in the OP.

From: JDECK
04-Jun-18
Are the draw stats for the other upcoming species available?

From: COHOYTHUNTER
04-Jun-18
Sticksender, do you know where to find elk stats?

From: sticksender
04-Jun-18
Deer is here.

Pronghorn is here.

I don't see an Elk report yet.

From: BNicely
04-Jun-18
Wow, one of the tags went to a Res with 3 & 11 in MM049... which is the unit I applied for with 3 & 11. Not sure if knowing my odds just increased to 1 out of 11 is better or worse!

From: fubar racin
04-Jun-18
Well no one drew for my moose code so I guess I'm not moose hunting this year.

From: NoWiser
04-Jun-18
Please update when the elk stats show up. There's a good chance it will tell me if I drew my hunt. I can't figure out how you are finding the 2018 info.

From: Vids
04-Jun-18
BNicely I'm in the same boat as you. Someone drew moose with my level of points, same thing with pronghorn as I threw in for the hybrid drawing there. This isn't giving me any closure, but it's telling me I'm still in the game with a 1 in 8 shot at both of those right now. This is not helping!! LOL

From: TreeWalker
04-Jun-18
Doesn't Colorado go to next person in line for any sheep/goat/moose handed back in rather than toss the tag up for grabs off the return list?

From: MathewsMan
04-Jun-18
yes

From: JRABQ
04-Jun-18
Yes I'm up to a 1 in 5 shot at a moose tag at 3+11 in 76, we'll see how long this delusion will last.

From: fubar racin
04-Jun-18
Well I guess at least the recap tells me i did get my antelope since everyone that applied drew deer doesn't look good and moose is a big no....

From: Treeline
04-Jun-18
2 in 29 at 3+17 for me in 49. Maybe........

From: cnelk
04-Jun-18
My son has a 10% chance of getting his moose tag.

From: Treeline
04-Jun-18
As it shows on the boards now, I’m at 6.8% chance that I drew in the unit 49....

From: COHOYTHUNTER
04-Jun-18
16% here

From: darkhollow1
04-Jun-18
When will the actual results be available? Clearly it is known who did and did not draw. Why not make the information available?

From: Brun
04-Jun-18
I have a 49% chance for my deer tag.

From: Sandbrew
04-Jun-18
Sticksender - Nice intel but it just prolongs the pain. Nobody in point pool drew a cow tag in my chosen unit. I have one friend who may have draw a cow tag. We will see. Sandbrew

From: Treeline
04-Jun-18
Still can’t understand why they take so long. With today’s computers it seems that it shouldn’t take more than a few hours to run the calculations for all the draws. These draws are torture.

From: PECO
04-Jun-18
I'm a tellin ya, the draw is long done, and "they" are having an office party all week, reading these threads and laughing up at our expense.

From: Sandbrew
04-Jun-18
According to the upper right corner of each of the first pages - Deer was done at 11:37 AM on 5/4 Moose was done on 5/4 at 11:57 AM.

It looks like they took about an hour for lunch then ran the Pronghorn at 12:51PM on 5/4.

Anyone want to bet Elk was run also 5/4 long with bear?

Sandbrew

From: Orion
04-Jun-18
Why put up the stats before the actual results? It makes no sense.

From: Quinn @work
04-Jun-18
Mathewsman I sure hope your Dad drew his moose tag. That would be great! He deserves it.

From: fubar racin
04-Jun-18
To piss us off Orion lol

From: Quinn @work
04-Jun-18
It used to be "backdoor". Now for the first time ever it's knowing the exact percent chance you have of drawing before the results. LOL.

04-Jun-18
It's still "backdoor." At least that's where they're putting it.

From: t-roy
04-Jun-18
With a full twist, Ike! :-(

From: oldgoat
05-Jun-18
And DRY!

From: fubar racin
05-Jun-18
Sooo after checking the cpw page about 9000 times i realized I somehow applied for the wrong unit for moose but the good news with that is that 3 of us applied with the same points as me and 2 drew.....

