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Pat’s Day 2 bull : score?
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Contributors to this thread:
Pat Lefemine 16-Sep-18
Shrewski 16-Sep-18
MTNRCHR 16-Sep-18
Huntcell 16-Sep-18
TheTone 16-Sep-18
JDM 16-Sep-18
cmbbulldog 16-Sep-18
ELKMAN 16-Sep-18
Brun 16-Sep-18
Bou'bound 16-Sep-18
THP 16-Sep-18
Norseman 16-Sep-18
Gobears16 16-Sep-18
Mule Power 16-Sep-18
Michael 16-Sep-18
AZ~Rich 16-Sep-18
AZrecurve 16-Sep-18
greg simon 16-Sep-18
Heat 16-Sep-18
Medicinemann 16-Sep-18
Matt 16-Sep-18
Ucsdryder 16-Sep-18
RogBow 16-Sep-18
LUNG$HOT 16-Sep-18
wyobullshooter 16-Sep-18
Mike Turner 16-Sep-18
Shrewski 16-Sep-18
drycreek 16-Sep-18
bburen 16-Sep-18
Glunt@work 16-Sep-18
cnelk 16-Sep-18
Shawn 16-Sep-18
deerslayer 16-Sep-18
No Mercy 16-Sep-18
Bake 16-Sep-18
bb 16-Sep-18
Big-Al 16-Sep-18
Treeline 17-Sep-18
XbowfromNY 17-Sep-18
BullBuster 17-Sep-18
TD 17-Sep-18
BOHNTR 18-Sep-18
AZBUGLER 18-Sep-18
Bou'bound 18-Sep-18
GhostBird 19-Sep-18
BOHNTR 19-Sep-18
Shrewski 19-Sep-18
Pat Lefemine 19-Sep-18
bb 19-Sep-18
Norseman 19-Sep-18
Mike Ukrainetz 19-Sep-18
TD 19-Sep-18
IdyllwildArcher 19-Sep-18
Chief 419 19-Sep-18
Billyvanness 19-Sep-18
Smtn10PT 19-Sep-18
Norseman 19-Sep-18
splitlimb13 19-Sep-18
splitlimb13 19-Sep-18
From: Pat Lefemine
16-Sep-18

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Guess his gross score
Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Guess his gross score

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See my day 2 bull, watch the video and let us know what you guess as his gross score. We are debating here in camp and I’m curious what you guys put him at.

From: Shrewski
16-Sep-18
260. No mass. You can do better Pat :-)

Trust me, hunt the ENTIRE season. Arizona elk tag is way to rare of a thing to end it early. It will get better and better. Kill or no kill you will never have elk hunting like this until you draw your next AZ tag.

From: MTNRCHR
16-Sep-18
Thats a 320 bull.

From: Huntcell
16-Sep-18
Day one was 260 maybe, day two was 325

16-Sep-18
I wouldn't have to ask because we would be measuring;)

I have no clue, but Good Luck!

From: TheTone
16-Sep-18
is it cheating to give a range? I think he's 290-310

From: JDM
16-Sep-18
317 6/8

From: cmbbulldog
16-Sep-18
315 to 320

From: ELKMAN
16-Sep-18
I would score that bull "a 10 in my book"...

From: Brun
16-Sep-18
320

From: Bou'bound
16-Sep-18
Big enough anytime anywhere with a bow

From: THP
16-Sep-18
315

From: Norseman
16-Sep-18
His good thirds and above average width for that size bull has him pushing 330. I would put him at 328

From: Gobears16
16-Sep-18
324

From: Mule Power
16-Sep-18
More mass would put him over 300.... probably 310. I’m going to say 300 even on that bull.

From: Michael
16-Sep-18
I think that bull will surprise some people. His 3rds are nice. However a little weak on the 4ths. I am going to say he will gross 330.

From: AZ~Rich
16-Sep-18
Pat, Now you know why I live in AZ. Keep after it and it WILL happen. Good luck!!

From: AZrecurve
16-Sep-18
305

From: greg simon
16-Sep-18
Good time length overall with long thirds. I put him at 310. Good bull but there are much bigger ones in that unit. I have seen some! Good luck and keep the updates coming.

From: Heat
16-Sep-18
320 ish. Shooter all day long for me!

From: Medicinemann
16-Sep-18
Hey Pat, Remember your recent thread about getting your two bucks back from the taxidermist? Why would you want to reduce that majestic bull to nothing more than a number? How superficial of you.....LMAO!!! You are so busted....

From: Matt
16-Sep-18
320"

From: Ucsdryder
16-Sep-18
Ha Jake! I was waiting for that!!!!

From: RogBow
16-Sep-18
Guess it's canned soup for dinner.

From: LUNG$HOT
16-Sep-18
I give him 315

16-Sep-18
Touché Jake. I think Pat served up a softball and you hit it out of the park. ;-)

From: Mike Turner
16-Sep-18
300-310" weak fronts!

