Amish G2’s?
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Yes, those Amish carpenters are highly skilled craftsmen.
You're smart to hire them for building.
Question is, do they shoot lighted knocks?
Be careful, Some live off the reputation of others.
Gotta wonder though - if they are hard core Amish, why would they hunt with modern bows?
Don’t the Amish believe in limiting technology!??
Since they are reputed to be so good at carpentry and wood work, I would think that they should be building their own longbows and recurves rather than shooting ultra modern Mathews compounds.
That's pretty cool, Pat. When we went to the KBA banquet last year several Amish were in attendance. One Amish kid cleaned house on raffle prizes too!
When i live in MO, there were Mennonites that lived close by, they were expert carpenters, and i never met one that wasn't a bowhunter - in fact almost every time i went to the archery shop some were there gearing up for deer or turkey season..... i shot in a big pop up 3d tournament at Bass pro in springfield one year and there were lots of Amish and Mennonites shooting in the tournament. good folks...
When I was in Alaska on my Dall hunt, there was an Amish father and son hunting sheep. The kid was head-to-toe Sitka and had the nicest gear of any of us, including a group who has their own hunting show. Nice people.
They had a friend drive them all the way to Anchorage from Ohio, as they couldn’t fly. Finally, their guide convinced them there was no other way to access their area other than by plane. They assumed they could just horseback into the basin once they got there by taking a couple of hunting days to do it. It was pretty cool watching the son crawl into the SuperCub to fly into their camp. There was a mixture of excitement and fright on his face. Yes, they both got sheep!
They can afford the best, they don't have a half dozen vehicles to keep up like the rest of us !
I live and grew up in Tuscarawas County Ohio, beside the largest amish community in the nation... I'll re-frame from telling stories about the amish and that society, but will say am sure some are trophy hunters, but from my experience around them afield, "If its brown, its down"... They'll kill everything, then lease out the next property they can acquire when game is all gone... Reason they don't hunt their own property because they already killed everything off...
As for their "no driving and no electricity" beliefs, its not that cut and dry... They hire people to drive them in motor vehicles... Pat, they didn't they pull up with a horse and buddy to your house did they?... I work in the telecommunications industry, and install and repair their phones in little booths at the end of their driveways, and now a days they ALL have cell phones and access to the internet... Don't get me started about their "romadom" or something like that... They are not as pure as they want us "dumb English" to believe... Am sure there are some lurking the internet like this site right now, but don't post...
Also from my experience, most of them hunt with xbows more that compounds... Our states largest non typical (I think it is) was killed by amish with a xbow...
I had a small 2 car pole barn built by 2 Amish and a Mennonite. The Mennonite would drive them there but the Amish used the skid steerer and battery operated tools. The only thing they would not do is plug the batteries into the chargers. They would pull a new battery and throw the dead one on the ground next to the chargers. The Mennonite guy would go over now and then and plug them in and would plug the chargers into the extension cord I put out each morning. None of them used a ladder the entire build but would shimmey up a 2x4 leaned on the frame. Amazine to watch and everything was dead nuts plumb and to size. Very little waste. 20 minutes for lunch and back to work. Built the whole thing in 2 days. I will say that their reputation in PA as far as hunting goes is not good. I also hunted with a bunch in Colorado. Mennonite guy drove them out and told us at the first rest stop, they went in Amish and came out "English". They all had high tech scopes, rifles, rangefinders and radios.
I thinks it either #1 or #2 state nontypical... I think it actually scores higher than the Beatty Buck, (maybe not, I forget)... Its either #1 or #2, but anyhow, was monitored big time with high tech time trail cams and xgun killed first day of or so-called bow season at long range in Adams County, 2006...
Hopefully they had "Workers Comp."....everything you are NOT supposed to do on a step ladder....lol
Most of the Amish take their deer hunting very seriously and a lot have the latest, tricked out setups. As far as what they can and won't do with electricity and technology, it totally depends on which community they come from. Same have electric in their houses and only have landline telephones while others have no electric but they have cellphones. There are huge variances. Some are Christians who believe the New Testament and others might get excommunicated for talking about being born again. I have an Amish uncle who is a preacher and owns probably 15 handguns and reloads 1000's of rounds of ammo a year. The community I grew up close to, where I have many relatives, are predominantly trophy hunters, but there is another community within 20 miles that is rife with gunning down anything that moves and violating game laws. Maybe I'm the only Mennonite on Bowsite?
From: Treeline 11-Sep-18
Gotta wonder though - if they are hard core Amish, why would they hunt with modern bows?
