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Waders for moose hunt?
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Contributors to this thread:
Hessticles 15-Apr-19
Hessticles 15-Apr-19
Tdvorak 15-Apr-19
loesshillsarcher 15-Apr-19
APauls 15-Apr-19
Dale06 15-Apr-19
Tdvorak 15-Apr-19
Bou'bound 15-Apr-19
standswittaknife 16-Apr-19
DanaC 16-Apr-19
t-roy 16-Apr-19
Rgiesey 16-Apr-19
ground hunter 16-Apr-19
Hessticles 16-Apr-19
Buskill 16-Apr-19
foxwillkill 16-Apr-19
wildwilderness 16-Apr-19
Hessticles 16-Apr-19
Treeline 16-Apr-19
wildwilderness 16-Apr-19
cnelk 16-Apr-19
Bou'bound 16-Apr-19
PMcGee 16-Apr-19
ground hunter 16-Apr-19
Hessticles 16-Apr-19
Mule Power 17-Apr-19
Tdvorak 17-Apr-19
wildwilderness 17-Apr-19
wildwilderness 17-Apr-19
Treeline 17-Apr-19
Herdbull 17-Apr-19
jjs 17-Apr-19
Mo/Ark 17-Apr-19
Hessticles 17-Apr-19
altitude sick 18-Apr-19
Kevin Dill 18-Apr-19
Tdvorak 18-Apr-19
Mule Power 18-Apr-19
Hessticles 18-Apr-19
Matt Palmquist 18-Apr-19
Tdvorak 18-Apr-19
Nick Muche 18-Apr-19
Kevin Dill 18-Apr-19
Kevin Dill 18-Apr-19
Beendare 18-Apr-19
From: Hessticles
15-Apr-19
I'm struggling with making a decision on what to take for waders or wading pants on our moose hunt! Sounds like we will be wearing them for the whole trip, the outfitter recommended lacrosse hip boots but not sure how comfortable or heavy they are. What are you guy's recommendations?

From: Hessticles
15-Apr-19
Preferably something that doesn't break the bank, because it might be the only time I use em!

From: Tdvorak
15-Apr-19
I’ve seen this kind of question a lot, here on this forum, at the gun shop/range and at the airport as guys are headed into the field. If your outfitter is suggesting something it would be fool hardy to think he doesn’t know what the best is...unless he’s not a good outfitter in which case it is fool hardy to book a hunt with him. My recommendation is that if you’ve booked the hunt with him already take his advice. He really wants you to be successful. Good luck. I hope you get a great bull.

15-Apr-19
On my hunt last year I used the Cabelas neoprene waist high wader along with their wading boots. I felt like it was a good setup. They were quiet and I hiked along way with them while not in the water. Boots had good tread on them also. Spent around 175? or so I believe.

From: APauls
15-Apr-19
Look for used options. If you don't like them, look for what they are selling for and consider what you could realistically get for a pair of what you want after they were used once. Might be cheaper to buy premium, and dish them after one use, than buy something cheaper and have it sit in the garage after. Plus, the experience is much more enjoyable.

From: Dale06
15-Apr-19
Listen to the outfitter.he and guide probably have 1000s of hours in them.

From: Tdvorak
15-Apr-19
Dale,

It took me a whole paragraph to say what you did in one sentence. Great job!

From: Bou'bound
15-Apr-19
Cabela’s has good options for decent price

16-Apr-19
Cabelas gold water worked good for my buddies. My advice on waders is that we lived in them all day everyday and would be one item I would not think twice about upgrading. Though you will only use them on this trip, having them fail is not an option..

From: DanaC
16-Apr-19
Whatever you buy, bring a patch kit!

From: t-roy
16-Apr-19
I would reach out to Herdbull (Mike Mitten) or Kevin Dill as well. I seem to remember Mike mentioning something about using some sort of material or tape on his waders to make them quieter.

From: Rgiesey
16-Apr-19
Lacrosse ankle fit hip waders is what we wore on a couple float trips. Last trip we only took one pair between 4 of us and we all needed them. Used to use them whitetail hunting around western river systems with a lot of hiking involved. Don’t know the model today but we hiked away from the river with them rolled down billow the knee

16-Apr-19
Number one, listen to the outfitter..... Number 2 do not guide the guide....Number 3, if you can not afford good hip waders, you can not afford your hunt,,,,,, I am in hip waders in the summer and late fall almost daily,,,,,, Do not buy junk, and the ankle fit is important.......