From: Shrewski
16-Sep-18
You guys watch too much TV, he’s got weak everything but his 3rds :-)

From: drycreek
16-Sep-18
I can't score that elk, but I would have been shaking like a dog passing a peach seed if he were 15 feet from me.

From: bburen
16-Sep-18
300

From: Glunt@work
16-Sep-18
290 - 305. But really there are only two scores "yes" and "no". He's a yes for me but on a special hunt with a good chance of getting on similar and bigger bulls, I could see passing. I'm not much of a trophy hunter but calling/hunting bull elk in the rut with a bow is something we don't get much time to do in our lives. Its to be treasured. He spooks, you get to keep hunting. You kill him, you take a nice bull home. It was a no lose situation.

From: cnelk
16-Sep-18
Obviously not big enough or you woulda killed him

From: Shawn
16-Sep-18
I say 114" plus another 210"s!! 320 ish all day. Shawn

From: deerslayer
16-Sep-18
I would guess 320-25ish. I shot a similar bull that had better fronts, but weaker thirds. Grossed 329 4/8. Great bull, but an Az tag changes that definition for sure.

From: No Mercy
16-Sep-18
318 5/8 net

From: Bake
16-Sep-18
I think 310 to 320. I would have tried to kill him too

From: bb
16-Sep-18
I agree with Norseman. I put him in the 330's

From: Big-Al
16-Sep-18
Maybe 270, but that's being generous too. Nice bull, but no where near 300" if that's what you are after. Great videos, though!

From: Treeline
17-Sep-18
Over 300” but under 320”.

From: XbowfromNY
17-Sep-18
312"

From: BullBuster
17-Sep-18
310

From: TD
17-Sep-18
300, 310. I've helped put the tape to a few honest 320+ and they were a good bit bigger. The side view pic shows him better, he's really not all that long in beam and tines to go much over 300 IMO. Front on shots and rear shots are deceptive. Dandy bull though..... I'd have shot him in a second.

Bigdan taught me how to judge elk. Figure what I thought it might go and then take 20-30 points off...... then I'm usually pretty close..... =D

From: BOHNTR
18-Sep-18
I rather not give a score......don't want to get yelled at like, Jake! :) :)

Pat Quote: "Jake, I'd prefer not to reduce these majestic animals to a number. You are getting very superficial in your golden years."

From: AZBUGLER
18-Sep-18
320ish. Decent mass, good beam length, average point length. A GOOD bull.

From: Bou'bound
18-Sep-18
Looking bigger now than he did on day 2

From: GhostBird
19-Sep-18
Yep... definitely 114.........................

From: BOHNTR
19-Sep-18
I measure A LOT of elk.....even been fortunate enough to arrow a few. IMO, that bull is around 300-305", nothing more. Two more years and he could be one of those AZ Giants we sometimes see at panel.

From: Shrewski
19-Sep-18
I’d really like to hear what the guesses were from all in camp, especially the guides. The first bull I killed in AZ was 361, 350 1/8 net officially. The one I killed last year was 270 just measureing myself. The bull in the video is VERY similar to my smaller AZ bull.

From: Pat Lefemine
19-Sep-18
Just asked Steven and he says 335, his other guide says 340. I’m holding at 330. He sure didn’t look less than 300 at 15 feet.

From: bb
19-Sep-18
I was thinking 330 would be at the low end of the 330's range. He looks to me like he has at least 50" main beams good mass and long tines especially the 3rd's and 5th's. can't remember the last time I ever saw a sub 300" bull with 5th's that good or 3rd's for that matter. I doubt you would see a low 300's bull with 3rds that good unless he's really lacking everywhere else and this one isn't.

From: Norseman
19-Sep-18
Well... There’s only one thing to do to settle this.

Pat?

19-Sep-18
320 and if you wanted to kill him you should have nervous grunted him to stop him broadside, just sayin...

From: TD
19-Sep-18
It think elk and deer guides buy their tape from the same place bear guides buy their scales....... =D

19-Sep-18
310 bull, but I wouldn't be surprised if he went 10 inches up or down of that. But there's no way that he's 335-340. I have a ton of respect for Steven Ward as a guide, but I disagree.

From: Chief 419
19-Sep-18
315 to 325 is my guess. They always look bigger when blowing snot on you while bugling.

19-Sep-18
270” with a spread, probably 40”, 310” total Beautiful and I’d shoot especially slam dunk close like that

From: Smtn10PT
19-Sep-18
Hes in that 3goodenough to 3lookingbettereveryday range

From: Norseman
19-Sep-18
Watch the video. Looks like he wanted to stop on his own after bolting 10 yards. Then the cow call spooked him further.

From: splitlimb13
19-Sep-18
280-290

From: splitlimb13
19-Sep-18
No way close to 330 man. I think hear beautiful bull but not even tickling 330.

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