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Contributors to this thread:
Hunt98 02-Apr-19
tkjwonta 02-Apr-19
Bowboy 02-Apr-19
midwest 02-Apr-19
cnelk 02-Apr-19
Brotsky 02-Apr-19
Mossyhorn 02-Apr-19
Mike-TN 02-Apr-19
Mossyhorn 02-Apr-19
Inshart 02-Apr-19
cnelk 02-Apr-19
elkstabber 02-Apr-19
PO Cedar 02-Apr-19
Hunt98 02-Apr-19
txhunter58 02-Apr-19
Bow Bullet 02-Apr-19
cnelk 02-Apr-19
Ucsdryder 02-Apr-19
elkstabber 03-Apr-19
KC9 03-Apr-19
Drnaln 03-Apr-19
Brotsky 03-Apr-19
Hunt98 03-Apr-19
Mossyhorn 03-Apr-19
Paul@thefort 03-Apr-19
Jaquomo 03-Apr-19
Monarchcx 09-Apr-19
cnelk 09-Apr-19
Korey Wolfe 09-Apr-19
Fauntleroy 09-Apr-19
From: Hunt98
02-Apr-19
I just want to apply for elk preference points only. What are all of the different licenses that I need to buy?

Is there a combo pack that will be cheaper vs buying them individually?

Can I buy mule deer PP for like $7 or $9 more?

Thanks for you help!

From: tkjwonta
02-Apr-19
Get the small game license, make sure it is for 2019. Once you have that, it should automatically add the neccessary habitat stamp. Then go in and buy each species point (elk, deer, antelope, bear) that you would like for $9 each. Trophy species points (sheep, goat, moose) are more expensive.

From: Bowboy
02-Apr-19
Yep, what he said.^^^

From: midwest
02-Apr-19
^^^^^^Just like he said. Elk and mule deer points ($9 ea.) with small game license and habitat stamp ($91.75). $109.75 total

From: cnelk
02-Apr-19
FYI -

You dont need to make 2 transactions. As long as the small game license is in your 'Cart' first, you can then apply for Pref Points or licenses and CheckOut once.

From: Brotsky
02-Apr-19
Yep, like Nick said, if you want just deer an elk points your total will be $109.75.....and you can add another state to the list where you can shoot squirrels.

From: Mossyhorn
02-Apr-19
What if you’re applying for an actual tag? Do you still need the small game license? If not, can you just apply for an impossible tag, get a point and then get a tag refund?

From: Mike-TN
02-Apr-19
I did not see any way to get around buying the small game license.... and I applied for a deer tag that is pretty much a guarantee

From: Mossyhorn
02-Apr-19
Dang, what a racket! I bet this will improve some draw odds! Ha ha!

From: Inshart
02-Apr-19
UNLESS, you purchase over the counter - then you do not need to purchase the small game license.

From: cnelk
02-Apr-19

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From: elkstabber
02-Apr-19
NRs can also purchase a bear license instead of a small game license. CO just lowered the bear license to $100 so it only costs $18 more than the small game license. For many people who are unlikely to use shoot small game this may be a better option.

EDIT: Oops! The bear license doesn't count as a qualifying license, sorry :)

From: PO Cedar
02-Apr-19
Bear tags go on sale August 8th..might not make the application deadline with that option....

From: Hunt98
02-Apr-19
Besides getting more money from hunters, how do they justify requiring a small game license for just getting an elk PP?

From: txhunter58
02-Apr-19
ALL APPLICANTS, INCLUDING YOUTH, MUST PURCHASE A QUALIFYING LICENSE TO APPLY FOR THE BIG GAME DRAW: Qualifying licenses are spring turkey, annual small game, annual resident combination small game/fishing and veteran's lifetime resident combination small game/fishing. Licenses must be valid for the current license year

Where does anyone get that a bear tag would suffice from the above statement? Pretty cut and dried that you have the choices listed above if you want to apply for a tag or point

Hunr98: There are two reasons for the required license. First and foremost: more money. Second: More money. The first money is from us. The second money is from the Feds. They get more dollars for each "license" they sell. Understand now? It is all about the money :-)

From: Bow Bullet
02-Apr-19
Hunt98 - so people will no longer hesitate (if they ever did) to shoot grouse for camp meat.

From: cnelk
02-Apr-19
Hunt98. Would it be better if they called it a Pref Point fee instead of a qualifying license?

From: Ucsdryder
02-Apr-19
Or a hunting license like Idaho? What are other states charging for preference fees for NR? Guts, feathers, and all?

From: elkstabber
03-Apr-19
Hunt98 - the reason that so many states are requiring us to get a license is because they want to maximize the department's income. First, the $$ from the license, but equally important is that the P-R federal funds are distributed to each state's wildlife department according to how many licensed hunters/fishermen there are. So by doing this CO (and recently NM too) increases their number of licensed hunters, which gives them more P-R funds.

If I didn't explain that right please correct me.

From: KC9
03-Apr-19
Oregon, Idaho, Utah, NM, I believe CO is just following suit. I'm sure we'll be looking at Wyoming also in the future.

From: Drnaln
03-Apr-19
In the future Colorado will charge a fee for elk, deer & pronghorn points. All the states are testing the waters to see how much hunters will pay.

From: Brotsky
03-Apr-19
How much will we pay? $109? $209? $509? Where is the cut point? WY for elk and deer for points is cheaper than CO again!

From: Hunt98
03-Apr-19
Thanks everyone for the info.

I begrudgingly paid the $100 for the PP and small game license that will go unused since I don’t plan to step foot in CO this year. I’ll plan to use the PP next year. It is what it is, but I’m done with the PP money grab.

From: Mossyhorn
03-Apr-19
After looking over things last night, I elected to not apply. I have one point for elk and deer. There is nothing worth more than a point in my opinion. So I’ll just wait till maybe next year and burn my deer point. Seems like a waste of money for more points that really won’t do much for me.

From: Paul@thefort
03-Apr-19
Hunt98, it is called, Pay to Play, ie the purchase of the small game and HS first.

From: Jaquomo
03-Apr-19
Brotsky, you're right. The Willingness To Pay threshold is a moving target based upon a whole bunch of variables. When I studied the metrics back in college it was before the internet. Now with all the information available to hunters and managers, they and we have a whole lot more data to plug in to figure out what is worth how much to how many people.

In one of the large private fisheries I manage, we raised the daily guest fishing fee by 30% in one year hoping to cut down on pressure with zero net effect on revenue. Instead, our guest fishing pressure actually increased.

From: Monarchcx
09-Apr-19
Next year I'm putting in for a draw unit and be done with Colorado pref pts.

From: cnelk
09-Apr-19
I just paid $134 for a OTC NonRes turkey tag.

$109 + $25 Habitat for an effin bird

From: Korey Wolfe
09-Apr-19
I'm going to cash out my 15 elk points and 9 mule deer points next year and be done with it. Just not worth it anymore.

From: Fauntleroy
09-Apr-19
Kinda hard for the CPW to stay in the black after the merger with State Parks a few years ago. Heard a testimony at a meeting from a woman stating that every man, woman and child should live no further than 10 minutes away from a state park. Cause that's feasible with enough hunting money.

On the bright side, the moose, sheep and goat odds might normalize this year after the fiasco last year.

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