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Turkey anal gland scent question
I've been using turkey anal gland scent on my jake decoys for the past several years, with great success. I collect it from mature toms and freeze it until the following year. Sometimes it really seems to make a difference on those spooky toms that would otherwise hang up out of range. One whiff and they run in and attack the decoy. It's like magic. TBM told me about it.
Anyway, my question is, will Merriams anal gland scent work on Rios and Easterns, or is anal gland oil subspecies-specific? It sure smells the same, but wondering. Hoping some of the experts will know. Thanks!
I heard if you eat turkey you can use your own anal gland scent to fool Toms.
Particularly in gay bars.
I've wondered this as well but never asked because I was afraid it was common knowledge and I would like like novice.
I've been collecting it for a few years which isnt easy. Probably easier on dead ones.
Tink was WAY ahead of his time. Happy April 1, Lou!
Be careful when transporting any natural anal scent across state lines. I’m currently working with a group of chemists to formulate a totally synthetic turkey anal gland scent.
Just remember to use your ozonics and setup down wind, those turkeys have a better sense of smell than easterns. Maybe use the acorn cruncher call too. I find the deer view mirror works well for those Toms that try to skirt you as well :)
I find it best to not come on bowsite on April 1, to many Jaquomo's. :)
..if you accidently get the scent on your clothes..... could a turkey possibly attack you? Asking for a friend.
When I was in Nebraska they mixed Busch light with makers marker and put it on the decoys and had a spray bottle for the blind. Very effective
Jaq, I use semen from a unicorn collected during the blood moon. Works at least as well as anal gland scent.
Isnt is easier to just get the scent after they drag their ass across the leaves? Similar to what a dog does on carpet?
I know Hunt is April foolin'. I've been to Nebraska, there isn't any Makers or Busch Latte's left in the morning for that nonsense! :-)
If you really want to go next level you need to get a plucked hen from the supermarket and put in your decoys. No man can resist the allure of the bare breast.
TBM was certainly an anal specialist. The sphincter master.
^^^^LMAO oh boy this thread went south
Lou - What's the best method for retrieving that gland?
Insert thumb and forefinger, pinch and pull?
Or do you just put the bird in your armpit and squeeze to prolapse?
I'm not sure how big your turkeys are, but I once sat on a squirt bottle of Cow Moose in Heat.
Try telling a thousand pound bull moose you have a headache!
You guys think I'm joking, but I'm not. I have 332 bowkilled turkeys to prove it works.. OB, there's definitely a technique for collecting. First time I tried palpating and it squirted in my mouth. Not recommended. Now I retrieve the whole gland from the inside and quickly tie it off. Then I put it in my buddy's beer cooler to keep it chilled....
"..have 332 bowkilled turkeys." There is the joke...;)
Should make absolutely no difference as far as effectiveness on multiple subspecies, Lou, as they are all, pretty much, crossbred anyway. (See “Where to go for a Rio” thread)
I’ve had better success using strictly nothing but tarsal glands from Oscillated turkeys, or, in a pinch, Gould’s. It really brings out an incredible territorial response in our local birds here, due to the foreign nature of the smell. Smells faintly of enchiladas with a hint of guacamole. When using decoys along with the scent, I recommend setting up facing south, with a wall between you and the birds. They can’t resist that setup, however, many times, they come in at night, especially the wise birds.
I've tried tarsal and also wattle gland scent from domestic turkeys and it didnt seem to work. But you're right, I did get a lot of trail cam pictures in the middle of the night. They fly down off the roost to check it out, then go back up.
TrapperKayak, you must not remember my mentor, TBM.. He is the greatest and most succcessful archery turkey hunter in history, but alas, he has been banished from the Bowsite because of his amazing success on impossible-to-kill Alabama turkeys. BTW, I've been hunting them for 45 years, average 7-8 birds a year, so my math may be off a little but not much. There are a few years in the late 70s where my memory is a little fuzzy.
"I have 332 bowkilled turkeys to prove it works"..
Sure, maybe on Colorado Turkeys...an Alabama Turkey would take one whiff, and bug right out! Takes more than anal gland tricks to fool a wily old Alabama Gobbler!
Maybe a market for a smaller Butt Out tool??
Turkey Butt Management or TBM for short.
7 or 8 a season? With bow? (must be crossbow). Member of ABA? Alabama Poachers Anonymous? Or is the AL turkey limit the same as the deer limit - 1 a day for several weeks... LOL! Hunt with dogs too? BTW, turkeys don't have an anus. They have a cloaca. You have to have TCM degree to pass. Turkey Cloaca Management.
You guys just got me in trouble... boss walked in and asked me what I was laughing at. :(
Lou, The problem with using any scent of turkeys, is first, make sure it's legal. Second, you gotta kill all human scent. There's a reason why birds circle you're decoys, they're scent checking, and one small whiff of human and they're gone!!
Waddle scent, made by Mr. Bone Collector himself, Mike Waddledell, seems to work good on the Texas Rios. We're mist spraying with it like we do for elk, and having good success mist spraying, especially if the birds are coming in downwind!! I heard Ever Calm is now making a cover scent for turkeys, smells kinda like a chicken coop. Give it a try. Lots of good reports coming in from those Mississippi boys..