I have found the Cabelas / Herters stocking wader, with wading shoe, to be tough, and its so light, you do not know they are on,,,, that said, buy the Lacrosse like he said, and bring a patch kit,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

do not waste your time with wading pants. wading pants are designed for water crossings,, not for wading or putting on the miles.....

Your going on a tough no nonsense hunt, you need good equipment, not cheap, or you will regret it,,,, your going to be wearing those hip boots all day long,,,,,,,,

good luck, and shoot straight

From: Hessticles
16-Apr-19
I'm not going cheap on anything, just looking for options and I dont want to spend 500+ on something I use once, cant guide the guide either because its unguided ??

From: Buskill
16-Apr-19
I’m partial to waist high waders and good fitting wading boots . They won’t be as tough in thick brush , though . Guess it depends on the terrain .

From: foxwillkill
16-Apr-19
Lacrosse ankle fit hip waders is what we always have used while hunting moose or caribou in Alaska. They have been great. I see no reason to use anything else.

16-Apr-19
I always use my Simms G3 waders and guide boots all the time.

I see no purpose in hip waders- very limiting to me. Hip waders also forget the most important area, your butt! Also you start crossing a creek and its too deep! happens all the time. What if it starts raining? Are you going to put your rain pants over your hip waders? Sit and take a break on a wet log?

I have found its so much easier to have full breathable waders that I wear as pants in wet areas. So much more versatile, ready to go anywhere in any weather, and sit on anything and not get wet. You can easily layer under them depending on conditions, and use them for fishing and duck hunting....

From: Hessticles
16-Apr-19
^^^^^ my thoughts exactly, but the simms are so expensive and it will pry be only time I use them

From: Treeline
16-Apr-19
I have a good set of hip waders that I bought for bear hunting up in Alaska.

They SUCK! I hate them! Continuously getting water over the tops.

I have no idea why anyone would want to wear those things!

I have had a pair of Cabelas waist high breathable waders for over 10 years and used for hunting and fishing from Alaska to Argentina that I have not patched yet. I just bought a new pair a couple of weeks ago. The new ones have better gravel guards. About $100. Much better and more comfortable for hiking around in. Also lets you get in the water a lot deeper and see when you are getting in too deep.

The only downside is that they are noisy. You can put a light pair of hunting pants over them and quiet them down though. They worked great for me hunting bears out of a boat along the coast last time! The neoprene waders are quieter and that may be the route I go next time for Alaska. They are just a lot hotter and you will sweat a lot in them. The neoprene ones are cheaper, too.

Don't scrimp on the wading boots! I have top end Simms wading boots and they are worth the money for long hikes. Best wading boot I have ever owned.

16-Apr-19
I guess you don’t fly fish or duck hunt much never using waders? If this is your first trip to AK, I would think you will go back! Also worth a day or two fishing- I wear waders on the boat of course or in rivers fishing salmon. Any fishing/ hunting in coastal Alaska I plan to wear them since it’s always wet. And half the time on interior hunts I end up using them as well. Redington makes some more affordable ones. Get the zipper model if you have an active bladder, resale value on Simms is higher.

From: cnelk
16-Apr-19

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LaCrosse hippers for me. Insulated, ankle fit.

That water is effin cold. Even walking thru wet willows is cold, standing around calling is cold...

From: Bou'bound
16-Apr-19
Don’t want to spend $500 on something you will only use once?

Out of curiosity How much you spending all in on that one moose hunt?

From: PMcGee
16-Apr-19
I bought Simms for my trip in 2017 and don’t regret it. I don’t use them that much but if I ever go back I have them. I’m sure you’ll be able to sell them after your trip if you don’t think they’re worth keeping. Our trip was a float trip.

16-Apr-19
I have tried to give him my advice,,,, he said he was advised by an outfitter, but seemed to get pissed when I said, listen to your guide..... oh well I wish him well have a great hunt,,,,,, I would not think twice about buying Simms,,,,, oh well I said my peace, I wish him all the best

From: Hessticles
16-Apr-19
Never got pissed, I realize what the transporter recommended! Was just looking at my other options, and what other hunters have experienced!

