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Havalon or Outdoor Edge Razor lite?
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Contributors to this thread:
COHOYTHUNTER 13-Feb-19
HUNT MAN 13-Feb-19
JohnMC 13-Feb-19
Nick Muche 13-Feb-19
Ambush 13-Feb-19
IdyllwildArcher 13-Feb-19
otcWill 13-Feb-19
Shug 13-Feb-19
Charlie Rehor 13-Feb-19
jdee 13-Feb-19
WapitiBob 13-Feb-19
PushCoArcher 13-Feb-19
Ucsdryder 13-Feb-19
Dirk Diggler 13-Feb-19
Bou'bound 13-Feb-19
Stekewood 13-Feb-19
Ermine 13-Feb-19
Panther Bone 13-Feb-19
westslope 13-Feb-19
Franklin 14-Feb-19
t-roy 14-Feb-19
Native Okie 14-Feb-19
Bou'bound 14-Feb-19
Scar Finga 14-Feb-19
caribou77 14-Feb-19
ground hunter 14-Feb-19
elkstabber 14-Feb-19
pikemaster 14-Feb-19
Brotsky 14-Feb-19
APauls 14-Feb-19
ground hunter 14-Feb-19
smarba 14-Feb-19
Surfbow 14-Feb-19
kota-man 14-Feb-19
Timbrhuntr 14-Feb-19
Mt. man 14-Feb-19
GBTG 14-Feb-19
leftee 14-Feb-19
Ucsdryder 14-Feb-19
AlleninNM 14-Feb-19
smarba 14-Feb-19
Mule Power 14-Feb-19
JRABQ 14-Feb-19
Matt 15-Feb-19
Rob Nye 15-Feb-19
Medicinemann 15-Feb-19
Striker@home 15-Feb-19
COHOYTHUNTER 15-Feb-19
rattling_junkie 15-Feb-19
goelk 15-Feb-19
Tyler 19-Feb-19
ohiohunter 19-Feb-19
From: COHOYTHUNTER
13-Feb-19
Curious what you guys prefer. I have both. Only ever used the outdoor edge. The havalon always felt too flimsy to me. But I like the idea that you can now get a gut hook and saw attachment blade for the havalon. When I used the outdoor edge, it was sufficient, however, it seem the blades dulled quickly and it was kinda a pain to clean blood and tissue out of the nooks and crannies. but it did feel sturdy

From: HUNT MAN
13-Feb-19
I have used nothing but a havalon for the past 7 years. Little learning curve but once you figure out how much pressure you can put on the blade your golden. Little tip for changing the old blades out. Use the new blade to pry and flip off the old blade. Changing blades is what will get ya. Hunt

From: JohnMC
13-Feb-19
Never used the Outdoor Edge but I am a big fan of the havalon. I've been using for years. I do carry a heavier knife for cutting around bone and such. But for skinning it is hard to beat.

From: Nick Muche
13-Feb-19
Havalon for me. Let the blade do the work and it’s a great tool. Rarely ever use anything else.

From: Ambush
13-Feb-19
I have and usually carry both. The Havalon is definitely sharper and will do most tasks once you realize it’s not a prying instrument. Easily do a whole moose with a few blades. I prefer the Razorlite when cutting knees, knuckles and boning.

I sharpen the new blades on the Razorlite and resharpen them after use. Then it’s a good knife. Too dull otherwise and no advantage over any other sharp blade.

13-Feb-19
I've used both. There's little difference, but I like the low profile of Havalon's knife and packages of replacement blades and the ability to carry enough blades for the hunt in the fabric pouch. I'm not well past 10 animals skinned/boned out in a row without breaking a blade and I sever all 4 shanks at the joint so that's 8 joints per animal too.

From: otcWill
13-Feb-19
I have both. The havalon blades are slightly sharper than the OE. The OE razor pro has the swing blade on it (not replaceable) and this thing is the most useful tool for skinning/caping I've used. It slides right through hide like nothing in one stroke when used at the correct angle. I usually carry both as I'm not an ounce counter and they both shine in their own areas. If I could only carry one it'd be the OE razor pro.

From: Shug
13-Feb-19
Havalon for me...one deciding factor was you can buy the blades from a Taxidermy supply

13-Feb-19
Both for me too. I re-sharpen the Razor Lite blades also. I use the gutting blade a lot too so I can go fast. Not sure exactly why but I like going fast:)

I like the Havalon for caping around the face and antlers.

From: jdee
13-Feb-19
I use both and like both of them. With the Havalon you need to use the 60A blades they are thicker than the older 60 blades. I always carry a new pack or two with me hunting , if it seems to be getting dull a new one goes on. It only cost 10 bucks for a dozen new blades.

From: WapitiBob
13-Feb-19
Havalon, a toothbrush cleans them up quickly.

From: PushCoArcher
13-Feb-19
I've used both prefer the havalon.