From: MathewsMan
05-Jun-18
Some resident guy drew a Cow Moose tag with 3+17? My guess would be that the wrong hunt code was used or something.

From: fubar racin
05-Jun-18
My wife's grand dad was one of the 3+17 for a cow guys it was his last try for a colorado moose and will be his last hunt period.

From: MathewsMan
05-Jun-18
I cashed out for a cow myself back in 2012 with max points

From: Ucsdryder
05-Jun-18
Cool story fubar! I hope he has a great hunt.

From: Hoot
05-Jun-18
my moose odds went from sub 1% to 5% now, 1 of the 4 tags was the archery code, so IF it is me I’ll be the sole moose hunter in the unit, hard to get excited about a 5% chance, but hard to not get excited about an 800% increase in odds and elimination of hundreds of competitors....

Torture...

From: Treeline
05-Jun-18
Well, after reviewing the moose draw stats, there were no archery nor muzzle loader tags issued for the unit I picked. All rifle.

Guess I can quit thinking about moose in Colorado for another year... Damn this is getting frustrating!

Two guys with max points drew and the other three resident tags went to guys that were luckier down the line in the random numbers game.

The nonresident tag went cheap at 3+5...

From: Treeline
05-Jun-18
Keeping my fingers crossed and working on my bag of magic tricks to pull a rabbit out of the hat for a sheep, goat or moose tag when someone turns their tag in....

From: cnelk
05-Jun-18
Has anyone had their CC hit for moose yet??

From: COHOYTHUNTER
05-Jun-18
It looks like every 12 hours. Last night at around 830pm my card was hit for elk at 230am this morning I received the email for elk. At 830am this morning, my card was hit for deer. I'm expecting the email for deer any minute and think moose or antelope will start tonight

From: Treeline
05-Jun-18
Guess the bright side is that I’m still at max points for moose and will only get charged $3 for the opportunity to play the game.

Maybe next year the Wildlife Commission will implement improvements to the season structure for moose so I won’t have to worry about fighting with muzzle loaders on the first day and there will be a much longer season structure to enjoy for the once in a lifetime opportunity.

Does look like we will be paying significantly more for the opportunity and the tag next year, but maybe that will help the odds of drawing a little.

Good luck to all the guys still in the running!!

And good luck to all the super lucky guys that pulled the low random numbers and got one of these tags!!! Enjoy it to its fullest!

From: MathewsMan
06-Jun-18
Moose is still not updated

From: JRABQ
06-Jun-18
I just got hit with a $2211 charge from CO!!!

From: Treeline
06-Jun-18
Awesome, JR! Congratulations!

From: Treeline
06-Jun-18
Just got my rejection email.

From: Vids
06-Jun-18
Rejection email for me....

From: JRABQ
06-Jun-18
Just got the official email, still in shock!

06-Jun-18
Also just got my rejection email.

Grats JRABQ! Where'd you draw?

From: Treeline
06-Jun-18
Which unit?

From: kscowboy
06-Jun-18

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I got the Happy Gilmore email too.

06-Jun-18
Man I had my hopes up Was in a 1 out of 7 line on the recap but nope.

From: JRABQ
06-Jun-18
I drew 76 rifle, might switch it to archery, have some time to mull it over. I chose 76 because it's a little closer to home and I hunted elk there a few years ago. The draw odds historically have been a little better than most units, but this year they only issued one non-res permit instead of 2, so the odds were pretty bad. So I got dang lucky. I was still sweating the last 48 hours as I knew I had a 1 in 5 chance from the Draw Stats.

From: Glunt@work
06-Jun-18

From: bakpakr
06-Jun-18
JRABQ, Congratulations on the tag!

From: Lone Bugle
06-Jun-18
17+3 and no chance now of ever drawing. Colorado has completely screwed her residents....

