Black Gold Sights - Pure Gold
Heading to Shiloh Ranch
Hogs
Contributors to this thread:
BowJangles 17-May-19
Arrowflinger 18-May-19
foxwillkill 18-May-19
Buffalo1 18-May-19
Hammer 18-May-19
INbowdude 20-May-19
BowJangles 21-May-19
bad karma 21-May-19
Kennyc____outdoors 21-May-19
KSBOW 21-May-19
writer 22-May-19
BowJangles 23-May-19
INbowdude 23-May-19
BowJangles 24-May-19
writer 24-May-19
bad karma 30-May-19
BowJangles 11-Jun-19
Buffalo1 11-Jun-19
BowJangles 11-Jun-19
RK 11-Jun-19
BowJangles 11-Jun-19
RK 11-Jun-19
BowJangles 11-Jun-19
RK 11-Jun-19
BowJangles 11-Jun-19
bghunter 11-Jun-19
BowJangles 11-Jun-19
BowhuntKS 12-Jun-19
Fuzzy 12-Jun-19
BowJangles 12-Jun-19
boothill 12-Jun-19
BowJangles 12-Jun-19
Buffalo1 12-Jun-19
BowJangles 12-Jun-19
foxwillkill 12-Jun-19
INbowdude 12-Jun-19
Forest bows 13-Jun-19
KSBOW 13-Jun-19
White Falcon 13-Jun-19
BowJangles 13-Jun-19
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Tejas 13-Jun-19
boothill 13-Jun-19
BowJangles 13-Jun-19
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INbowdude 13-Jun-19
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Kevin @ Wisconsin 19-Jun-19
BowJangles 20-Jun-19
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boothill 20-Jun-19
KSBOW 20-Jun-19
Buffalo1 20-Jun-19
foxwillkill 20-Jun-19
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From: BowJangles
17-May-19
Just booked for June 14-15th with Shiloh Ranch. From all the threads I've read here it's gonna be a blast. It'll be my first time hunting hogs so if any of the vets have any words of wisdom about what to expect I'm all ears.

Cheers!

-Eric

From: Arrowflinger
18-May-19
You will have a great time. Just listen to Matt and Cheryl and you will have a blast and see plenty of hogs! The ranch is a great hunting set up, and you will not meet better people! Have fun!

From: foxwillkill
18-May-19
It will be a great time. Keep us posted on your hunt. Enjoy your first Shiloh experience. It won't be your last.

From: Buffalo1
18-May-19
1. Listen to Matt & Cheryl. 2. Keep the wind in your favor. 3. Don’t let the feeders scare you when they go off.

From: Hammer
18-May-19
You'll have a blast for sure . Watch the wind and like Buffalo 1 mentioned . Be ready when that feeder goes off . Wakes ya right up ! Lol. Post some pics and good luck ! Mike

From: INbowdude
20-May-19
I've been there a few times in June. 1. Bugs will be bad, spray everything with Permithrin (sp) and you will be thankful. 2. Thermocell is a big plus. 3. Hydrate, it will be toasty. 4. Matt & Cheryl & Les are great and they will steer you straight. 5. Everything will be green and the visibility will be low, listen closely to the woods to get a jump on hogs coming in. 6. Feeders will scare you when they go off. 7. Summer hogs eat well, kill a bunch. 8. Enjoy yourself, don't stress out about the hog movement and just take it all in. The hunts are over faster than you think. 9. Take lots of pictures. 10. Swing by Indiana and pick me up! LOL

From: BowJangles
21-May-19
Great info! Thanks man! So we should expect good movement while we're there? Does rain slow them down should I encounter any?

From: bad karma
21-May-19
Hunt in the rain. The rain permits hogs to root better, so they may be moving all day. And don't ignore the stands that are not next to feeders. Rattlesnake Ridge is very productive, as can be the ground blind on the road to 4.

I've killed a number of pigs in rain pouring down so hard I could barely use my binos.

21-May-19
So stoked to go. Cant wait

From: KSBOW
21-May-19
All good info here, if this is your first hog, hunt remember lower and forward than you would shoot a deer. Can't stress low enough, I have literally seen arrow 1/4 inch up from belly and tight leg kill hog faster than any double lung on a deer. Way better to miss low than high

From: writer
22-May-19

From: BowJangles
23-May-19
So Matt mentioned us being in ground blinds. My only goal for this trip is to take an animal with the struggle stick. My Tall Tines is 60" and I was wondering if the ground blinds will accommodate a bow of that length? I cant the bow slightly to the right when I shoot so 58" of clearance should be acceptable. Any ideas?

