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Contributors to this thread:
wisconsinteacher 13-Mar-19
Brotsky 13-Mar-19
wisconsinteacher 13-Mar-19
Charlie Rehor 13-Mar-19
WapitiBob 13-Mar-19
Fauntleroy 13-Mar-19
ND String Puller 13-Mar-19
Smtn10PT 13-Mar-19
Twinetickler 13-Mar-19
wisconsinteacher 13-Mar-19
Overland 13-Mar-19
elkhoonter 13-Mar-19
Deertick 13-Mar-19
elkhoonter 13-Mar-19
SBH 13-Mar-19
Twinetickler 13-Mar-19
Dave 14-Mar-19
midwest 14-Mar-19
Wishedhead 14-Mar-19
Dave B 14-Mar-19
Twinetickler 14-Mar-19
LINK 14-Mar-19
SBH 14-Mar-19
WapitiBob 14-Mar-19
Twinetickler 14-Mar-19
'Ike' (Phone) 14-Mar-19
WapitiBob 14-Mar-19
'Ike' (Phone) 14-Mar-19
WapitiBob 14-Mar-19
'Ike' 15-Mar-19
md5252 15-Mar-19
stringgunner 15-Mar-19
Twinetickler 15-Mar-19
WapitiBob 15-Mar-19
Blade 15-Mar-19
Surfbow 16-Mar-19
'Ike' (Phone) 16-Mar-19
wilhille 16-Mar-19
'Ike' (Phone) 16-Mar-19
Twinetickler 16-Mar-19
Larry 17-Mar-19
Grunt-N-Gobble 17-Mar-19
marktm250 19-Mar-19
'Ike' 19-Mar-19
13-Mar-19
I currently have a 1 year subscription to one state (WY). Can I buy another 1 year subscription for another state (WI) on the same account?

From: Brotsky
13-Mar-19
No, your options are either one state or all states. Ran into this myself a year ago. It would be cheaper to purchase a couple states ala carte but that is not an option yet as far as I know.

13-Mar-19
Could I create a different account and have two apps on my phone?

13-Mar-19
You can also get all 50 states for a monthly fee ($14.99) and then stop when your done. I buy this monthly service in August then cancel after season. Good luck!

From: WapitiBob
13-Mar-19
You should be able to have 2 separate accounts on the same phone. The only problem you might run into is how the app handles the data storage for both accounts. It shouldn't over write account A with account B data (track, waypoints, etc).

From: Fauntleroy
13-Mar-19
Might be able to if you run two separate Google Play or Apple accounts.

13-Mar-19
Camofire has the OnX 50 state elite membership for $60 today, regularly $100. I’m going to renew mine today.

From: Smtn10PT
13-Mar-19
I called their customer service when I had the same question. They said you cant have two single states, but they guy I spoke to let me swap my state of choice from CO to PA for the remainder of the subscription.

From: Twinetickler
13-Mar-19
You would be cheaper and I actually like Basemaps better. You get the whole country for $30 a year. Gives you everything Onx gives you. I made the switch and haven't looked back.

13-Mar-19
Could I create a different account and have two apps on my phone?

From: Overland
13-Mar-19
One of the many reasons to cancel OnX and get Gaia.

From: elkhoonter
13-Mar-19

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If you want to keep your hunting locations private, I wouldn't use Onx. Their privacy policy states they will use (and sell) any of your data for any reason whatsoever. Their next product will probably be "Western hot spots" include your camp locations, trails you hiked, wallow and kill sites, based on your waypoint and tracking data that you willingly give them by using their app.

From the Onx privacy policy: (c) Use of Non-Personally Identifiable and Aggregate Information. We may use non-personally identifiable information and aggregate information for any lawful purpose, including, but not limited to, analyzing trends, managing and administering the Service, tracking users’ movements, to create new products or services or to improve our business and the Service. We may also share aggregate information with third parties to develop and deliver targeted advertising and to analyze and report on the advertising you see. In addition, we may share aggregate statistical information with our business partners. We may also combine your non-personally identifiable information and aggregate information with other non-personally identifiable information and aggregate information collected from other sources. We will take reasonable steps to ensure that aggregate information is never associated with you or your personally identifiable information.

