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Magnus Stingers and blood trails
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Contributors to this thread:
Spike 22-Jul-18
splitlimb13 22-Jul-18
Pigsticker 22-Jul-18
Pigsticker 22-Jul-18
Dale06 22-Jul-18
bighorn 22-Jul-18
sir misalots 22-Jul-18
splitlimb13 22-Jul-18
rooster 22-Jul-18
bighorn 22-Jul-18
Pigsticker 22-Jul-18
Spike 23-Jul-18
Bowfreak 23-Jul-18
Pigsticker 23-Jul-18
Old School 23-Jul-18
Glunker 23-Jul-18
craig@work 23-Jul-18
splitlimb13 23-Jul-18
bumpinblaze4x4 23-Jul-18
Lever Action 23-Jul-18
splitlimb13 23-Jul-18
MichaelArnette 23-Jul-18
Pigsticker 23-Jul-18
Pigsticker 23-Jul-18
Glunker 23-Jul-18
splitlimb13 23-Jul-18
Kurt in Memphis 23-Jul-18
200incher 23-Jul-18
carcus 24-Jul-18
splitlimb13 24-Jul-18
Pigsticker 24-Jul-18
Bowboy 24-Jul-18
elkmtngear 24-Jul-18
From: Spike
22-Jul-18
I’ve used Magnus Stingers for several years. I love them. They are razor sharp, fly great and I always get great penetration, usually a complete pass through, but the blood trails are sparse. I shoot 125 grain buzzcuts with bleeder blades and can’t figure out why I’m not getting better blood trails. Does anyone have any insights as to why?

From: splitlimb13
22-Jul-18
I've shot the buzzcuts and the black hornets and have never had any issues with blood trail or anything else. Great head.

From: Pigsticker
22-Jul-18

Pigsticker's embedded Photo
Pigsticker's embedded Photo
This is where a B Stinger hit a 150 boar. Pigs typically don’t bleed a lot.

From: Pigsticker
22-Jul-18

Pigsticker's embedded Photo
Pigsticker's embedded Photo
Here he is opening up like sieve about 6 feet from point of impact.

From: Dale06
22-Jul-18
I have shot a few animals with Stingers. They performed very well. But blood trails did seem a little anemic. However, most of the animals fell dead in under 60 yards. Shot location has a lot of influence on blood trails. Low exit holes usually bleeds much more externally than a high exit hole.

From: bighorn
22-Jul-18
split limb which ones do you like better buzzcuts or black hornet?

From: sir misalots
22-Jul-18
blood trails are tricky Ive seen two blade holes seal up But Ive see three and 4 blades do the same. I prefer a three blade though overall One preferably that has a ferrule larger than the shaft diameter.

From: splitlimb13
22-Jul-18
They're both great heads . I'd give the edge to the black hornets SERAZOR! Shorter , thicker, deadly!

From: rooster
22-Jul-18
I've killed a hog and a doe with a 100 gr 2 blade Stinger. Both died in sight so, blood trail was no issue. The Stinger went through the boars scapula and was a pass through on he doe, for what it's worth. Great heads IMO.

From: bighorn
22-Jul-18
Switched to the Black Hornets last year, they are deadly.

From: Pigsticker
22-Jul-18

Pigsticker's embedded Photo
Pigsticker's embedded Photo
A buddy that I got shooting Stingers just sent me this pic. Complete pass through with 460 grain arrow. Said he went twenty yards.

From: Spike
23-Jul-18
Thanks for the input guys. I love the heads and have killed a lot of animals with them. As was pointed out, many of the animals I’ve shot go down quickly and blood trailing is not necessary. Complete pass through on four elk and a moose and none of them went 100 yards. But I’ve noticed when hunting Whitetails in thick cover, where you can’t see them go down, even with a good shot, the blood trails can be sparse. I was recently in Africa and made perfect shots on a warthog, Nyala and Blesbok. Complete pass through on all three and none of them left good blood trails. The Nyala went down in site and We recovered the warthog but there was very little blood. My PH asked me to change heads so I shot a Wildebeest and a Waterbuck with a four blade slick trick and got much better blood trails.

I just can’t figure out why the stingers don’t leave good blood trails.

From: Bowfreak
23-Jul-18
Shot placement is the biggest key to blood trails. When your broadhead goes through the area right at the top of the heart or just above, you typically get great blood. Also...the more forward in the lungs gives better blood. If you are a guy that always shoots behind the front leg, you are typically going to out a little less blood on the ground than a guy who shoots the V.

From: Pigsticker
23-Jul-18

Pigsticker's embedded Photo
Pigsticker's embedded Photo
B Stinger at 30 yards and this guy poured out like you were dumping it from a bucket.

From: Old School
23-Jul-18
As bowfreak indicates it’s all about shot placement. I’ve never had any issues like you are experiencing. Was your shot placement with the slick tricks the same as with the Stingers?