Also, when you shoot is that pretty much it for that sit or will the hogs trickle back in?

From: INbowdude
23-May-19
KSBOW nailed it, low and right up the leg! Rain, not a problem. Some ground blinds will be better than others. 3 should work, but 7 might be too small. Matt is a trad guy so listen to him. Best of luck!

24-May-19
Eric, all of our ground blinds are tall enough to accommodate a 60" longbow. We also have an elevated stand at each blind location.

From: BowJangles
24-May-19
Sweet, thanks Matt. Can't wait to hit the ground in OK!

From: writer
24-May-19
Eric, Matt and Cheryl hunt traditional gear. They more than know what it takes. As per how the hogs act...no telling. If you drill one with your first arrow it won't make any difference.

From: bad karma
30-May-19
If you think you've put out enough corn, double or triple it.

From: BowJangles
11-Jun-19
So the one pig per outing rule. I didn't understand the rule before Les explained it (some folks kill a little pig first, big pig second and lie about the order) but then he said that's the rule every outing afterwards as well. If I'm paying per pig/per pound why can't I shoot more than one per outing? Anyone have any insight? I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the logic on this one.

-Eric

From: Buffalo1
11-Jun-19
I think the logic is the owner makes the rules.

From: BowJangles
11-Jun-19
Thanks for your input, Greg! Unfortunately I was looking for an answer that was a little more informative from someone that has been there.

From: RK
11-Jun-19
OK Bowjangles I qualify for someone that has been there, actually in spades

Let's first back up To quote "my only goal for this trip is to take one with the struggle stick"

That was a logical statement, prior to to getting into the situation that you got into at Shilo. And that was multiple shot opportunities with any weapon. Having never been in that situation before, instead of being thrilled to death with accomplishing "your only goal for the trip".. faced now with multiple opportunities you wish to redefine the rules of engagements. Classic, lived it seen it so many times.

Now let's follow through with your next problem. You have made the "perfect" shot on a hog so why can't I shoot another, or put another perfect shot on #2 or three or four??

Well who is to say it's the perfect shot? You? The hunter? exactly why the rule is in place. Sometimes it is the perfect shot Sometimes not so much

My suggestion is to enjoy the hunt. Enjoy the successes, enjoy what you have never seen before. And realize the rules are in place for lots of professional reasons, respect that and have a great trip

From: BowJangles
11-Jun-19
Aside from "enjoy the hunt. Enjoy the successes, enjoy what you have never seen before" I followed very little of that response. I'm having trouble understanding why a pay-to-play ranch holds you to one animal per outing and it appears I've come to the wrong place for clarification.

That being said me and the fellas are gonna have a hell of a time this weekend!

Pics and stories to come.......

Cheers!

From: RK
11-Jun-19
Bow

You are the reason pay to play ranches have rules

LMAO!!

From: BowJangles
11-Jun-19
What are you talking about? I asked a very simple question, you reply with a barely coherent response and now "I'm reason pay to play ranches have rules?" What?????

If you came to hurl insults at someone you don't know kindly exit my thread, sir.

From: RK
11-Jun-19
You got your answer. Sometimes hunters have a hard time accepting the truth. It's all good No worries. Enjoy your hunt And safe travels

From: BowJangles
11-Jun-19
What truth?????? What are you talking about???

We will most definitely enjoy our hunt. Thank you!

From: bghunter
11-Jun-19
Hunted with RK, hope to go back one day. All I can say is he knows what the hell most of us could ever hope to when it come to outfitted hog hunts. Never hunted with shilo,but enough good reviews about them to know, that if shilo and RK have rules, there is a reason for them. All I know is when I go on a guided hunt, I listen to the guide. Otherwise I wouldn't be on a guided hunt. Just my 2 cents

From: BowJangles
11-Jun-19
I wouldn't call hunting baited pigs on a fenced ranch a guided hunt. This is just a good time with buddies out of town and in the outdoors .

Of course there is a reason for the rule and I'm asking what that reason is. Yet all I've received are smart ass answers, incoherent responses and insults. Thanks fellas!