From: Ucsdryder
13-Feb-19
Cleaning Havalon is simple. Soak in a glass with dish soap and hot water for a couple hours. Then rinse off. I usually end up breaking a blade an animal, usually when the blade starts to dull. I love the Havalon.

From: Dirk Diggler
13-Feb-19
Havalon the past 5yrs. Can skin, quarter, and debone an elk or two with a single blade. Weighs a few ounces with 10 blades and no sharpener required. $30 for 100 60xt blades or 50 60a blades. Throw it in the dishwasher when I get home. Won't ever own a different knife for field care. Keep a flip assist in my pocket I can get to quick should the horses get tangled or have a need for a stouter blade for camp chores.

From: Bou'bound
13-Feb-19
Havalon hands down

From: Stekewood
13-Feb-19
Havalon for me too.

From: Ermine
13-Feb-19

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Iron Will knife. Weighs 1 oz. Tough and holds an edge

The Tyto knife is nice too. Lightweight. Uses same blades as Havalon but a fixed blade

13-Feb-19
Havalon always. It’s a great trout cleaning tool too.

Always have a fixed blade if I’m camping in the woods overnight, though.

From: westslope
13-Feb-19
I switched to the Outdoor Edge this year after using Havalon for the past 6-7 years. I wanted a scalpel sharp replaceable blade with a sturdier feel. I have not yet used the Outdoor Edge but like the feel in my hand, feels solid. I had a scare last year when a Havalon blade broke off inside the animal, when I put my hand inside to retrieve the heart I cut my finger badly on the blade that had broken off inside. It scared me and It could have been a much worse situation but I got lucky. Granted, I have been using the same Havalon for many years and maybe the more recent models have better blade attachment, I dont know. I think Havalons are great and definitely serve a need, but I was ready to change it up.

From: Franklin
14-Feb-19
The hot new kid on the block is the "Gerber Vital"....it uses the Havalon scalpel blade but the handle has some new features that is missing on the original Havalon. One has to do with a safer blade exchange feature.

From: t-roy
14-Feb-19
Havalon fan here as well. Be sure and get the #60A blades. They are a bit thicker and not as prone to break.

From: Native Okie
14-Feb-19
I have both but if I had to choose, OE. A lot more ass behind that knife which I like.

From: Bou'bound
14-Feb-19
and having a knife with ass behind it is a key factor.

From: Scar Finga
14-Feb-19
BOU'

My Thoughts exactly... LOL

OE for me, the Havalon always felt to flimsy and I like the handle and blade exchange way better.

From: caribou77
14-Feb-19
Outdoor edge for me. Just one note either remove the blade and clean it right away after use or you run the risk of the blade getting stuck in it. Which is an easy fix soaking it in warm water.

14-Feb-19
I have both,,, got the OE Lite for Christmas,,,, they both work well

From: elkstabber
14-Feb-19
Another happy Havalon guy. Until Franklin suggested the Gerber Vital. It looks like the Gerber Vital folding knife (1.3 ounces and uses the Havalon blades) is similar to the Havalon but safer because it has a little button that helps change the blade. Changing the blade is the only drawback to the Havalon.

From: pikemaster
14-Feb-19
For all you guys using the Havalon do your self a favor and get the Piranta Blade Remover. It makes changing the blade so much easier. I carry both in my pack but the Havalon is my go to.

From: Brotsky
14-Feb-19
Havalon for me. Just use the packaging from the new blade to remove the old blade and you're good to go. Blade exchange always make me nervous, it's the only real drawback I have found to the Havalon.

From: APauls
14-Feb-19
Havalon user for a number of years. Happy camper. For moose, the Baracuda is nice. I also double with it as a filleting knife in a backcountry situation, though I've used the Piranta for that as well. Guess I'm the odd one out I've never been nervous changing blades and never had a problem. I grasp the blade between my thumb and forefinger on my right hand, and with my left hand holding the handle of the knife use the tip of my left forefinger to push the tab of the blade out closest to the hilt.

14-Feb-19
I always used my leatherman to change out the blade, now I see they do have some tool for it,,,,,

From: smarba
14-Feb-19
Havalon w/ 60A blades. I can do an entire elk gutless with a single blade, 2 at the very most. Smaller game like deer, antelope, Barbary sheep 1 blade.

From: Surfbow
14-Feb-19
Havalon, I carry a pair of cheap forceps in the pouch to change blades. If I remember right the Gerber Vital doesn't work with the heavier #60A blades...

