Summit Treestands
Sangre's/Flat tops/San Juans = Worthless
Mule Deer
Contributors to this thread:
Jahvada 02-Jan-19
Medicinemann 02-Jan-19
Ucsdryder 02-Jan-19
Jahvada 02-Jan-19
Kurt 02-Jan-19
Jahvada 02-Jan-19
Jahvada 02-Jan-19
Treeline 02-Jan-19
Buglmin 02-Jan-19
Spookinelk 02-Jan-19
Glunt@work 02-Jan-19
Mule Power 03-Jan-19
Treeline 03-Jan-19
Ermine 04-Jan-19
Treeline 04-Jan-19
Highway Star 04-Jan-19
Firsty 04-Jan-19
NorCalVineyards 04-Jan-19
Treeline 04-Jan-19
From: Jahvada
02-Jan-19

Jahvada's Link
Man the CPW is attempting to screw archery hunters with this change. Pay attention to about page 229...

http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Commission/2019/January/Item.10-Final-Chapter.W-2.pdf

With the change most units in the Sangres, San Juans, and Flat Tops will be worthless to archery guys. Or what I have seen is things change after guys with 1000+ yd rifles start banging away above timberline. To start one of these hunts the same day as archery in entire mountain ranges is total bs....

Sad to see the direction of cpw..

From: Medicinemann
02-Jan-19
The document only goes to page 219

From: Ucsdryder
02-Jan-19
It took me a while to find it but they have an early deer rifle season that starts the same day as archery season for elk and deer.

From: Jahvada
02-Jan-19
Most all the mule deer archery seasons got moved back from the 25th to the 31 st of August. Or not ideal if you like to hunt deer with a bow..

Page 80 lines out what units the 1000 yd "shooters" will be banging away the on the same opening day as archery.

From: Kurt
02-Jan-19
Didn't CO archery elk and mule deer west of I-25 open on the last Saturday in August for the past many years (after we lost the mid-August opener way back when and a couple of weeks of season cutting it back to 30 days). Maybe the season has rotated back to an August 31 opener this year because it's the last Saturday in August...which will please a lot of elk hunters as the season will run longer in September? Just speculating, as i didn't read 219 or 229 pages of proposed season info....don't hunt CO now-a-days.

From: Jahvada
02-Jan-19
Kurt you are right the seasons structure is the later dates for archery this year..

The difference is that a quite a few units have the recommendation to have high country rifle hunts moved up to the same day archery starts.

Having archery start the same day as rifle season will = archery guys competing with guys toting 1200 yd pea shooters. Or with the way guys shoot fair to say it will make things a bit more challenging for archery guys.. That is when we are not ducking bullets lol..

From: Jahvada
02-Jan-19
double post

From: Treeline
02-Jan-19
Have ducked bullets in the Holy Cross once. Do not want to do that again...

From: Buglmin
02-Jan-19
These early season timberline hunts for mule deer has been going on for several years now. We have no early season timberline hunts for mule deer down here, wish we did though. And most of the guys I know that draw these tags aren't no 1000 yard rifle hunters, but serious mule deer hunters that don't shoot 1000 yard rifles. Kinda think this whole thing is getting blown outa proportion and a way to gripe at the long range shooters.

From: Spookinelk
02-Jan-19
The early above timberline deer seasons are pretty limited, 30 tags for unit 82, chances of running into a rifle hunter are pretty slim in a unit that is 75 miles north to south.... I know I don't worry about it in 82.

From: Glunt@work
02-Jan-19
I have hunted one of these units but always before rifle started. The spot I go is delicate and it doesn't take much to empty the basin of deer for a few days. I would skip if I couldn't get in before rifle.

From: Mule Power
03-Jan-19
It doesn’t make a difference in Wyoming. It’s not like they’ll be “banging away”. More like glassing away.

I find the elk to he lower than any deer worth shooting.

From: Treeline
03-Jan-19
For it elk makes little difference.

It definitely tends to run a lot of deer out of basins though.

30 tags in the Sanger’s is not a lot, however you can figure that those 30 rifle guys will ge into about 30 basins and blow the bucks out. Guess a bowhunter can always get lucky and be in the right basin that the gun guys aren’t in.

Rare to have bigger bucks put up with any pressure at all.

The early rifle seasons used to be either the week of muzzle loader or the week before. Had rifle hunters complain that they were not seeing the numbers of deer they expected and that they had to compete with bowhunters and muzzle loaders. CPw changed up the early rifle buck hunt schedules. This year with the archery season slid back so far, the rifle hunt starts the same day as archery in some units.

From: Ermine
04-Jan-19
So they are making new units into early rifle units? Or the existing high country rifle units just start earlier this year?

From: Treeline
04-Jan-19
Justin,

I don't think that these are new rifle hunts, I think the scheduled start for archery season moved back like it normally does. For some reason the early rifle season moved up. So, for this year, the early rifle season starts the same day as archery deer.

Usually, the rifle seasons don't start till a week after the start of archery so you get at least one week of archery deer hunting before the rifle hunters blow out the basins.

Starting the same day will suck for archery deer hunters in those units.

From: Highway Star
04-Jan-19
He is right stay out of these units it wont be an good;)

From: Firsty
04-Jan-19
I kinda like the rifle tags starting that early....just a little friendly competition. You bowhunt for the challenge right?

04-Jan-19
I would give these units less consideration for sure if the rifles hunts started at the same time. Bull shit if you ask me.

From: Treeline
04-Jan-19
Yeah, Firsty, maybe to skewer one of those orange pumpkins...

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