From: Deertick
13-Mar-19
Kinda glad I’m with Gaia after that last post. But then again, I Don’t recall a resolution to Jaquomos Gaia issues.

From: elkhoonter
13-Mar-19
Just found this on Gaia's privacy policy (regarding "data", which includes waypoints, etc.). Read the last sentence carefully.

We use this information for the purpose of administering and improving our Services to you. We may also use this information in a de-identified, anonymous way in conjunction with an analytics service such as Google Analytics to monitor and analyze use of the Services, for the Services’ technical administration, and to increase the Services’ functionality and user-friendliness. We may reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute the Public Data, to other users of the Services, to the public, or to any third party. We may use Private Data, in an anonymized manner, to provide data to users of the Services as to the popularity of existing features on maps, such as trails and points of interest and the frequency with which such locations have been visited in a given month.

From: SBH
13-Mar-19
Talk to me about this basemaps app. I bought one for AZ hunt this year and it came with download. Looks like I have the whole country on it but how do I get land ownership? Does it work the same as onx where you have to preload maps where you don't have service?

From: Twinetickler
13-Mar-19
SBH you can turn on or off any layers that you would like such as unit boundaries, private, BLM etc. Yes you can download areas that you will be hunting in to use offline if you dont have service. Also gives you landowner names, winter range, summer range, old burn areas, topo use and a whole lot more. Including tracking and setting waypoints. Learning how to use the layering feature is not bad with some exploring. It also has a buddy mode that will ping and show you where your buddy is. Kinda nice if you get hurt or trying to explain where you are at with your big buck, or bull you just put an arrow through. Not sure on the privacy policy though, that is interesting info. I'll have to look closer into.

From: Dave
14-Mar-19
Basemap is garbage. I decided to try it out for $30. In a nutshell, you get what you pay for. Have had nothing but problems with it both online and on my phone. Their CS is terrible. About the only thing it's good for is basic land ownership across many states. If you want full functionality(waypoints etc), go with OnX (or maybe Gaia but I haven't tried that one) I won't be renewing my Basemap membership when the year is up. I find myself going back to OnX every time after crashes and other problems with Basemap.

From: midwest
14-Mar-19
Does Gaia move seamlessly between downloaded maps now or do you still have to manually switch to each one?

From: Wishedhead
14-Mar-19
Make sure to cancel onx after the year or many times thier will b an automatic renewal and your account will b charged

From: Dave B
14-Mar-19
Imagine the uproar if they ever share your spots...company killer.

From: Twinetickler
14-Mar-19
Dave I'm interested in some more deatail on the issues you had with Basemaps? I've only used it locally on some shed hunts and its seemed to do ok. Does it crash offline? I have some hunts planned this fall where I'll need to have a reliable tool to determine public and private etc. Thanks for any info. So far I've liked it, but would like to hear your bad experience with it.

From: LINK
14-Mar-19
If you buy onX elite for $60 i like it better than Gaia for $30. They do the same things but Onx is more intuitive. If your a penny pincher get Gaia.

From: SBH
14-Mar-19
Ive been having issues with Onx too. Had one backcountry hunt this year without service where my downloaded map was blurry the entire hunt. I tried restarting my phone didn't work. Image was blurry and property lines only showed up some of the time. It was a bad deal as I was relying on it.

From: WapitiBob
14-Mar-19

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The same area, both offline cached maps, OnX and Basemap. The OnX maps have gotten worse over time. They say you are not supposed to be able to cache Google Earth imagery. My Basemap cached map layer data says it's ESRI imagery, but it's GE imagery.