Again, it's clear I'm not going to get an intelligent answer so let's just leave it at that.

12-Jun-19
Bowjangles, you may have misunderstood Les. It is true, 1st hog is what ever size...no trophy fees for poundage, teeth or any other specific characteration. Since the 2nd, hog is by the pound, people could (and have) shot a larger hog and tried to swap them to pay poundage on first smaller hog. Seems the confusion is either with Les miscommunication with you or you misunderstood him. Either way, the rest of the hunt you may shoot more than 1 hog because the rest of them is by the pound. So, you are correct in that since. Just come have a great hunt! Hope this helps! :-)

From: BowhuntKS
12-Jun-19
Yep, makes sense, good rule. Kill your first hog and get it hauled to camp. After that fill the buggy if you want and pay the per pound price. Sure wish I was hunting and not reading about it. Been to Shiloh I think 12 times. Great hunting, and it is a hunt, do not expect it to be easy. Great camp and hosts. And, I have never encountered a rule that did not make sense. Have a great hunt and good luck!

From: Fuzzy
12-Jun-19
you'll love it

From: BowJangles
12-Jun-19
That makes perfect sense Matt! I knew either or Les or I had not heard each other correctly. Thank you for clearing that up.

We’re all super excited to come out. It’s all we’ve been talking about since we booked! See y’all Friday.

Stay tuned for pics and stories!

From: boothill
12-Jun-19
Bowjangles have a great time and just let the hunt happen as it may. I have found out the last few times down there the ground blinds can be more effective than the ladder stands. It helps contain your scent better and the wind is your biggest enemy. The air currents can swirl in those oak trees like nothing I've ever seen. The breeze will be straight in your face yet if you use a puffer bottle or something to test it next thing you know it is wrapping around and right back at the feeder. Haven't been there since December and having withdrawals something terrible. Post lots of pics for us poor folks at work.

From: BowJangles
12-Jun-19
Thanks for the advice boothill! I’ll get tons of pics up.

From: Buffalo1
12-Jun-19
Bowjangles,

Just for the record, I have hunted at Shiloh. Before you go out to hunt, you will attend a meeting and the hunting rules will be shared with you by Matt & Cheryl. It is also a time for the hunter to ask questions and to get understanding/ clarification on rules.

Shiloh is a very organized, professional and successful operation. You will have a good time and a great hunt. Everyone there will work toward you success.

Best of luck. Looking forward to your hunt posting.

From: BowJangles
12-Jun-19
Thanks Greg! I totally agree with your assessment of Shiloh. So far Matt and Cheryl have been fantastic.

I’ve never given much thought to hog hunting but now that I’ve actually got a hunt booked I’m down right giddy! I’ve gotta be annoying the buddies I’m going with as much as I talk about it. Lol.

We’ll keep y’all posted and thank you to everybody that shared your personal insights and opinions on how to hunt these things.

Cheers!!!

From: foxwillkill
12-Jun-19
I look forward to the report and pictures. Enjoy every minute.

From: INbowdude
12-Jun-19
Been to Shiloh once or twice myself. One of my favorite things is walking back to camp in the dark, listening to the hogs in the woods. You will have a blast!

From: Forest bows
13-Jun-19
Pop corn any one?

From: KSBOW
13-Jun-19
Good luck I found Shiloh on bowsite after looking for something to cure the off season blues. Now I have the off season shiloh blues. The most important thing I can tell you is have fun, and aim a lot lower and foward on a hog than you do on any deer you have shot. My firs couple of trips I shot hogs that I considered to be perfect shots, would have been double lung on a deer and dead in sight. Not so much on a hog, shot one last winter the arrow was literally 1/2" in the hog, tight to shoulder didn't make out of sight. Good luck and have fun!!

From: White Falcon
13-Jun-19
Thermacell will be a must!

From: BowJangles
13-Jun-19

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13-Jun-19

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From: Tejas
13-Jun-19
Damn.....flying in to hunt pigs??? Y’all must want to kill one awful bad!! Good luck with it!

From: boothill
13-Jun-19
Might just as well rent you a car and head to Twin Peaks for lunch on I-40 West as it isn't far from the airport. That is the normal on the way home lunch spot for us anyway.

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13-Jun-19

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13-Jun-19
No pigs to chase back in VA so we have to head out of state. Plus it’s a good reason to get away from the wives for a weekend!

