From lone wolf customs...totally different company at this point.
I havent seen if lone wolf tree stands put out anything new. They have some models on there website that the claim arent going to be in stock for 2019...either they have new products coming out or they are going under.
I have a Millenium M7, that is 7lbs..... the only thing I do not like about it, is the hanging system, but I like the weight. I use that presently with xop sticks,,,,, I also like the xop vanish.............
However, this is a lot of innovation, and looks pretty cool
New gear rarely intrigues me these days. Nothing earth shattering here but I am definitely interested in some of these tweaks over my current lone wolf system. I will be waiting to hear about the rope system as well as I’d like to see it set up with the longer sticks. I’m not sure if it was strategic that he never showed that, as I’m assuming it doesn’t look nearly as slick. Is there no seat cushion? I also understand the the seat can carry a small pack, but the logic seams a little reverse, I’d like my pack carrying my stand! Pending on some of these little details I would consider sellong two current lone wolf setups to pay for one of these if I’m just off and these things were thought of
The cost is kind of crazy. 4 short sticks with tax will be a grand. I can use my original LW sticks or the Gorilla sticks and my Chippewa Wedge Loc Stands and carry only about a pound more and do it for under 5 bucks. I will admit if all you are gonna do is hang and hunts than it would be the cats ass! Shawn
so, I MUST run out and drop a grand ??!! (not !!).......... Ive got a good set up with the Alpha II/4 LW Sticks ...... I'm sure they'll get some to jump on the band wagon ... hell, I pack in my setup/gear to a mile or more now, but it dosnt look like one can use the rope option on the sticks either, your stuck with the straps (see below, a rope option is available).... .... but, more power to 'em if they sell some... heck, prolly sell a lot ... lol ......
for those with deep pockets ;0) ... does look good, just out of my cash range ... considering I have 2 chippy wedge locks, and 20+ other portables in my attic, along with the LW Alpha II/4sticks and 2 climbers ....lol .... he did say a rope option for the sticks is available...good Idea there
Well I think we have been so accustomed to so much made in China etc, that we fail to understand, the expense of items made here in the USA,,, plus the innovations of the design, the engineering and thought process, gets the price up there that is for sure....
If I was 35 and not 70, I would be all over it,,,,, depends on your priority etc,,,,, great design in my opinion, and for a serious mobile hunter I could easily justify the cost,,,,,
Just look at what some guys spend on clothing, and hunts alone,,,,,, I wish Andre well..... I really like Cody and am an xop fan
with most quality bows around grand or more, this stand/stick system and if a guy goes with the better higher end clothing/boots and bow/hunting accessories, a hunter can tie up $3000 easily ..... I guess that is why I still use my Allegiance and the Alpha II/4 reg. LW sticks .... this is not a poor mans game any longer ..... not that I'm poor, but ......
The price is to rich for me, I learned this year a good pack frame eliminates the need for me to find a lighter sticks and stand.
Let's look at the whole picture here for a minute. The guy that originally invented lonewolf stand created a great company and then sales for a great profit I assume. Then turns around and helps his son build a company selling basically cheap foreign made knockoffs.
Now he creates yet another company even using lonewolf name.
Got to really suck for the guys that bought the original lonewolf company from him. Bet they wish they would of had a better contract that would of kept him from ever going back in business.
1. The guys that bought Lone Wolf are a group of lawyers, no? Good luck suing a group of lawyers for infringing on a patent for a common everyday manufacturing process.
2. It looked to me that the “new” Lone Wolf did not have much innovation without the original inventor at the helm. I took the Andre “custom” collection was LW hiring him back basically as a technical consultant. The stand and sticks look worth the money from here. Love my Lone Wolves and am glad they have something new and innovative to offer.
Brilliant. You get what you pay for. After buying and hating a tree saddle (that I bought for back country Coues hunting), this seems perfect for a back country mobile system. I'm on a Coues hunt right now and I'm not hunting the back country because it's just too much work to get camp and a stand/blind 3-5 miles from the road for a deer hunt in the middle of the winter.
Something to keep in mind. The weights listed are without straps and and seat cushions. When you figure them in and the fact that the stand is slightly heavier then stated it brings it way closer to the lone wolf assult weight.
I also just bought a Lone wolf climber that had stated weight of 17 pounds and took it out of the box and weighted it. 19.5 pounds.
Seems like telling the truth is a problem with the old and new lone wolf companies
Trial153 if you assume that then you have to assume it for every brand out there so the stated weight savings should be accurate with that thought, I to have a line wolf stand and sticks and don’t really care for the seat so I purchased a millenium m100u and after the ratchet reciever weight I was at 15.6 lbs on the stand alone so the lone wolf didn’t seem to bad to me plus after all said and done my entire lone wolf set up stand and 4 sticks only exceeded advertised weight by about a pound and a half.