From: Twinetickler
14-Mar-19
That is what I've noticed, the Basemaps detail is so much crisper and detailed. Thanks for the comparison

14-Mar-19
Damn it, thought my eyes were going...Lol! I too have noticed that onX isn’t what it used to be...Hopefully they’re on it!

From: WapitiBob
14-Mar-19
It’s possible that when BaseMap hooked up with google for their earth 3D integration they struck a deal where the end user could cache the google imagery. That would be a big deal.

14-Mar-19
Yes it would...Didn’t look at it that way!

From: WapitiBob
14-Mar-19
I’m gonna cache a cpl states worth of maps this weekend just in case.

From: 'Ike'
15-Mar-19
Anyone else on onX having issues with continually having to set your layers, or re-set them when you log in?

From: md5252
15-Mar-19
OnX is terrible in my opinion. They do a good job of sponsoring people to promote their stuff but I had all sorts of issues when I tried it.

GAIA is cheaper, easier to use, and does everything OnX does and more

From: stringgunner
15-Mar-19
I have an old chip that instill use in my gps from when they first came out. I’ve been considering up grading to my iPhone instead but threads like this really make me wonder if that is the best option.

Curious for those that have problems, what is their customer support or what is their answer to many of these problems with the software?

From: Twinetickler
15-Mar-19
I'm going on an all day shed trip tomorrow planning to use BaseMaps, I'll give you a review of how it goes.

From: WapitiBob
15-Mar-19
I have had no problems with onx on both iphone and android. The early problems I had with Basemap were just bugs and they fixed them promptly. The only thing I don't care fore with basemap is I have to pick each cached map individually to have it display. I believe that's because each map could have different layers, which is not the case with Onx.

From: Blade
15-Mar-19
I'm in the market and wondering what GAIA offers more than OnX other than difference in price

From: Surfbow
16-Mar-19
I've never had an issue with OnX, but WapitiBob's map actually has pictures of where the elk are, which would make elk hunting MUCH easier! I may have to switch...

16-Mar-19
Those were plants, photoshopped! :-)

From: wilhille
16-Mar-19
Ike to answer your question about the layers, yes I have had problems. My New Mexico layer package seems to disappear all the time. I constantly have to go back and add it. Another problem I had, was that it flat out stopped working last summer. Luckily my wife had it downloaded on her phone and I was able to mark some waypoints, but it could have sucked more if I was in an unfamiliar unit. I contacted them and they made it right, but I'm now in the market for a stand alone GPS. I just don't trust it after this past summer.

16-Mar-19
Interesting...Like I said, hopefully they’ll get on it!

From: Twinetickler
16-Mar-19

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I spent the day trying to find an elk shed and had Basemaps tracking me. It worked without any problems and I was satisfied with its performance. I marked a few way points, and saw a few bulls still packing. No sheds, but maybe next time I'll find these big heavy suckers in the pinyon jungles....

From: Larry
17-Mar-19
. I have an On X chip for my GPS and it works. But the size of the screen on my smartphone is enticing. I had On X maps for my phone and could not figure out how to find the extra information. I downloaded the Basemaps and liked the fact that it has the same image as Google maps and I was able to find all the layers. I am old and computers like to mess with me but for ease of use, Basemaps wins hand down.

17-Mar-19
I too didnt like the offline sat image with OnX this last fall. I doubt ill renew my membership unless the fix it. Very disappointed.

From: marktm250
19-Mar-19
wow, this thread is all over the map (pun intended). Both fans and haters of OnX and Basemaps. Curious that no one has yet to say anything bad about Gaia? Guess I will need to do some more research. I will be getting one of these to try out on a MT hunt this fall. Just looking for the basics that will get the job done with a minimum of fuss.

From: 'Ike'
19-Mar-19
I think each have their strong suits and weaknesses...Is there a perfect one, not that I've seen and Bob would be the one that knows...

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