From: INbowdude
13-Jun-19
Good luck guys! Looking forward to your report.

From: INbowdude
19-Jun-19
Update?

19-Jun-19
I'm guessing he didn't follow Rob's advice..

From: BowJangles
20-Jun-19
There was actual advice in those nonsensical responses? Where???

In a nutshell Shiloh was amazing! We were the first guys in camp with Jon and Linda at the wheel and I couldn't have been more pleased with the hospitality or the experience.

On to the story.....

So the day prior to the hunt we hit the ground in OK to gorgeous weather. After making our way to Ada we grabbed some lunch and a room. They had a decent sized concrete pad and we were able to sling a few arrows to make sure things were still dialed in. Afterwards we threw back a few beers and called it a day. The next am we got up, had breakfast at Prairie Kitchen and made our way to camp after check out. When we get to camp we're greeted by Les and Jon and head over to the cabin area for orientation. After we got the paperwork squared away we suited up and made our way to the blinds. At this point is was in the mid 70's and heading to the low 80's by the afternoon. We wrapped the paperwork up around 12 and in all honesty probably should have held tight at camp until the evening. More on that in a minute....

So after looking over the map and picking our blinds we headed out. Kenny was first to be dropped off, next was Brian, then me way back at 4. After Brian and I dropped off Kenny at his blind we came up on a group of pigs bedded in the shade. There were 2 ~100lb pigs milling about. After some brief discussion we both agreed that if we were seeing pigs this early in the hunt we'd wait for something a little bigger. I dropped Brian off and made my way to 4. By the time I get set up it was around 12:45-1ish. With the feeder set to go off at 5 i had plenty of time to sit........and sweat! This is were a bit more patience would have paid off I believe. So time ticks by and a few piglets roamed through as well as one doe that apparently was in love with me. Once she laid eyes on me she never left. 5 o'clock comes and the feeder sprays. I'm expecting a mad dash of hogs at any second but get nothing. 5:15 still nothing. 5:30. Nothing. Finally around 6:30 I had a group of piglets come through and I'm scanning the background for mature pigs......zero! Around 7 i can see bigger pigs off in the distance with seemingly no intention of coming in. Bottom line is that I had stunk the place to high hell. Between the swirling wind and my skin leaking like a sieve the gig was up. By being so anxious and going out too early I think I ruined the sit by spreading so much scent. The first evening was a bust for Brian and I. Kenny however came up with a 115lb boar at 30 yards right before last light and we had pig for the fire! He put a devastating shot on his pig and it was dispatched within 40 yards of the impact. We get the boar back to camp, undress him and get some back straps on the grill. It was by far the freshest, most flavorful pig I've ever tasted!!

After some back straps, a few cold beers and a cool shower we packed it in for the night.

Before knocking off for the night we came up with a plan for the next am and set the alarms for 5. I was heading to 5a, Kenny to 1 and Brian to 6.

After getting set up in 5a the feeder spits corn right on cue at 6:45. The deer are already staged and waiting for breakfast and go to work. The air is cool and the wind is directly in my face. I have a good feeling about this sit. The pigs took a while to show up and I could immediately tell they were uneasy. I couldn't figure it out. The wind was good, I wasn't sweaty, I was wearing black and wasn't moving. It didn't make sense. I had 2 groups of good sized pigs come in only to hang up in the trees and move on. WTH! I felt like there was something super obvious that I was missing but could put my finger on it.

Then it happened!

I nice oreo colored sow bombed into the corn from the left of the blind only clearing the window by a hair. I came to full draw and sent my Carnivore though the pig. After all the reading I had done on shot placement for pigs my repetitions from deer hunting took over. The shot I put on the pig would have 12 ringed a deer but was a bit far back for swine. I had a track job on my hands.....

I called Les and off we went. We picked up blood quickly and got to it. A half mile later we lost it. I felt sick! I had done all the reading, watched all the shot placement videos, looked at numerous anatomy charts, had the pig inside 20 yards and still, for some reason, I still shot the animal as if it was a deer. Frustrating. Les got a call from Brian saying he had stuck one and wanted an assist with his track as well and took off to lend a hand. With my hat in my hand I struck out to try and walk along the path I assumed the pig had taken in hopes of getting lucky and wadda-ya-know! I found her laying 60 yards past were Les had stopped. Needless to say a wave of relief washed over me. She wasn't a monster in any sense but a cool looking pig nonetheless. Brian's track job was nothing more than a 35 yard stroll to his sow and she was much healthier! His shot had the same up and down as mine but was maybe 3 inches tighter to the shoulder and it crushed her. Placement truly is everything. Kenny was wrapped up in pigs all morning and since he already had his in the freezer he didn't see a pig that tickled his fancy and passed harvesting an animal.

