Does this buck make P and Y ?
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From: Shug
15-Mar-19
( Answered further down)
This isn’t meant to be a bitching post for anti Pope and Young folks to jump on and start whining. But I did think it was a good learning piece if “ you want a buck that nets P and Y ( if you post nets are for fishing you’re an idiot)
All that being said, I measured this Iowa buck yesterday... Some guesses on what it nets out at? Reference 20 5/8 inside spread. Right G2 and left G 3 are 12” range Also the first two points near the base on the right antler were non typical. So there is no right G1
From: Shug
15-Mar-19
From: SD BuckBuster
15-Mar-19
Based on your title I will guess it nets 123 5/8s
Without knowing your post title I would say 136 net.. Gross 145
From: Brotsky
15-Mar-19
114"....and I'm serious in addition to honoring Kelly Harris! Lots of deductions here.
From: Kurt
15-Mar-19
126” net typical
From: Charlie Rehor
15-Mar-19
Beautiful frame and certainly a mature deer. Judging by the hunters smile he is very pleased.
Gross and net will be 20+ inches apart. C
From: JohnMC
15-Mar-19
I say it makes P&Y. I would guess net in the low 130s" gross low 140s". One question that would make probably a 6''+ difference is that point on right consider a G1 or a abnormal point. One pic looks like a G1 in another it does not. If both are abnormal points are deductions and you don't get credit for left G1 and might not make it.
From: loprofile
15-Mar-19
Great buck but no Pope and Young. Problem is that because he is a typical 5 by three he gets no net credit for brow tines or g - 4
From: Kodiak
15-Mar-19
I'm not going to venture a guess, but that's a great deer...and a not-so-great deer if scoring matters.
From: Boreal
15-Mar-19
Right at 125. Could go either way.
From: APauls
15-Mar-19
Stud buck, guessing because of the nature of the thread it doesn't net 125. I was just showing someone today some of the racks off deer I've killed and their scores to underline the fact that who cares about scores. If you hunt for fun and enjoy yourself you can never lose.
From: Scrappy
15-Mar-19
Since we cant bitch about nets and all that. I'll bitch about how I hate these guess the score threads cause I suck at it and I forget to come back and find out.
From: swampokie
15-Mar-19
Huge frame but it wont net p and y. Missing eye guard and 6point frame right side
From: Shug
15-Mar-19
Couple guys were right there... 128 4/8 net and Charlie was spot on with the 20” deduction... pretty amazing frame it had!!
From: Stekewood
15-Mar-19
He's got what it takes to make it, but the G2 and G3 on the left side are in the wrong order. ;-)
From: jjs
15-Mar-19
Doesn't matter what the book say, it is a very nice buck and your field smile is a 10 and that is what count. :()
From: JohnMC
15-Mar-19
Did the scorer score the point on right base a G1 or abnormal?
From: Forest bows
15-Mar-19
129"
From: Dale06
15-Mar-19
Take your kids hunting. My kid is 40 years old, and we really like hunting together, bow and gun.
From: t-roy
15-Mar-19
Nets are for food service employees?.
From: Franklin
15-Mar-19
Nice deer but won`t "score" for crap....that`s why book score doesn`t mean a whole lot to me.
From: deerslayer
15-Mar-19
^ LOL!!!
From: JRW
15-Mar-19
124 7/8"
From: hunt'n addict
15-Mar-19
I agree with swamppokie. Missing G1 and 6 point frame, and the differences from the left to the right will cause to many deducts. Great buck I wouldn't pass though!
From: Shug
15-Mar-19
Yes pretty cool buck very few would pass... it scored as a 3 x 3 So basically a 128 buck with two tines...
From: sticksender
15-Mar-19
Beautiful buck.....congrats!
From: EmbryOklahoma
15-Mar-19
Just misses... err, by 4/8.
From: deerhunter72
15-Mar-19
I won’t venture a guess, but I’d score him as a “shooter” in about a heartbeat. Never have had any of mine officially scored. Congrats to the hunter on an awesome buck.
From: Boreal
15-Mar-19
Where did you take the right side H1 measurement?
From: Shug
15-Mar-19
pm sent ken
From: trkyslr
15-Mar-19
Agree with jjs and troy
From: Corn bore
15-Mar-19
115 to 120 range great main beams.
From: Aspen Ghost
15-Mar-19
The official P&Y score will not reflect how nice that buck actually is. P&Y scoring values symmetry and punishes a 3x5 rack.
From: Duke
16-Mar-19
Looks like a great buck to me! Score—whatever. It’s a trophy.
From: Forest bows
16-Mar-19
128
From: BullBuster
16-Mar-19
Agree that net scoring is lame. Could care less about symmetry. Just About total bone to me. That’s why I never submit to P&Y although I support the organization
From: Jack Harris
16-Mar-19
Good post Mark - love this stuff! I am not a P&Y basher, if I get a buck that makes buck I will enter it, but it's never my criteria for letting an arrow fly. I just want a buck that is near the top of the maturity age class for area I am hunting with enough bone to get my heart pumping, one that is mount-worthy, and DELICIOUS. Thanks again for scoring my 2018 NJ buck!
From: NYbob
16-Mar-19
So proud of my son, that's him holding that buck, I don't care what he scores, I have yet to get that big of one and I'm 86 years old !
From: t-roy
16-Mar-19
Keep after it, NYbob. You’re due!!
That’s beyond impressive that you’re still at it at 86! Hats off to you!
From: Shawn
16-Mar-19
Its a very nice mature deer, no matter the score. I have one that grosses 163"s he barely makes P&Y as a typical and also just makes it as a non-typical but he is 5.5 years old and was a mature dominate buck. That is what matters, at least to me. My best trophy as far as I am concerned is a doe I killed 25 years ago, she dressed 186#s and was verified at 11.5 years old. Shawn
From: Alexis Desjardins
17-Mar-19
Good conversation piece nice buck just the same.