TrapperKayak, seriously. Did you not get this thread?BTW, I live in Colorado. I can hunt 4 states within a 2 hour drive, and all have multiple turkey limits in spring, plus fall turkey hunting.
You do understand that this is April Fool's Day, right? And no, turkeys don't have an anus nor do they have anal glands or tarsal glands or wattle glands, nor can they smell, and this thread is a complete hoax to rope in guys like you who take themselves, and life, way too seriously. Figured I'd explain that just in case you missed out on the joke that everyone else got.....
If you do use the turkey anal gland scent, be sure to not set up upwind of an ostrich farm. Apparently the pheromones are similar.
Nicely done Lou (and others)!!!
Some great entertainment right here!
It might work..... but I'm thinkin' yur gonna need shower after......
Wait a minute!
I was serious when I was asking about squeezing my turkey!!
Scrote x-rays, looking up turkey butts, what's next ? SMH Lou :-)
Is that really how CWD got its start?
You guys are way off base. It’s the interdigital gland scent that really works. Spread a line of it thru the woods and any turkey that crosses it will follow it right to you.
Dang, never thought about the interdigital gland but that makes perfect sense! I'll try that next week.
OB, squeezing the turkey is different from choking the chicken. Call me. We need to talk...
I guess its no secret. These TG3000 turkey gland extraction pumps are up on Camofire as we speak. Was hoping for one in Vias or Optifade, but non-camo is all there is left.
You can paint it with Bow Dull like we used to do back in the Good Old Days. Not as effective as Vias or Optifade but if you stay in the shadows you probably will be ok. Toughest part is getting the damned tom to hold still during the process..
Lou, LOL! You obviously got fooled by MY spoofin'. You must think I'm a real idiot not to have gotten all that. Really? Who's the joke on now? Must be the 70s effects... ;) BTW, I'm from NY. Maybe that's why you think I'm too stupid to catch on to all this.
Thanks to everybody else for playing along. You guys turned it into a fun thread!
I collect it, turkey anal gland scent. I have 332 bowkilled turkeys' anal gland oil.
Nice, Lou. That's a heckuva claim to fame...;)
Hey Lou, where do we give? We hope you fingers are warm and gentle. Is this like a colonoscopy inspection?
Hey Lou, where do we give? We hope you fingers are warm and gentle. Is this like a colonoscopy inspection?
Lou, I hear you are giving a turkey hunting seminar at the PY Convention next week. You will be on just prior to Donald Trump JR, on Friday night. Will you have enough turkey gland scent bottled up, to go around? If not, you better get cracking.
Yep. My seminar will be on gland extraction and scent preservation, plus best setups for scent lures. This element has been ignored because only recently did scientists learn that turkeys do smell certain turkey excretions, but not human scent.
Talked to Don Jr. Tonight and he told me to take as much time as needed, since this is such an important and groundbreaking discovery. Kimberly is especially interested...
I hear that if you do not wear rubber gloves................................................................! Well you get the meaning and you think acid is dangerous.
Somebody has to prove to me turkeys have a decent sense of smell, if that was the case explain why they'll come into humans downwind...
The fact that Tink’s sells turkey scent, plus it’s getting harder to find, is all the proof I need that shows me it must be working!
At least shoot them first!
Obviously, you’ve been sneaking up and gathering anal scent from poor unsuspecting toms... Probably in the dark of night while they are in the roost!
Obviously cruel and unethical behavior!
Treeline, great pics of a rare old world turkey subspecies!! The Mega-sore-ass.
Hell, those were just some local Merriam’s I saw wandering around over by Lou’s place.
Obviously been violated!
LMAO! The level of dedication on this site is what makes it such a great place. The fact that someone would take the time to photoshop some real inflamed arse holes on strutting turkeys just to get a laugh is extremely impressive. We truly are next level here at the Bowsite! :-)
Looks like proper glandular insertion or extraction procedure protocol was not followed correctly. You’d think that after 300 and some odd turkeys, you could do it in your sleep!
t-roy lets just leave turkey anus, insertion and sleep out of this. Whatever Jaq does with a consenting turkey is his own business.
Be careful Brotsky! Sounds like Procto-Jaq is headed east toward Omaha. He heard that there would be a hellacious flock of turkeys over there next week all primed up and ready for extraction:-)
Lou is not afraid to 'Express himself' "Yep. My seminar will be on gland extraction" :)
Treeline, I hear the owner of Bowsite is planning to drug those turkeys with free alcohol to aid in extraction in exchange for free product. I have heard the scent greatly aids in his new style of "catch and release" turkey hunting.
This is great, TBM reincarnated western style. Out of the but thinking fur sure. Master of his own domain. Not that there is nothing wrong with that.
THIS, is frigging hilarious!!! Thank you Jaq... THANK YOU! ha ha ha ha!
I sprayed down my Jake decoy today and passed up 8 birds inside 10 yards because K114 hasn't arrived yet.. Not an April Fools joke. :-(
Luckily I have a gallon of gland juice for this hunt. These toms love the stuff.... They get downwind, smell it, and run in gobbling. Sure wanted to blood K114 with my first bird of the year so hopefully It will be delivered tomorrow!
Just hope we don’t have to rename the knife “K-Y” 114, when you get done with it, Lou!