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Typical or nontypical??
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t-roy 28-Mar-19
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stick n string 28-Mar-19
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sticksender 28-Mar-19
Brotsky 28-Mar-19
t-roy 28-Mar-19
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Charlie Rehor 28-Mar-19
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From: t-roy
28-Mar-19

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I found these matching sheds the other day. At first, I thought it would be considered a typical mainframe 10 pointer with non typical points between the G2s and G3’s on both sides, but after looking at them more closely, I’m not sure if they would be scored that way. Neither of the tines in question seem to share a common base with the G2 or G3 on either side, and they both seem to be coming off the main beams in the same manner as the G2s and 3s.

Opinions?

From: t-roy
28-Mar-19

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From: t-roy
28-Mar-19

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28-Mar-19
I think none of our opinions outside guys like Ed and the other guys who panel judge these animals matter, but it sure looks like a false G3 that's growing off of a shared base on both sides.

It's a very unique buck though. Did you find these sheds in a place that you could hunt him? He could be a very interesting buck next year.

From: t-roy
28-Mar-19
I found them on one of my farms, Ike. I usually run cameras, but due to a death in the family last year, I never had the time to run any, so, obviously no pics of him last year nor any sightings of him either (other than possibly one from about 500 yards away last November). I’m definitely looking forward to hopefully seeing what he turns into this year!

From: Boreal
28-Mar-19
Love the mass! I think they would be scored typical.

28-Mar-19
Beaut

From: Shawn
28-Mar-19
Either one, they score it both was, but who cares. The deer grew them and add up the to get a gross score. Shawn

From: TrapperKayak
28-Mar-19
Not many deductions either way. I don't care what 'they' consider it, typ or NT, I would just consider that a special find, and be happy to know he's still out there to hunt this fall.

From: sticksender
28-Mar-19
Cool sheds.

On a farm you can hunt?

From: Brotsky
28-Mar-19
That's a really cool buck! Be interesting to see what happens with those tines this year, if they grow in a similar fashion or if they spread out, etc. Who knows, the whole thing could palmate more. Deer are awesome!

From: t-roy
28-Mar-19
sticksender......yes

From: BullBuster
28-Mar-19
Always somebody comes in a says "who cares". Amazing. Nice buck. I think typical.

From: BOWUNTR
28-Mar-19
Obviously t-roy cares.... From the pics, they look like they come off the top of the main beam in a typical location - typical. The pic of the left outside concerns me just a little bit. Call it typical and kill him this year... Ed F

From: Hancock West
28-Mar-19
unique but typical

28-Mar-19
Hope you get him next year and I bet he’ll be “different”!

From: Catscratch
28-Mar-19
I have no clue what the rules are for typical vs non-typical but I can tell you two things; that is not what I think of when I think non-typical, and it is AWESOME! Sorry I couldn't help, but I wanted to comment just because that is a set of sheds.

From: molsonarcher
28-Mar-19
Non typical. Not even spacing between the tines and excessive webbing between the tines. Very cool find though

From: molsonarcher
28-Mar-19

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The reason i say non typ is this. This deer was panel scored by p&y, and the points between the g2/g3 were considered non typical The antlers found by the op are pretty much identical in configuration

From: molsonarcher
28-Mar-19
The reason i say non typ is this. This deer was panel scored by p&y, and the points between the g2/g3 were considered non typical The antlers found by the op are pretty much identical in configuration

From: Huntcell
28-Mar-19
TypicAL all day long. Front, back, top, inside , backside still typical. No question no doubts confirmed TYPICAL.

From: Franklin
28-Mar-19
Either way....you still get credit for the mass circumference between the G2-G3 which will be huge.

I friend of mine shot a buck like this that ended up scoring 194" due to the mass palmation between the tines. His mass dimensions were in the mid 50"s.

From: Starfire
28-Mar-19
I say typical but I can see why it does look like a common base.

From: midwest
28-Mar-19
molsonarcher, that left point sure looks like it shares a base with the G2. The right side would then have no match on the other side so would be NT, too. But I'm no official scorer.

Hope you get a crack at that one next year, Troy!

From: Ambush
28-Mar-19
I’d say awesome and typical.

Since the whole main beam appears as palmated, I don’t think you could claim the space between as common base. Just characteristic of the rest of the main beam.

Bet you have cams out in the area this year!!

From: Gator
28-Mar-19
A picture looks straight down from the top should identify rather a common base point(s) or not. The deciding factor.

28-Mar-19
Typical

28-Mar-19
I'd say you need to let me come up this fall and kill him... that would be typical friendly nature.

From: t-roy
28-Mar-19

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Rick.....if you leave your recurve at home, I might consider it! I’ve seen what you did with it last fall!

I’ll definitely be putting cameras out in hopes of getting some pics of him this year.

Here’s as close to vertical of a pic as I could get and still be able to tell what I was looking at. Right side

From: t-roy
28-Mar-19

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Both of the points in question look, to me, to be exactly in the same plane as the typical tines on either side of them.

Left side

From: Brotsky
28-Mar-19
I gotta lean toward the right side sharing a common base with the G2. The left side looks somewhat better but it might be the angle. Either way my money is on him being even more questionable this year as to how he would be scored. Always fun though seeing what they turn in to!

From: Shawn
28-Mar-19
My comment of "who cares" is not meant as a jab, it is actually a compliment. I do not think anyone on here would really care what it was scored as, just that they actually killed such a magnificent buck! Shawn

From: Zbone
28-Mar-19
Beautiful buck... Good luck!!!

From: drycreek
28-Mar-19
I know I wouldn't care, never had one scored in my life, but it's a nice buck, and I would definitely try to ground check him.

From: BOHNTR
28-Mar-19
I wouldn’t care either, as that’s a great buck....as for typ vs non-typ both points appear, at least by photos, as typical points.

From: Grunter
29-Mar-19
Wow nice sheds Troy! Almost as good as getting him. Have no idea on how to score that. But when you get him, let me know so I can help!

From: MDW
29-Mar-19
Without actually having the rack in my hands to examine, I would say it should be scored as typical.

From: t-roy
29-Mar-19
Curious how many of you guys are official scorers? I know Ed F. is and I’m thinking possibly Roy G. & Marvin W. as well?

I put a tape to these antlers and scored him as a typical. I came up with 85 2/8ths” on the right antler, and 76 3/8ths” on the left. Had approximately 11 1/8ths” of side to side deductions. With an 18” spread he would gross just shy of 180” and net roughly 168”.

29-Mar-19
Ed, Roy and Marvin are all Official Measurers. Others may be as well but I know these guys are.

It seems you’ve followed measuring directions from the back of the score sheets so you’re likely in the ball park. I assume you used a reasonable inside spread measurement of 42”!

I mean 19”! Ha Ha!

From: APauls
29-Mar-19
Without a shadow of a doubt I know that I couldn't give you the legal answer. Much like the NHL department of player safety, I could see it going either way. My gut tells me it's non-typ, as your 3rd pic clearly shows the thicker parts of the tines and beams and that the "in-between" tines come out of the webbing, but if someone is being a rule stickler and interpreting it a different way I wouldn't be shocked to see it scored either way. I feel like all rules aside, at the heart of the matter, those are non-typ tines.

From: t-roy
29-Mar-19
Charlie.....you measure spread on sheds on the outside, correct!?

From: BULELK1
30-Mar-19
Very unique find buddy.

No guess from me on T or NT though.

Good luck, Robb

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