Because they LOVE to eat venison! ;-)
Z-bone.............................I think you mean "Rumspringa". I grew up in Lebanon Co. Pa and we had many Amish farms in our community. In fact, there was one just over the hill from our housing development and you could see their cow pasture from our yard. During Rumspringa the younger Amish will try things "of the world" and are actually encouraged to do so, but at the end of their Rumspringa, they must decided to join the church or leave the Amish community(for good!)
My mom hired an Amish girl to clean her house after I went to college and she(my mom) got older. The Amish girl would walk to my mom's house and get picked up by her boyfriend by horse and buggy(not covered) when she was done. One day my mom forgot and left the TV on and noticed the girl watching it. My mom apologized for leaving it on and the girl said there was nothing against watching TV, they just could not own one. In fact, the girl said she and her friends would often pool their money and get a hotel room on Fri. or Sat. night(can't remember) so they could watch TV and socialize.
I don't live in the area anymore, but my mom also said that it is common now to see trucks parked at the end of their driveways next to the road. It is the young Amish going thru Rumspringa that park them there, as they are not allowed to park them on their property. I guess if they are parked on the "right of way" of the road, it is not considered their property.
I used to go to the big Lehigh Valley Outdoor Expo in Aug in Kempton, Pa. One year I was surprised to see an Amish gentleman dressed in his typical attire and straw hat holding a Hoyt bow decked out in the latest accessories and a hip quiver full of carbon arrows. I was a little surprised too when I saw that.
A few years ago went to a Amish gent (Sam) that had a lumber mill and had to go down the road to his neighbor's farm that he just bought. His son-in-law was carry out the toilet and Sam just said that he was making the house livable, the new outhouse was just put in.
Nice looking shop Pat...in our corner of the world our largest industries all have Amish ties. From construction to roll metal stamping, into high end industrial fabrication shops and large truss fabrication and distribution. My primary bow shop for the longest time was a little Amish run place ran off a gas generator, the sold...Matthews.
"making the house livable".....................................LMBO! : )
It's a good thing they were sticking with their beliefs in staying away from technology by shooting a Mathews bow! Bahaha!
Yeah Rut Nut - "Rumspringa", yeah that's it... Thanks
"I guess if they are parked on the "right of way" of the road, it is not considered their property."... Yeah, that's what I figured their theory is with the phone booths at the end of their driveways...
Feedjake - I have a x-amish friend, and my girlfriend's nephew is married to a x-amish Mennonite girl, but am sure you would know much more than I, but there are big differences in rules and religion between Mennonites and amish from what I understand...
I live in west Farmington ohio. Middlefield ohio (next door) has the 5th largest Amish community in the world, so I know ALOT about the Amish. The NY Amish are from here and not PA. OH Amish certainly do use phones and yoder touters (amish taxis) as well as a lot of other things that you might assume they wouldn't use. One rule is that you don't give 1 Amish person the right to hunt you're land. They don't hunt alone and allowances for one does mean allowance for all. Despite what they might say. The Amish are also not keen on private land, unless it is theirs. Many (most) Ohio residents can attest to the fact that Amish are not conservationists and are able to quickly clear the land of any living thing that is in season at that moment.
Be careful.
A woman I know in Iowa has her baby cared for by an Amish woman with two youngsters of her own. Amish do not vaccinate and all three children have come down with Whooping Cough.
Had some amish do some work for us. The respect they have for everyone they meet has been long lost in the people of this country.
Garage looks great, Pat. Glad things turned out good.
You could have gotten “Munsoned” ;-)
I live in Lebanon Pa, and although the Amish are good workers, you can have them. I agree with Zbone above... LOL.. if its brown its down.......You ever see 40-50 guys drive out an area on any given day of rifle season ?? Total BS.... Plus the roads are full of horse sh.. and once on your vehicle, you damn near have to use a scraper to remove it... Good workers though, and the garage looks damn good.
I live in north central Minnesota and we hgv ave the 274th largest Amush community in the world-legit. we gave a horse on road sign...
All kidding aside I was at an amish house yesterday ordering a couple turkeys. This guy owns a feed mill and one building on his property has electricity and he does have a phone booth at the end of his driveway.
A neighbor of his ( amish) has a sawmill which also runs off electricity
As far as the negative comments above about their hunting habits. tgats not what this post was about and the only thing I'll say about that is it seems people are always afraid of someone thats different. Regular folk like you and mn e arent immune to poaching either.
Sweet shop Pat, hope you get it cluttered up soon and it ends up messier than mine.
What broadheads do the shoot? Rage?