From: bird dog
06-Jun-18
Just drew a cow tag I can’t freaking wait

06-Jun-18
Eric you have 2 more years before the odds really go to hell.

From: Tomichi
06-Jun-18
3 and 18 plus the 10 to 12 years they gave tags back before points.. Make a bad system...... Worse!

From: cnelk
06-Jun-18
According to the stats, there are 449 moose hunters that would disagree that the system is bad

From: Glunt@work
06-Jun-18
Yep, and 37,000 or so hopefull moose hunters that might agree it is :^)

From: sticksender
07-Jun-18
Glunt the hopefuls total was actually 58,708 this year.

Last year that number was 25,325.

Those who have already drawn & rifled their once-in-a-lifetime bull moose may not empathize with the rest of us less-fortunates ;-)

From: Yellowjacket
07-Jun-18
Still no bull moose tag for me, 30 years this year of applying.

From: Habitat
07-Jun-18
Your odds are better to buy raffle tickets for the tag,I won my state wide tag with 100.00 worth of tickets a couple years ago

From: Mad Trapper
07-Jun-18
Do you guys know how to get a list of those landowners who get tags for moose and sheep?

From: cnelk
07-Jun-18
There are much better ways to hunt moose than to reply on a OIL drawn tag.

And yes, Ive done both, so the empathy is questionable

From: MathewsMan
08-Jun-18
BAM- my dad was successful and drew his CO Bull Moose license... They are vacationing but he knows... I called and did not realize it was 3:45 am on the other side of the world. Kind of like when he calls you Legnard and you happen to be in Belgium

From: Tomichi
08-Jun-18
Colorado time is all that matters. Just ask all my Alaska contacts. They need to be up earlier anyway lazy songuns.

From: Treeline
08-Jun-18
Congratulations to your Dad, Scott! That is awesome and you two are going to have a blast! Hope he kills a monster!

From: sticksender
08-Jun-18
Very nice Scott, congrats to your Dad.

From: BIGHORN
14-Jun-18
On my 20th year of applying I finally drew my bull moose tag. At the age of 73 I was just about ready to give up ever getting the tag. My wife and I were on a tour of England, Wales and Scotland when I received the news at 3:45 AM on June 7th. My wife had told the Tour Director the day before that we were going to celebrate our 49th anniversary. He told everyone on the tour about our anniversary and they all clapped. Then, I told them that I had drawn a bull moose tag and they clapped again. Unknown to us, the Tour Director pulled out 2 bottles of single malt scotch, gave one to us and opened the other one and filled up shot glasses for everyone to celebrate. That was very special! I have informed my guide that I drew the tag and he is excited too. Some of you might know that I had an 11 level spine fusion so there is no way I could carry out moose quarters. This hunt will be very special to me. I have always enjoyed watching Mathewsman harvest his animals over the year. That's something a father always enjoys. We would rather our kids harvest an animal than to get one ourselves. Hopefully, I will have some pictures to post on Bowsite in the future.

From: Z Barebow
14-Jun-18
Congrats Merle! Looking forward to the adventure!

From: Treeline
15-Jun-18
Good luck, Merle! Looking forward to an awesome story! You are off to a great start!

From: mn_archer
16-Jun-18
Merle,

thanks for the message. Glad you liked England and had a great time. I couldnt br happier that you drew. I'm excited to see how it turns out for you

From: Bowboy
16-Jun-18
Congrats Merle on the tag. Can't wait to see the pictures and story!

From: Ron Niziolek
16-Jun-18
Congrats Merle on the tag and your resolve to keep hunting after the back surgery. Heck, I only have 3 levels in my back and two in my neck fused. You sir, are an inspiration!

From: BIGHORN
13-Aug-18
I had to go in and switch my bull tag from the archery season to the rifle season because my wife is having a hip replacement surgery at the end of this month and she needs me to take her to PT and help her around the house until she get better. I will still be able to use my bow during the rifle season. There was a fee of $25 to do the switch.

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