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Predator Fall Gray or Brown Deception?
Whitetail Deer
Contributors to this thread:
stick n string 17-Dec-18
t-roy 17-Dec-18
stick n string 17-Dec-18
stick n string 17-Dec-18
APauls 17-Dec-18
Fuzz 17-Dec-18
JTV 17-Dec-18
stick n string 17-Dec-18
Fuzz 17-Dec-18
stick n string 17-Dec-18
LBshooter 17-Dec-18
Robear 17-Dec-18
12yards 17-Dec-18
Bowbender 17-Dec-18
RD 17-Dec-18
Franklin 17-Dec-18
JTV 17-Dec-18
JTV 17-Dec-18
patdel 17-Dec-18
LBshooter 17-Dec-18
JLeMieux 17-Dec-18
midwest 17-Dec-18
craig@work 17-Dec-18
MichaelArnette 17-Dec-18
stick n string 17-Dec-18
Treeline 17-Dec-18
Zbone 17-Dec-18
Sam S 17-Dec-18
ground hunter 17-Dec-18
Will 17-Dec-18
Bigwoods 18-Dec-18
PECO 18-Dec-18
elkmo 18-Dec-18
Shug 18-Dec-18
Ironbow 18-Dec-18
stick n string 18-Dec-18
Fulldraw 18-Dec-18
rooster 19-Dec-18
timberdoodle 20-Dec-18
17-Dec-18
Trying to decide on which camo to get, I want to get some predator camo but I can’t decide between the fall gray and the brown deception. I do most of my hunting from the tree stands so I know the fall gray is better in that situation but every now and then I do hunt on the ground and the brown deception would be better.

Do any of you guys have these patterns and what are your thoughts as far as to weather whether it would make a difference to go with the brown one hunting in a tree stand over the gray.

I know movement is more important then camo, yada yada but I do believe the fall gray will help you get a deer to relax after seeing you move in a tree stand I just worry that the gray can hurt you on the ground as much as it helps you in the stand.

From: t-roy
17-Dec-18
Have you reached out to bowriter, Justin? I believe he was instrumental in R&D on this pattern. I think he’s busy doing research on CWD right now, but maybe when he gets a free minute, he’ll chime in here.

17-Dec-18
He’ll prob say what i would do is.....

17-Dec-18
I see my answer got deleted somehow, but i will just leave it as it is

From: APauls
17-Dec-18
For trees I like Fall grey a hair better than brown deception. Either is a tremendous pattern, the brown just has more dark in it I think. The 3D deception is also great. Favourite patterns out there hands down.

From: Fuzz
17-Dec-18
I'll be following this thread... been thinking about dumping the string on some Fall Grey.

From: JTV
17-Dec-18
I use my Fall Gray as soon as temps start to drop and it gets cold, usually around Halloween... the Deception would be better earlier.... But, I have used Fall Gray even with leaves on and changing if it was cold enough.. the deer killed never knew I was up there ... Fall Gray excels in late season and snow ... I use for Coyote also, snow or no snow ... ..

17-Dec-18
I have some scent lock vertigo camo and absolutely love it. That camo pattern has saved me several times when the deer caught a little bit of movement and looked at me but if you stay still they will sometimes forget about you. But there were a couple times this season where because of the wind or for another reason I decided to sit on the ground instead of climb a tree and I just felt like that white in the open pattern was hurting me. Because of that, sometimes I feel like I have to climb a tree when that’s the camo I have with me. If I plan to hunt the ground I can take my other stuff but I don’t always plan that, sometimes it pops up.

My vertigo stuff is starting to wear out and it’s just time to get some new stuff. I’m on the fence and can’t get myself to decide which way is better to go

From: Fuzz
17-Dec-18
Stick n string.... I'm also a big fan of the vertigo pattern but it too darn "squeaky" and drives me nuts. Mine's about worn out also and gonna need replacing.

17-Dec-18
Agree 100% there Fuzz

From: LBshooter
17-Dec-18
Easy answer, go buy some ASAT. If you don't want that then either one will work and if majority of your hunting is in trees go with the grey.

From: Robear
17-Dec-18
I like the fall grey better. I have both patterns and for whatever reason, I have very rarely been busted in the grey when scent wasn't an issue.

From: 12yards
17-Dec-18
I've worn all manner of camo in trees and never noticed a difference in the "deer busted me rate" for any particular camo.

From: Bowbender
17-Dec-18

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Fall Grey. I do have some Fall Brown, but my go to has been Fall Grey.

Edit. This is a picture my son took of me, from his ladder stand about 15 yards away.

From: RD
17-Dec-18
Fall grey! I've had so many deer look through me so many times and then ignore me that is all use. I've also used it on the prairies of Wyoming and SD and like my buddy says "disappear" into the landscape.

From: Franklin
17-Dec-18
I like the fall grey but you won`t go wrong with either. ASAT is so God awful busy I just can`t get myself to buy it. If they got rid of some of those black "sickles" I would consider it.

The one I have been looking hard at are the lighter patterns at Scheels. There are 2 that are really nice camo patterns. I would have to look up the name but that is probably my next choice.

From: JTV
17-Dec-18

JTV's embedded Photo
JTV's embedded Photo
As I said... Fall Gray ..

From: JTV
17-Dec-18

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JTV's embedded Photo

From: patdel
17-Dec-18
I really like the fall grey. Even if they see me moving, they usually just kind of go back about their routine.