-Mitch

From: Glunker
23-Jul-18
My experience with Magnus stingers is similar to yours. I like the way they fly, penetrate and can be resharpended. I have noticed some sparse bloodtrails but I think they can be explained by the location of the hit. I use the bleeder blades. My son and I shot bull elk high in the lung and had weak blood trails. The saving grace was his bull went 90-100 yards and mine 175. I will admit i have met hunters that might not have found those bulls but luckily those are few and far between. I heart shot a doe last year that due to a sharp angle the exit hole was through the top of the leg. Blood was sparse but with my headlamp and patience I found her after maybe 80-90 yards. Again I am sure almost all hunters could have found that deer. I like the head but I have tracked a lot of animals, enjoy tracking them and am not intimidated by weak blood trails. I would rather have a stinger pass through than a big headed non pass through.

From: craig@work
23-Jul-18
Black Hornet Ser razors are amazing. I have used stinger 2 and 4 blades, buzzcut 2 blades, and snuffer ss. none leave the blood trails of the black hornets. huge holes and generally short tracking IF I place it correctly.

Craig

From: splitlimb13
23-Jul-18
Plus side to Magnus is I've never had an animal go over 60 yards,elk included. Idk if you guys have seen my pics on elk quartering too you questions , but I shot a bull through the right front shoulder and the black hornet SERAZOR was in his opposite hip.

23-Jul-18
Maybe i've been shooting magnus broadheads for so long that i forgot what a large expandable blood trail looks like but i firmly believe that 90% of an easy to follow blood trail is shot placement. Sure a bigger broadhead will cut more and may hit something that a stinger wont but if you put both broadheads in the exact same spot then the blood trail (in my experience) will be very similar.

From: Lever Action
23-Jul-18
I saw the same. A dozen deer or more and nothing. That said... I saw them all drop.

From: splitlimb13
23-Jul-18

splitlimb13's embedded Photo
splitlimb13's embedded Photo
I do have to come clean. I cheated on Magnus with another broadhead for my elk hunt last year and I could not believe the amount of blood pouring out of that bull ! Instantly! This pic was the spot he was standing when I shot him. Before he took one step.

23-Jul-18
I shot the Magnus stronger and steelforce four blades back when I used a compound. I’ve found a three blade or 4 blade with wider bleeders give a better bloodtrail but nothing wrong with the stingers at all

From: Pigsticker
23-Jul-18

Pigsticker's embedded Photo
Pigsticker's embedded Photo
Hmm, bubbly at B Stinger entry point. Oh wait, she only went forty yards.

From: Pigsticker
23-Jul-18

Pigsticker's embedded Photo
Pigsticker's embedded Photo
A bowsite friend shot this bleeder with a rage that went almost a half mile before having to put the coup de grace. Really good blood trail though.

From: Glunker
23-Jul-18
Pigsticker, way too funny.

From: splitlimb13
23-Jul-18
Pigsticker ,that's great stuff. Typical rage ! 2/3 the arrow sticking out half mile recovery , BADASS BLOOD TRIAIL!!! True story, when rage was starting to get popular my friend stuck a 320ish satellite bull , followed the blood trail all the way to the heard to see him trying to steel cows and leading us to the herd bull! Hahaha

23-Jul-18

Kurt in Memphis's embedded Photo
Not a massive Rage-hole, but this deer didn't know she was hit. Watched her drop 15 yards from where shot.
Kurt in Memphis's embedded Photo
Not a massive Rage-hole, but this deer didn't know she was hit. Watched her drop 15 yards from where shot.
I have only shot 2 blade Stingers for 10+ years on whitetails. I switched from a 3 blade head because I shoot a low poundage bow and seemed I wasn't getting consistent pass throughs.

With the Stingers, I have always had pass throughs and deer don't go far. Blood trails not as good as a pass through 3 blade, but not bad at all. A lot depends on the exit location as to the amount of blood on the ground.

I will say, several of the deer I shot with the Stinger seem to not even know they have been shot. Some just stood where I shot them and fell over..others trotted a few yards and stood until wobbly and fell. It seems the deer I've shot wight the 3 blade heads took off like a lightening bolt, making the blood trails much longer.

From: 200incher
23-Jul-18

200incher's Link
I've shot 150 grain 4 blade stringers for years. They always leave plenty of blood. This is a video of the blood trail from my Book cliffs buck.

From: carcus
24-Jul-18
My snyper 2 blades leave great blood trails, and they are only 1 3/8" cut

From: splitlimb13
24-Jul-18
Good stuff 200

From: Pigsticker
24-Jul-18
200incher,I think that I could follow that blood trail.

From: Bowboy
24-Jul-18
I've used stingers and Buzzcuts for years. No issues with blood trails but my animals usually fall within eyesight. This is if I do my part.

From: elkmtngear
24-Jul-18

elkmtngear's embedded Photo
elkmtngear's embedded Photo
I don't really need a foot-wide bloodtrail to follow...but I do like it when the animal goes down quickly. This was a four foot recovery, and my second animal with the same 2 blade Stinger (bull elk, 30 yard recovery).

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