From: kota-man
14-Feb-19
I have several Havalons, the Gerber Vital and the Outdoor Edge Lite and regular. For a nice combination of features between the Havalon and the OE, the Vital falls right in the sweet spot. The only issue/problem people complain about with the Gerber is that very little of the cutting blade is actually useable due to design. If I'm on a guided hunt, where my knife work is somewhat limited, I always take the Vital. When I'm not ounce counting, I take the Outdoor Edge, if I'm ounce counting and will be using my knife a lot, the Havalon gets the nod. Like everything else, I've become a bit of a knife whore and have a drawer FULL of Havalon's, Outdoor Edge and a couple Gerber's. :) I just picked up a Tyto to play around with. Uses pretty much all the Havalon blades and is a great "fixed" option. Downside to the Gerber's is that they only use 60/60XT blades which are not as "robust" as the 60A's that most of the Havalon's take.

From: Timbrhuntr
14-Feb-19
I have both but find myself only using the havalon .

From: Mt. man
14-Feb-19
I use both and have no complaints.

From: GBTG
14-Feb-19
My son and I broke down an elk last fall. He had the OE and me the havalon. Both have their specialty but if I had to choose it was his OE by a minimal margin.

From: leftee
14-Feb-19
Both but more n more it's OE with hook.

From: Ucsdryder
14-Feb-19
The cool kids are using tyto franklin.

From: AlleninNM
14-Feb-19
I have the Havalon, OE and the Gerber Vital. I have used the Havalon and OE to break down multiple elk, deer and javelina in the field. From my experience, everyone's comments are pretty much correct. I have not used the Gerber, and will likely not be using it in the future, because of a failure of the blade release mechanism which occurred very shortly after I purchased the knife. I am not sure exactly how the metal tab that is the blade release button is attached to the knife, but it looks like it may be spot welded. On my first knife, the metal tab fell off after only a few pushes of the button. It was replaced by the retailer I purchased from, but have lost some faith in the knife not to fail me. The loss of usable length of the blade was a concern, but I never used it to see if it was an actual problem. I keep going back to the Havalon as my first choice. Just feels easier to handle and seems sharper. But I can see how the OE would appeal to some with a different style. Neither knife has any problem breaking down an animal including all joints.

From: smarba
14-Feb-19
I will emphasize, the Havalon 60A blades, while "only" 20% thicker, are more like 200% more durable and hold their edge much, much longer than the 60 series...if you use a Havalon or any other brand that uses these blades, absolutely get the 60A no question.

From: Mule Power
14-Feb-19
Havalon for me. Like Hunt said there’s a learning curve. You won’t break blades once you get used to letting a inife that sharp do the work.

Looks like Havalon is way ahead in this poll with thumbs up from some pretty serious hunters.

From: JRABQ
14-Feb-19
I've used both, I like the feel of the OE a little better. Maybe I'm a klutz, but it seemed like I'd cut myself with a Havalon just by looking at it.

Ok, I'm a klutz.

From: Matt
15-Feb-19
One I bought a Havalon. I haven't looked back.

From: Rob Nye
15-Feb-19
Did not care for the OE and gave mine away. Have used the Havalon since they appeared on the scene. I gut,skin and cape heads on 20 ish bears and 30 ish deer per year with an occasional moose or elk thrown in. As mentioned above the 60A blades are best. I do have an OE swing blade knife that I really like.

From: Medicinemann
15-Feb-19
I use both.

From: Striker@home
15-Feb-19
I've used both but prefer the havalon. My experience shows the OE edge to be quite fragile, easily curling under any contact with hard substance like bone. That quickly dulls a blade and I have not experiences such with the havalon. Yes, the OE feels more substantial in my hand and the Havalon can be tricky replacing blades, especially when hands are slippery with blood, but I still prefer the cutting abilities of the havalon system. They're also releasing newer models that have more heft to the handles, which should alleviate some of my form factor concerns.

From: COHOYTHUNTER
15-Feb-19
Thanks for all the input guys. I have a buddy who has the Havalon Hydra. That seems really appealing to me, I like the idea of the larger handle, along with the large and small blades/saws that can be added. I have the Piranta for ounce counting scenarios.

15-Feb-19
I have used the Havalon for a few years now, and use my Leatherman multi-tool to replace the blades. I have a habit of cutting myself, and my Leatherman is always on my belt or in my pack, so why not use it?

From: goelk
15-Feb-19
Havalon hands down. I have both.

From: Tyler
19-Feb-19
Have both never use the OE cant cape around antlers very well with the OE. Havalon piranta I can do a whole moose caped deboned with 3 blades max. dedicate 1 blade for skinning 1 for boning and 1 as a back up. Another pro to the havalon is blades are like 40 bucks on amazon for 100 compared to the cost of blades for an OE its a huge saver as a guide. Havalon is lighter. As for everyone changing blades not sure why its so hard or dangerous. left hand finger and thumb grab the blade of course on the backside, right hand holds the handle and thumb lifts the tab while left hand slides the blade off. I am on blade 450ish and yet to cut myself changing a blade.

From: ohiohunter
19-Feb-19
X2 rattlinjunk, why not put the leatherman to use. It absolutely stifles that mental image of lacerating your thumb on a surgical razor 2mi from camp.

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