Talking about their hunting habits, think about this: Most Amish families are very LARGE! Have to be since all the farm work is done manually or with horses. So even if they "play by the rules" a family of anywhere from 5-8 boys/men could shoot 10-16 deer (or more) per year depending on what state and management unit they are hunting. And that is just one family. And when you live off the land and depend on it for food, I imagine you are pretty motivated to be good hunters! ;-)
mn_archer well said...makes you wonder what would have been said if it was some other minority constructing the building...
I hired a few Hudderite brothers to frame a house for my company a few years back. Nicest guys you'll ever meet.....some of the worst framing I've ever seen. Had to send my guys in for a week to fix what could be fixed and come up with ideas to make it work with what was too far gone. Never again. Glad it worked out for you Pat.
Glad you had a good experience. Dad hired a crew to frame his house and all went Well til some make shift scaffolding I'd warned them about collapsed and they're "English" driver broke his back. That's when we found out they don't believe in insurance..... Unless it's yours. Long story short I used most of vacation 2 years on a law suit. Don't get me started on the "bushwhackers" methods of hunting +fishing, you do not want them as neighbors
Nice looking garage. They sure are talented carpenters. That being said, I lived in Tuscarawas county Ohio for a few years and still hunt there. I have never personally met any Amish or gotten to know any, but the locals had nothing nice to say about them...people that grew up there. Maybe they were taught that from their parents maybe not...
Good to hear you met a couple fellow hunters.
I'm so surprised how quickly people generalize about an entire culture based on a couple (often second hand) stories. Just like every other culture, they are all individuals. Some good, some bad.
I’m with MN_archer & IT Hunter -
From the tone of this thread, you might think that everyone on here is some kind of Paragon of Religious Virtue... Me, I stopped even THINKING about looking for rocks to pick up a loooong time ago.
And I have to say.... It cracks me up BIG TIME to see people ripping on these guys for using compounds and crossbows and the most efficient tools and techniques available to them to put food on their own tables. Those guys could probably plant 40 acres with the amount of corn that a lot of “highly skilled” hunters throw on the ground every year....
A group of 12 Amish and Mennonites (including 1 Catholic to drive the van) came up to "my" caribou camp every year for several years.
Great guys, good hunters, and they appreciated my hard work... best tips I ever received.
"but the locals had nothing nice to say about them...people that grew up there. Maybe they were taught that from their parents maybe not..."
mattandersen - No, us dumb English parents don't teach, most of us locals learn on our own through experiences of unsupervised slaughtering of game in the stinky hygiene while being talked about in their native tongue of Dutch, German or whatever the he!! it is (its degrading and irritating to know they are talking about you in front of you and not understand what they are saying) yet will gladly take your dumb English money, without paying taxes or military draft duty while utilizing public roads and services... I won't go into their breeding practices, but they put on a good front for tourists and business opportunities such as construction, but once us dumb English learn them, we learn them... Maybe this is my of getting back from the times talking in their tongue and not knowing what they're saying...8^)
Zbone - They are allowed to opt out of FICA but can't collect from it if they do. Pay all other taxes. And sounds like someone is paranoid.
No not paranoid, just had dealings with them over the years... mattandersen kinda got my goat when insinuating we locals are taught and teach our kids negative about the amish... That is not true, so I had to rant a little... Nobody ever taught me negativity towards them and I personally never said anything or ever taught my kids negatively towards them... My opinion was learned from personally experiences... For example, its tough to take when they come in huge groups and invade your hunting area and wipe everything out....
Okay Pat, I got it off my chest, I'll shut up now...
I don't even know why I post ANYTHING on Bowsite anymore. It doesn't matter what the hell its about I am wrong...This site is going to shit and fast. Sorry Pat..shouldn't have even commented. I was actually on your side zbone, again from what I'd heard.
Looks awesome Pat - enjoy it!
I am from Michigan and the Amish and Mennonites are steadily buying up farm land here in the central part of the state. The Amish recently just bought an 80 acre parcel from a widow who lives a few miles north of me. Her son and their lawyer were there at the homestead when 2 Amish gentleman showed up to finalize the sale. He told me they paid in cash and showed up with a 5 gallon pail filled with $100 bills. Not loose bills but wrapped bills. When the money was laid out and counted, it came up short from what was needed. The one Amish gent looked at the other and said "you brought the wrong pail"
HAHA that’s hilarious buckhammer
Thought you guys might get a kick out of this of grandson and I and amish buddy a few years ago...8^)
Ive heard good and bad about the amish. I guess we have to classify then like everyone else, black,white,Mexican, Jewish,..... There are probably good ones and not so good ones we have a lot around here. Seem like hard working and nice folks. Different ...yes But we all are