We got the pigs back to camp and went to work. Brian's sow came in at 140lbs and mine tipped the scales at 96lbs. Being my first pig I was more than pleased, as was Brian. Once we broke the pigs down we kicked back for a bit to talk about the morning hunt and have a bite to eat before heading back out. It was another hot day and after seeing the pigs avoid me like the plague on day 1 I felt like I knew better than to rush back to the blind and stink the joint up again.

The evening hunt!

So like before we all picked blinds and headed back out. I decided on 4. Since I had my harvest with the compound I headed out with the recurve. Once I got to 4 I scattered a few bags of corn 12-15 yards in front of the blind and waited. About 6:45 I heard pigs and got ready. With a Gold Tip nocked I picked the bow up waiting for a pig to come into sight. My heart felt like it was taking a doing jumping jacks. Having never harvested an animal with the recurve I was ultra nervous. After what felt like days a nice sized pig cleared the window. I drew back, anchored and let the arrow loose. At 12 yards the VPA hit perfectly! The pig let out a quick sequel, ran 30-35 yards and fell stone dead!!! I was on the board with the struggle stick!! Now since that bow is so quite the pigs didn't really seem to know what had happened. They ran off briefly but quickly filtered back in. I nocked another arrow and hoped one more pig would make a mistake. Within 2-3 minutes of me shooting my first pig another one was in the window at 7 yards. The Tall Tines went off again! This arrow was the best of the 3 and the pig was down inside of 25 yards. I couldn't have been happier. 2 quick, clean harvests with my recurve! Mission Accomplished!!!

Brian also tagged a nice boar from his stand and after a quick call to Les the meat wagon was in route. We got back to camp, snapped a ton of pics, threw a few high fives, cracked a couple beers and got to work taking them apart. Our flight the next day took off at 5am so we had a quick turnaround. Once we had the meat squared away we buttoned up our stuff and got ready for the trip back east.

Overall I couldn't have been more pleased with the trip start to finish. Jon and Linda were very down to earth folks that you can talk to like you've known them forever, the cabins were super comfortable and the hunting was a blast. That being said summer time is not the time to hog hunt! I felt like I stunk the entire time I was there and that every pig in the woods knew exactly where I was.

From: BowJangles
20-Jun-19
I've got lots of good pics but for some reason the site throws an error when I try uploading them from both my PC and my phone.

From: boothill
20-Jun-19
Glad you had a great hunt Bowjangles! So did they stand out there and growl or silently stand in the brush just waiting? Usually if one hog will take the bait they will come in.

From: KSBOW
20-Jun-19
Sounds like the Shiloh we all know and love, one minute your covered in hogs at your feeder. All the minutes leading up too that magic time you are cussing all the hogs your seeing that aren't committing to the feeder. Sounds like a great trip!!!

From: Buffalo1
20-Jun-19
Bowjangles & crew,

Congrats on a great trip.

From: foxwillkill
20-Jun-19
Congrats on a great hunt. Looking forward to pictures

From: Beav
20-Jun-19
Sounds like one hell of a trip! Congrats!

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20-Jun-19
Not sure why the pics are posting blurry but here they are. Me and the boys had an absolute blast and can't wait to head back to camp! Up next: Blacktails in Oregon!!!!!!!!

From: INbowdude
20-Jun-19
Way to go guys! Looks like you all had an awesome hunt. You haven't lived until you've hunted hogs in triple digits. Congrats.

From: BowJangles
20-Jun-19
Thanks Jeff. The blacktail hunt already has me up nights!

Mike those are some serious pigs you knocked down. Wow!!!! Congrats!

21-Jun-19
I'm glad you guys had a blast here on the Shiloh. We will be glad to have ya back.

From: boothill
22-Jun-19
Bowjangles glad you guys had a great time. That place has been a home away from home for quite awhile for many of us. Glad Les was there to take care of you. Won’t find a nicer guy anywhere.

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