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Lone wolf hang on which one?
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Contributors to this thread:
ryanrc 05-Nov-18
Slam38 05-Nov-18
DRR324 05-Nov-18
Trial153 05-Nov-18
ryanrc 05-Nov-18
JTV 05-Nov-18
JTV 05-Nov-18
JTV 05-Nov-18
JTV 05-Nov-18
JTV 05-Nov-18
JTV 05-Nov-18
ryanrc 05-Nov-18
Lee 05-Nov-18
JTV 05-Nov-18
JTV 05-Nov-18
JTV 06-Nov-18
DRR324 06-Nov-18
leftee 06-Nov-18
M.Pauls 06-Nov-18
pa10point 06-Nov-18
12yards 06-Nov-18
elkstabber 06-Nov-18
12yards 06-Nov-18
Ironbow 06-Nov-18
APauls 06-Nov-18
From: ryanrc
05-Nov-18
Alpha hang on 2 or Assault hang on 2. I would be hanging and hunting same day. No crazy far hikes or anything. I usually use my lone wolf hand climber, but some areas I like to hunt don't have any decent trees for a climber. Is the assault too small or is it big enough to maneuver around for different shots etc?

Thanks

From: Slam38
05-Nov-18
look up shug he has one for sale I believe

From: DRR324
05-Nov-18
Ryan, I have both. I really like the room on my alpha, but like the compact packing (lighter too) on longer treks with my assault. It does take a bit to get used to the smaller platorm after hunting a few days from the assault. Both are great stands, but if I had to pick one- i'd go with the assault. More versatile, lighter, more compact for hanging in tough spots, etc. You get used to the shuffle step to get feet set and ready for a shot.

From: Trial153
05-Nov-18
I have both, neither are light weight stands in my book. I think the assult is plenty big enough to hunt from. Generous? No. Big enough yea...

From: ryanrc
05-Nov-18
Thanks for the feedback so far guys. Is the smaller one big enough to lean around the tree if you need to make a shot? 3 pounds doesn't seem like a lot but then again it might make a big difference maneuvering it in a tree. DRR324, if you had to choose only one of your stands for a hunting season setting up and taking down daily, which would you choose?

From: JTV
05-Nov-18
I have the Alpha II, I wanted the extra room, esp. With winter boots ...Ive had it and 4 lw sticks since '13 ... love it ... I use the hook/strap to hang, then the other two straps to cinch tite ... ive never used the batwing bracket as I found it is easier to use the hook/strap ... never a problem hanging/leveling the stand ... I have extensions for the straps so I can go up larger trees and use the rope modifications on the sticks, which I prefer over the stick straps .... I use the game Plan belt support to pack it all in ... btw. I pack this in sometime well over a mile to locations,.... I wouldnt have any other stand to do this with ....

From: JTV
05-Nov-18

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05-Nov-18

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From: JTV
05-Nov-18
lone wolf stick modifications .. my 8mm ropes are 10 ft length for the bottom two ... 9 ft for the top two sticks...

From: JTV
05-Nov-18

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05-Nov-18

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my linemans rig I use... I wont hang a stand/stick without it ..

From: ryanrc
05-Nov-18
Thanks JTV. Where did you get the shoulder straps and belt for your stand? Is it a specific brand?. I could really use that for my climber too!

From: Lee
05-Nov-18
I like the alpha and have both. The compact size isn’t the issue, the assault needs a wider base against the tree. I can get it solid but it wants to wiggle. Alpha is like a rock. I feel safer in the alpha because of it

From: JTV
05-Nov-18
The Harness system was made by Game Plan Gear ..however, they went out of business ....however, XOP picked up the harness system and now sells them ... however, XOP is sold out untill 2019 says their web site ...

From: JTV
05-Nov-18
There are a few tricks when hanging the stand using the hook/strap that I use ...one is that I paint on rubber coat on the buckles, so they are quiet (er) if they hit the stand ... two, use 3 straps .. use the hook/strap to hang the stand, put up that strap first, then the lower strap and lift the platform slightly after setting its angle(its adjustable), and cinch the strap making sure the platform can still go down all the way, to tight and it wont go down all the way cause its to snug, but tight enough so there isnt any play.......last.. put on the center strap and pull as tight as possible ..

This is why the linemans harness is so important, as I can lean back, keeping my hands free and why I dont use the batwing bracket .... if its a large tree, that is what the extensions for the stand straps are for .. ... seems like it there was just another 6-12" on the straps, they'd be perfect then for most large trees and an extension wouldnt be needed....

From: JTV
06-Nov-18

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https://xopoutdoors.com/collections/packs-and-gear/products/xop-treestand-transport-system

From: DRR324
06-Nov-18
Daily setting up and taking down- definitely the assault. Smaller and easier to handle when putting up daily. Shooting the back side of a tree from it is tricky... I attach my sticks to it, then attach it to my Badlands pack using the clip/straps on the pack. Like JTV, I bungee outer wear to the stand on my serious trips in. Great stands, you know the quality, can't go wrong.

From: leftee
06-Nov-18
The old Assaults are best IMO.Second strap/verse button are unnecessary.If using the new ones I only use the top strap. I only use the Alphas if they are going to stay awhile.

From: M.Pauls
06-Nov-18
I have both. I usually go mobile with my assault. Having said that, when I pack my alpha I don’t think I ever knew I was packing a bigger stand. Maybe I should switch

From: pa10point
06-Nov-18
I have both and use the assault 90 percent of the time. I also use the hanging hook and replaced the straps with rope mods just like on my sticks. They are a little lighter and no buckles to worry about making noise. I don't think either one makes much difference as far as shooting behind you. I killed a buck yesterday that was chasing a doe and had to turn left and right 3 different times, never gave the stand a thought and had no trouble getting turned.

From: 12yards
06-Nov-18
If you aren't hiking in a long ways there's no reason to go with the Assault in my opinion. Sometimes I wish my Alpha was bigger when I'm bundled up with heavy clothes. I'm 6' and 210ish pounds in good shape.

From: elkstabber
06-Nov-18
According to the LW website:

Assault climber weighs 14# Alpha climber weighs 21#

From: 12yards
06-Nov-18
elkstabber, he's talking about hangons. The Alpha hangon is 14 pounds, the Assault is 11.

From: Ironbow
06-Nov-18
I have both and feel more comfortable in the Alpha, probably due to the wider base at the tree. It is rock solid. The Assault doesn't feel as solid, but still works fine.

From: APauls
06-Nov-18
3# difference between the two. I bought an alpha, and then have since bought two XOP equivalents. I like the size and don't care about 3#. That extra room for giant winter boots is nice. I really liked the hook that LW uses, but like the "spine" piece on the XOP as it is not tubular. So I just tied a loop of paracord on the top of my XOP stands and hook that onto the LW hook. Now I actually prefer that method to the LW cause there is zero sound. So I use 3 straps. 1 with hook, 2nd on top versa button, and 3rd on bottom versa button.

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