From: Mule Power
17-Apr-19
Go big or go home... it’s Alaska. Always wet. Obviously you will spend some time sitting while calling, glassing or taking breaks. Buy a pair of Cabelas wading pants. Nothing worse than a wet butt or water going over the top of hip waders. If your boots are my size, 10, I’ll buy them after your hunt! I could use a pair myself. :-)

From: Tdvorak
17-Apr-19
Some of the most entertaining horror stories about hunters getting a bad deal I’ve heard about guided and outfittered hunts were from hunters who aren’t coachable. That is a slippery slope that promised to produce some entertaining disappointment. Hessticles, I think everybody really hopes you have a successful trip...starting with your outfitter. Me too. Be careful on the slippery slope you’re on. There are a LOT of outfitters to choose from. Your outfitter seems sharp from what you’ve told us...I am curious, how did you choose which outfitter to book your hunt with?

17-Apr-19
He is going DIY!! Just using a transporter!!

Also I have met many “outfitters” that don’t know much, and are not up to date on tech or gear, just using and recommending whatever worked in the past. Hip boots are for float plane pilots and tourists! Would never recommend them for a hunt when there are better options.

17-Apr-19
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From: Treeline
17-Apr-19
^^^^^^what Wildwilderness said

From: Herdbull
17-Apr-19
What ever hip boot you decide to use with either rubber, neoprene, or other breathable membrane, you can make them quieter by wrapping the uppers in stealth wrap from Stealth Wrap Outdoors. It is the peal and stick camo material that is used on tree stands so it stands up well to water. Call them and get the wide panel not just the strips. Mike

From: jjs
17-Apr-19
Good ankle support is very important, dealing with tendonitis is not what you want, just my .02 that learned the hard way.

From: Mo/Ark
17-Apr-19

From: Hessticles
17-Apr-19
Tdvorak haha slippery slope? I asked a simple question for options and you and another guy turn it into a reality show! Not going against what the outfitter says just looking at options! What if what he recommends doesn't work for my feet? I guess I'm guiding the guide?

18-Apr-19
Everyone’s feet are different is exactly right. There is know way I’m lugging Lacrosse burlys around. Get a Redington or off brand that still has 3-5 layers of goretex type material if Simms are out. then any oversized synthetic, fast drying hiking boot to wear over the neoprene booty. They do not need to be wading boots. There are no slippery rock crossing where your going. So no need for studded wading boots. It’s Just sponge and small lakes. Then a lightweight quick drying pants over the wader. It protects them and quite them. When you get warm just lower them down for a while. A lot of people still where cotton long johns too. But there are better options.

From: Kevin Dill
18-Apr-19
I hunt moose in a creek or river system every year and I've never worn (or wished for) hip boots or waders to wear every day. That's after a lot of consecutive years and plenty of wet ground in several different moose camps. I'm not advising against them for sure. Just shows they aren't always necessary.

From: Tdvorak
18-Apr-19
Just trying to help my man. I’ve personally taken over 1,400 hunters into the field and I’ve seen some things. Not trying to belittle you, just trying to give a leg up to a fellow hunter who could benefit. We’re all pulling FOR you.

From: Mule Power
18-Apr-19
Tdvorak... I know you’ll find this interesting but there are people out there, especially on Bowsite that are equally as intelligent as you with as much experience stomping around in wild places. Hard to believe I know.

From: Hessticles
18-Apr-19
Haha Mule

18-Apr-19
Buy the simms and sell them when you get home:)

From: Tdvorak
18-Apr-19
Maybe Mule, but I’m personally guiding hunters about 230 days per year and I’ve been at it for 21 years. There might be other guys who are hunting that many days a year but I don’t personally know any. I would never try to snipe at you personally or take away your experience. But I’m not going to be bullied away from defending myself if you single me out. I was trying to help out some readers that might want to know if they should give my opinion a LARGE amount of credit or a SMALL amount of credit. They can decide because they are smart. If you haven’t figured it out, the reader of these posts have a hard time knowing if their opinion is from Einstein or Forest Gump. That is tricky. There are a lot of readers who would like to know where the poster is coming from.

From: Nick Muche
18-Apr-19
Mule for the win!

From: Kevin Dill
18-Apr-19
For the record: I share what I've done and what has or hasn't worked for me. It matters nothing to me if anyone accepts or rejects any of it. Nothing wrong with making your own mistakes and successes. That's how I learned.

From: Kevin Dill
18-Apr-19

From: Beendare
18-Apr-19
Simms pant waders are the best, IMO.

Cheap- the Frogg Togg stocking foot waders are pretty darn good- especially for the price. I cut a chest wader down to make a taller hipper and they were great.

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