I had 5 different bucks around me the day I shot my deer this year. A mature buck watched me shoot his buddy. Then he watched me fish another arrow out of the quiver, and move around trying to get another shot. He never did figure out what I was, and never spooked. 20 yards, looking right at me.

I just dont seem to get busted in that stuff. Never tried any of the other patterns you mentioned.

But it beats the blobby realtree, mossy oak and sitka patterns with a big giant stick. Especially in a tree.

From: LBshooter
17-Dec-18
Easy answer, go buy some ASAT. If you don't want that then either one will work and if majority of your hunting is in trees go with the grey.

From: JLeMieux
17-Dec-18
I have the Brown Deception and really like it.

From: midwest
17-Dec-18
Who's making good hunting clothing with the Predator camo option?

From: craig@work
17-Dec-18
I did not like the fall gray. It was warm & quiet but I felt like I got busted more with it. Went back to asat which I love.

17-Dec-18
Fall Grey!!

17-Dec-18
I went brown deception. There’s no doubt in my mind it fall gray is the Best option and a fantastic camo went hunting out of the tree stand. But the brown deception look like to me I won’t have to lose much concealment whether I’m in the tree or on the ground with it and the fall gray is just not as good a fit for hunting on the ground. I appreciate the time and the effort from anybody who responded. Greatly appreciated!

From: Treeline
17-Dec-18
Day One and Grey Wolf Woolens make good stuff in Predator Fall Grey.

From: Zbone
17-Dec-18
I like all three - grey, brown and green of the Predator original patterns, and have a Deception heater body suit... I actually mix depending on weather of what weight garment needed and if deer are color blind, don't think it really matters of original colors, but like the green for spring turkey... So if I had to chose only one color would be the spring green...

Am less into camo now and wear just about anything earth toned, so haven't bought camo in years but last batch I bought was ASAT and like it... Also bought Sitka gloves and hat but and like those also but can't afford their other stuff...

From: Sam S
17-Dec-18
I own both Fall grey and brown deception in their stealth fleece I usually wear the fall grey pant and deception jacket or vice versa I just like to mix it up in my mind seems to help My son bought the new Micro stealth fleece in brown deception this year im still not sold on it seems slighty noisy Either choice you cant go wrong

17-Dec-18
the deer do not care,,,, geesh

From: Will
17-Dec-18
Both is the correct answer. But I'm bad to ask, I have spring green, fall gray, fall brown, brown deception, and evolution options of predator. Yes, it's a sickness. But if I could only get one, I'd get deception - if you are going to use it earlier in the season etc. Why? I dont think the deer are to impacted one way or the other, but if there is a chance that you could have other humans around... Or may use it for Turkey hunting or ground hunting earlier in the season... Deception is more all purpose.

So if it's only one, deception. If it's only mid-late season treestand, fall gray.

From: Bigwoods
18-Dec-18
ASAT

From: PECO
18-Dec-18
If I were out east, I would go with the grey.

From: elkmo
18-Dec-18
I agree with ground hunter...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHjQCDKBx8

From: Shug
18-Dec-18
Keep an eye on camofire.com it comes up often enough ... cheap enough that you can buy a couple patterns for the price of one

From: Ironbow
18-Dec-18
I have always felt like camo should keep you hidden. If an animal picks you off and stares you down, and eventually decides you are not a danger and goes on, I don't feel like the camo did it's job. The fact you didn't move is what worked. The camo should have kept you from being spotted in the first place.

I have worn a lot of different camo from Treebark, Realtree, Mossy Oak, ect that looked like bushes and trees and certain patterns in certain situations worked OK, but I would often get spotted and the stare down would begin. Usually, as long as I didn't move, the animal would go on it's way, sometimes keeping an eye on me. I really don't like that.

When I started wearing Predator, which at first I didn't think would work and only wore it based on Marc Barger's recommendation as the designer, I was blown away. Animals quit looking at me, if they did it was a mere glance without the stare down. Found on occasion I could even get away with slight movements! Nothing I had ever worn allowed me to do that.

I loved the original Fall Brown, but have had excellent success with Fall Gray. I have also used the Spring Green and the Evolution pattern, which I think is mostly gone now. I really liked it for a sticks and limbs type camo. I no longer worry about being spotted even in the late season in open trees with Fall Gray. I have tried ASAT, but in the late season I get the stare down in naked trees I never get with Predator.

Never tried the Deception. For some reason I just didn't like it, maybe because it replaced the Fall Brown. I think it would work OK, just have not tried it. Been using Predator for 22 years, and can't see myself changing.

18-Dec-18
Elkmo, thanks for the video link. That clown show was tremendously helpful.....

Appreciate the ACTUAL help from those of you that offered your opinions on the actual question asked

From: Fulldraw
18-Dec-18
Both, some spring green, and some ASAT. MIX IT UP

From: rooster
19-Dec-18
Camo fire just had predator fleece pants (don't remember the price) which I didn't buy, Then a couple of days later they had the matching jackets for like $50.00. I sprung for the jacket and now I'm hoping the pants will make it back to their sight. For what it's worth I bought fall grey as I have always felt it is one of the best out there.

From: timberdoodle
20-Dec-18
Agree with full draw - mix it up. Does anyone know why they ever stopped making the fall brown? That was my favorite if I would've had to choose only 1.

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