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AZ Youth Hunt question
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Contributors to this thread:
Scoot 22-Jan-19
Coyote 65 22-Jan-19
Wishedhead 25-Jan-19
lineman21 25-Jan-19
Heat 25-Jan-19
Scoot 25-Jan-19
Heat 25-Jan-19
Lee 25-Jan-19
From: Scoot
22-Jan-19
I just noticed that the youth hunts in AZ are "any weapon" hunts. I saw some are in early Oct and some later (5th and 21st as start dates, if I remember correctly). My son has no interest in hunting with a gun. If I did an elk hunt with him in Oct, how likely would be be to have a decent hunt and hear/see rutting activity? I don't want to bring him on a hunt where he won't have a reasonable chance to hear bugling bulls.

I know bulls will bugle in Oct and really all year long. But the question about is really about the likelihood of him having a good hunt and hearing some bulls talking. Any help appreciated.

From: Coyote 65
22-Jan-19
It depends, some years they shut up early, other years I have heard bugling as late as Thanksgiving. Who knows why? This last year the Mrs. had a cow tag late Oct. Did not hear one bugle. Had a early bull rifle tag in 2017 that ran from the last day in Sept till Oct 5th and the bulls were still bugling.

If you get the early Oct. hunt there should be some bulls still bugling.

Terry

From: Wishedhead
25-Jan-19
Make sure to apply him for points. Time flys. My oldest is a senior and has 9 points now. Can’t wait til he has time to cash them in

From: lineman21
25-Jan-19
At what age can I start applying my son in Arizona?

From: Heat
25-Jan-19
Scott,

I think the chance to hear some bugling bulls is "reasonable" but the rut will not be going like it is in September. I have been on a few of the general hunts for cow that occur a week later than the youth hunts and have heard bugling bulls. Not every night, but definitely some activity. If a cow comes into estrous late or re-cycles because it was not bred on the 1st go round, rut activity could take place. This is spotty activity. Right place at the right time kind of thing. Another thing to take a look at is the odds. I would suspect odds are much better for an archery antlerless permit during the rut in many of the units than the youth general hunts. Those youth hunts can be tough to draw.

Lineman21,

10 is the earliest you can apply a youth for Big Game.

Good Luck guys!

From: Scoot
25-Jan-19
Thanks guys! My son is 14 and will get his 4th point this year. Heat, he could have drawn one of the youth hunts this year and next year will likely have enough points for another one or two. Required points for youth are reasonably low as far as I can tell (unless I'm misunderstanding something).

Dang, I was afraid the answers would be exactly as they are. My guess is that on average it'll be a week or two later than I wish it would be. I wish there was a youth archery option (or two). But, I'm not trying to be a whiner here- I'm impressed AZ has youth opportunities at all and I'm happy they exist. My son is an archery only kid though, so he won't pick up a gun to hunt animals (except an occasional coyote!)

From: Heat
25-Jan-19
All the youth hunts start on the 11th of Oct. Some last a bit longer than others. Those are likely the areas that are harder to get it done or don't have a general antlerless hunt immediately after. Your son will be at a huge disadvantage using a bow on a hunt where everybody else will be banging away with a rifle. To each his own. Again, I would really look more at the archery only hunts for a better overall experience and possibly even better odds.

From: Lee
25-Jan-19
Scoot - my 14 year old daughter (at the time) drew a late AZ muzzleloader tag. We had a great hunt and she killed a very nice 6x7 bull but it was not what I would consider elk hunting. We were basically deer hunting as there was no bugling. Now I just put the kids in for early rifle or just points depending on the year so one day we will have a great rut hunt. Don’t get me wrong she had a lot of fun as did I but having bowhunted the rut multiple times it was just not the same. It’s not all about the kill.

Lee

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