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Tuning question/Elite
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Contributors to this thread:
elk yinzer 23-Oct-18
JTV 23-Oct-18
SixLomaz 23-Oct-18
Trial153 23-Oct-18
Aspen Ghost 23-Oct-18
Ucsdryder 23-Oct-18
Yellowjacket 23-Oct-18
Buffalo1 23-Oct-18
elk yinzer 23-Oct-18
Trial153 23-Oct-18
Franklin 24-Oct-18
COHOYTHUNTER 24-Oct-18
elk yinzer 24-Oct-18
x-man 24-Oct-18
elk yinzer 24-Oct-18
Brotsky 24-Oct-18
joehunter8301 24-Oct-18
JTV 24-Oct-18
Ironbow 24-Oct-18
Russell 24-Oct-18
GLP 24-Oct-18
Russell 24-Oct-18
JTV 24-Oct-18
Franklin 25-Oct-18
From: elk yinzer
23-Oct-18
Ok I am not much of an archery guy to preface this. Just a bowhunter.

2013 Elite Answer. Ever since I bought it this thing has been spot on. 125 gr VPAs always hit exactly where field points do. Checked it the week before the season...still money.

Shot it today and suddenly the broadheads were impacting 6 inches left at 25 yards. Which I verified after burying one in my shed at 40. Checked all my hunting arrows, same impact point.

I moved the rest and got the broadheads dialed back in. They are now hitting perfect but it didn't converge with the field point poi as I understand "broadhead tuning" should; it moved the fieldpoints equally right.

What could cause this? I need a new string but I was trying to wait until the end of the season. Could an old string be the cause? Since my broadheads are sighted in, do I just ride it out and address later? Or should I take this thing into a shop before my rutcation?

From: JTV
23-Oct-18
get it straightened out, dont hunt with a iffy bow .... could be a strand broke under the serving, could it have been shooter error, could be an unseen crack in the limb (I had that happen and things went wacko)... could be shooter error (just sayin) .....if there is time, get it looked at asap ..

From: SixLomaz
23-Oct-18
Get an Excalibur crossbow until you fix your Elite. I have one for sale.

From: Trial153
23-Oct-18
String ( not cable ) stretch will cause you to gain poundage. Left broadhead for a right handed shooter is a weak spine reaction.

Now that said I dont think you picked up enough poundage from a little bit of string stretch to cause that variation. The answer did tune well with a weak spine...so maybe. But More likely you have a combination of things happening and new string and cables along with a retune is in order. However I also think that If your sighted in and shooting well, and willing to keep tabs on that ...I would get though your rut vacation and worry about it after the season.

From: Aspen Ghost
23-Oct-18
1 week is a short period of time for it to change that much. You might want to check for anything that may have loosened. My sight went haywire in the middle of elk season this year. There was a loose screw that allowed it to move ever so slightly to the left or right depending on how I raised the bow.

From: Ucsdryder
23-Oct-18
Could be a form issue. Take a break and go shoot tomorrow. Hand torque will always be exaggerated with Broadheads.

From: Yellowjacket
23-Oct-18
I'm inclined to also say something moved for impact to change that much. Sight, rest, screw loose somewhere...

From: Buffalo1
23-Oct-18
Just for insurance totally rub your limbs with a cotton ball to check the limbs for possible cracks. This will either detect or elimate a limb issue.

From: elk yinzer
23-Oct-18
It can't be sights because the FP remained on. When I moved the rest both BH and FP moved.

My first thought was form but I intentionally torqued to see if I could change the shot. No dice. And I am no pro shooter but a consistent 6" of torque at 25 yards is a little more than the usual off day shooting performance.

I checked for limb cracks but nothing is evident.

Process of elimination is pointing to the string/cables. Nothing obvious, no broken strands, but they are old.

Gonna shoot again tomorrow before I hunt again. We shall see.

From: Trial153
23-Oct-18
String ( not cable ) stretch will cause you to gain poundage. Left broadhead for a right handed shooter is a weak spine reaction.

Now that said I dont think you picked up enough poundage from a little bit of string stretch to cause that variation. The answer did tune well with a weak spine...so maybe. But More likely you have a combination of things happening and new string and cables along with a retune is in order. However I also think that If your sighted in and shooting well, and willing to keep tabs on that ...I would get though your rut vacation and worry about it after the season.

From: Franklin
24-Oct-18
If you see no major structural problems and the BH is now hitting where you are aiming...I would go with it for the next few weeks. Not sure many bow shops will turn you restringing around very quickly right now. Unless you know someone.

From: COHOYTHUNTER
24-Oct-18
I had a rest (trophy taker smack down) that went goofy on me.. the barrel that the 'V' is attached to wouldn't stay tight where it was supposed to a caused an ever so slightly left/right POI issue.. but obviously the more the distance, the more the issue

From: elk yinzer
24-Oct-18
Never really felt the need for a backup bow before. Kinda getting it right now.

From: x-man
24-Oct-18
What rest do you have? Could be something wrong with the rest causing fletch contact. Is the fletching hitting the cable for some reason now?

Make an appointment to get new string & cables installed. Have the shop check the rest while they are replacing the string/cables. Check cable guard as well.

From: elk yinzer
24-Oct-18
QAD rest. I will get that looked at when I do the strings. I was thinking vane contact would throw off field points also?

From: Brotsky
24-Oct-18
Do you have access to a draw board? If so I would check cam timing and rest timing. Cam timing to insure both cams are hitting your stops at the same time and rest timing to insure it is getting out of the way of your arrow to eliminate fletching contact. Once those are verified check your cable slide to insure nothing has changed there.

24-Oct-18
Does your bow have a cable slide? Elite allows you to rotate the cable slide for tuning to get optimum tune. You can spin it back and forth until you find the sweet spot. Make sure that it’s screwed in tight my guess is Myb it moved and even the littlest bit of rotation on the slide can change POI majorly. Let me know if that helps. No one has suggested that yet. Assuming nothing has changed

From: JTV
24-Oct-18
it is a good possibility the QAD isnt dropping fast enough now and the vanes are contacting the rest, if the BH's catch air, they will plane more than FP's .... I had the cord of my Ace slip and I couldnt figure out why all of a sudden my BH's were low... I checked the timing marks on the rest when I came to full draw, and they were off, I reset the cord/timing and all was fine.. I added serving to the cord to prevent future slippage ..

From: Ironbow
24-Oct-18
I had a QAD that caused me a similar problem. It started hanging up and throwing arrows due to contact. It wasn't consistent and made me about pull my hair out trying to figure it out because it was sporadic.

From: Russell
24-Oct-18
Per QAD's tech support, make sure the activation cord is attached 4 1/2 - 5" below the rest.

From: GLP
24-Oct-18
You said you are considering a back up. Down side is you now have 2 bows to keep going. Upside is times like right now. After 30 years bow hunting I got rid of my back up, been nervous this year and will have another next year. Lots of good cheap bows and used ones. Hope things work out. Greg

From: Russell
24-Oct-18
Regarding backup bows, find the bow you like and own two of them.

From: JTV
24-Oct-18
I will never be without a back up bow... twice now, by having one it has save me when the main bow went down ...... both times I killed a big buck, so it pays to have a back up all set up ready to go... I shoot mine enough to be able to go from the main bow to it at a moments notice... it is set to go as I type this ... btw, the back up bow has a Whisker Biscuit Pro on it ...

From: Franklin
25-Oct-18
I had similar problems with a QAD....I was getting contact and couldn`t figure out if it wasn`t dropping or if it was rebounding. I took it off and problem solved.

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