We have the points to draw and I'm pretty sure he is onboard, although I'm not holding my breath for him to give up his elk photo trips in Colorado and the Tetons. Even if he doesn't pack his bow much or at all I hope to have him with us on one last good elk hunt!
Im hoping some of you that have hunted 38-9 in the past may share your thoughts and stories of the unit. Any info you may be willing to share would be a huge help in making the tough decision to cash in our points on what will most likely be a once in a lifetime hunt!
Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas!!!
Also curious how 38 compares to 39, 45 and 54 as far as they type of terrain and hunting.
Looking forward to seeing what you guys decide to do Cody !!!
Cody, you know darn well Bill won't put the camera down to shoot an elk! lol
Best of luck and looking forward to the pics and stories!
It is beautiful country, very accessible in most places with roads throughout, but with several areas that are back in far enough to escape other hunters with a little effort.
The bulls are there and September is by far the best time to hunt them. They are not giant but expect to see bulls from 280-330. (Bigger ones are taken every year.)
I have somewhat kept up with the area and do not think things have changed much since I was there.
The Bighorns are beautiful, not as rough as the Rockies, and there are no wolves.
In short, IMO worth spending the points and pulling the tag.
I hope we can make this happen!
Truly any help you could give us would be greatly appreciated.
I most likely will be doing it just to keep those youngsters from getting hurt!
Have a great bow hunt and thanks for any and all help. BB
And when I get some time, I would like to tell the story about the deer photo that Cody posted. It's pretty funny! Merry Christmas to all. Bill
How else are they going get an elk close enough for a shot!
C3 hit the nail on the head!!! Nothing I want more then to hunt bulls one more time with my best friend!
On a side not Pete reached out to me and we are thinking about getting some of this hunt on Video and maybe all of us can get a little insight on what has made my dad and your BB tick. I can tell you all that don't know him or have never had that chance to hunt with him, his passion runs deep and their are very few who have been as successful as he because success in the woods is so much more then a harvest. He is as true and sincere as they come and I am blessed to have him as a dad and grandfather to my boys. I can't wait for this fall and hope this final chapter on elk hunting with "BB" has saved the best for last.
Thank you all and Merry Christmas!!!
PS. Pops you had better dig that old bow out and start flinging some arrows again! I love you
Anyway to the photo that Cody posted of the small four point mule deer. I would guess that was about when Cody was 7 or 8 years old. We were hunting an area that I had hunted for years, and knew it reasonably well. My brother in law worked with a guy named Shane, and had an elk permit in this same area, on a hunt that opened later. I had never meant Shane but had heard a lot about him though Kevin, my brother in law. He said we were two peas in a pod.
So before I went on my deer hunt, Shane had called me and as if he could meet out there prior to when his hunt opened and let me show him around a bit. I had been out there for a week or 10 days when Shane showed up and only had a few days left before I had to get Cody home for the beginning of School. We had arranged a place and time to meet, and after we returned to camp from an evening hunt, Shane was there.
I told Shane I wanted to hunt the morning hunt and then we would be back about 10 or so and I would take him to some areas where I usually saw elk. We spent a the balance of the morning and a good portion of the afternoon with Shane showing a few different places. Finally it getting late enough we needed to get back to do the evening hunt.
On our way back Shane looked up a steep hill and saw the buck that's in the picture, laying in some oak brush near the top of a ridge. He stopped his truck and glassed and said something like this. "Boy he's in tough spot and would be impossible to get with a bow wouldn't he." And me being a big BS er, said, "Oh no, he would be a piece of cake to kill if you wanted him!" And Shane ask me how I would do it. I told him exactly what I would do, and exactly what the buck deer would do, and where I would hit him, and where he would run and die. He just shook his head and said, "Let's see you did it!" So I got out of the truck on the far side, slipped down the hill so the buck couldn't see me and then made tracks to where I finally came out above him on the ridge. There was a big pine tree on the ridge and I had told Shane I would come out there, and the buck would stand up, take a couple of steps forward, and that I would put an arrow right through his heart. And he would run down the hill about 60 yards and pile up. I said to Shane, when I was just filling him full of bull, that he and Cody could sit there and see the whole thing happen cause it would be so easy. That's when he said he wanted to see me do it.
So I came out at the pine tree, the buck stood up, took a couple steps forward, I put an arrow right through his heart, and he ran exactly where I told Shane he would run, and dropped over dead in Shane and Cody's sight!
Shane and I became good friends and we bowhunted together for many years. It did take long once he started hunting with me for me to loose that first impression I made upon him that afternoon.
Have a great bow hunt. BB
Thanks for all those who reached out! I truly appreciate it and can't wait to hopefully spend some quality time chasing bulls with my hero. I will cherish this hunt so much and still have a few little things planned that could just make it that much better! I hope in a month we can start our planning with tags in our pockets!
You guys are blessed. Enjoy your time with your dad. He is an even better man than bowhunter.
Looking forward to hearing the story of the adventure!
Pretty sure those old Snuffers will still work just fine even with a lower draw weight bow and lighter arrows. Killed a pile of elk with 425-450 grain arrows tipped with Snuffers and launched from longbows! Probably at lower velocity from my 57 to 70# longbows than his “blushing weight” compound! One year I had 3 complete pass thru’s on bull elk with 425 grain Snuffer tipped arrows off of my 57# homemade longbow!
Snuffer magic, BB!
He won't be shooting snuffers on this hunt. He moved to VPA's and harvested his last couple animals with them. His setup will be a Bowtech Realm pulling about 50lbs with beman hunter pro .340 arrows and a Vpa 150 grain 3 blade COC head. His total arrow weight is right at 470 grains.
I want to thank Jeff as well, I know he looks at my pops as a second dad himself but he was more then willing to do everything he could to make this trip come together! He even went as far as getting a new wall tent/stove for this hunt! Once we find out if we did indeed draw I will start a new thread that will continue to document this hunt. I hope to share our scouting and prep work leading into this hunt and getting my soon to be 79 year old man shooting a stick and string again. Once the hunt is over I hope he will take the thread over and document it like he has in the past, I was passed along (from my mom) much better looks, higher IQ, funnier, and again much better looks (it's not hard to be better looking then him) but he has a way to tell a story that I can't! He also will have his camera in tow....
Thanks everyone for all the support, I truly appreciate it and look forward to sharing this experience with all of you! Bowhunting elk in Wyoming with the infamous BB and more importantly my pops...........can't get much better then that!
Of the animals I have been lucky enough to harvest all but one came from a Snuffer tipped arrow.
I will start a new thread about the hunt when the ball gets rolling!
To say I am excited to share an elk camp with Jeff and my Dad in Wyoming would be an understatement!
Time to get to work!!! Going to be a great hunt!
Isn't that redundant? Open to interpretation as to how... ;)
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Good luck to the Allards.
I’m sure you would be able to capture some some amazing memories. Even just to capture stories around the campfire in the evening.
Gotta believe that the fire will be burning hot when BB gets up in the hills with his son and he will likely forget that he ever even had a camera:-).
The elk are in trouble!
Good luck men