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American Archer Vortex 100 Grain 2.0
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Contributors to this thread:
Ward's Outfitters 23-May-19
kota-man 23-May-19
midwest 23-May-19
sticksender 23-May-19
Ward's Outfitters 23-May-19
x-man 23-May-19
smarba 23-May-19
Ward's Outfitters 23-May-19
Scoot 23-May-19
Ucsdryder 23-May-19
Brotsky 23-May-19
Ucsdryder 23-May-19
kota-man 23-May-19
Hawkeye 23-May-19
Trial153 23-May-19
Ambush 23-May-19
Ward's Outfitters 23-May-19
Brotsky 23-May-19
Ward's Outfitters 23-May-19
Trial153 23-May-19
wkochevar 23-May-19
Ambush 23-May-19
Ucsdryder 23-May-19
Ward's Outfitters 23-May-19
BOHNTR 23-May-19
Nick Muche 23-May-19
Scoot 23-May-19
midwest 23-May-19
Matt 23-May-19
AZBUGLER 23-May-19
Bowfreak 24-May-19
ground hunter 24-May-19
BOWNBIRDHNTR 24-May-19
Forest bows 24-May-19
krieger 24-May-19
APauls 24-May-19
spike78 24-May-19
Ermine 15-Apr-20
Empty Freezer 15-Apr-20
Drnaln 15-Apr-20
Matt 15-Apr-20
Jethro 15-Apr-20
Grubby 15-Apr-20
Drnaln 15-Apr-20
Kurt 15-Apr-20
Shug 15-Apr-20
Empty Freezer 15-Apr-20
ki-ke 15-Apr-20
Coyote 65 15-Apr-20
Ward's Outfitters 16-Apr-20
Scooby-doo 16-Apr-20
Jim Southwick 18-Apr-20
23-May-19

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The American Archery Vortex 100 grain All Steel 2.0 is available for preorder at a discounted rate. The heads will ship prior to June 1st. The 100 grain all steel has been in the testing phases for over a year now and has been designed to take on the largest game without failure.

From: kota-man
23-May-19
"All heads fail at some point." "A sharp 4 blade fixed head will never fail." I'm confused...

From: midwest
23-May-19
"Just my opinion means nothing "

Agreed.

From: sticksender
23-May-19
Vortex heads have withstood the test of time and have long-since been proven to be among the toughest.

Similarly, those eager to critique products they've never used, have long since been proven as trolls.

23-May-19
Pat How sir do you assume they will Fail?

From: x-man
23-May-19
Even if you weld this head closed so it's not mechanical, it is still a two blade head with sharp cutting surfaces. Something most other mechanical's do not offer.

From: smarba
23-May-19
By Pat's definition I'm not sure whey he bothers to shoot a bow, or hunt at all, because somehow, someday, one of his pieces of equipment will fail...

23-May-19
Pat you are correct that anything can fail. My promise to you is that, Vortex will always deploy, Blades and Ferrell will not break on an animal.

From: Scoot
23-May-19
Pat your responses are dizzying! I agree with midwest!

From: Ucsdryder
23-May-19
Is the 100gr shorter than the 125? Trying to figure out where the 25 grains comes out.

From: Brotsky
23-May-19
I see threads like this and it reminds me of how wise the old saying "if you have nothing good to say keep your mouth shut" is.

From: Ucsdryder
23-May-19
Pot meet kettle.

I don’t remember wards asking you for you opinion pat. Was there a question in the Op asking for your 2 cents?

From: kota-man
23-May-19
Only one troll here, and it isn't Brotsky...My ordered has been placed.

From: Hawkeye
23-May-19
Will definitely give these a go come fall. Had nothing but good luck with Vortex through the years. Looks like a solid head and thanks Steve!

From: Trial153
23-May-19
I like the improvements...good work

From: Ambush
23-May-19
What is the blade thickness?

23-May-19
Ucsdryder If you look at the photo attached you will see the body had material strategically removed from the 125 grain 2.0 all steel

From: Brotsky
23-May-19
Pat, if you didn’t care you wouldn’t have taken the time to respond. Go shoot your bow, drink a beer, enjoy some springtime weather. It’s all better than bitching online about something you’re not going to change anyone’s mind about.

23-May-19
Ambush The blades are 32/1000

From: Trial153
23-May-19
Its not that we don't like your opinion. Its the nobody asked your opinion nor wanted it.

From: wkochevar
23-May-19
My order has been in..just waiting on the goods!

From: Ambush
23-May-19
So .032” thick?

I’m not a two blade fan (of any design) but definitely prefer a good mechanical. Might give these a try.

If it’s ok with pat that is.

From: Ucsdryder
23-May-19
Pat you sir are a dense individual. Here’s the issue. A sponsor comes on and posts a new Broadhead that many people are excited about with a pre-order opportunity at a discounted rate and out of nowhere you come on and start bashing his Broadhead. It’s not the time nor place to discuss mechanical vs fixed. And it’s a free country but freedom of speech only lasts so far on here.

Thanks wards for sponsoring the site and I really like the looks of that head.

23-May-19
It's all good guys. Pat is simply stating his opinion. I appreciate a good debate at times. Keep in mind the discounted rate is only good until June 1st.

From: BOHNTR
23-May-19
They look good, Steven.......keep rockin’ it my friend!

From: Nick Muche
23-May-19
I love a good Pat thread as of late. Never anything good to say but it’s damn sure funny watching him dig his hole deeper.

From: Scoot
23-May-19
Haha Nick nailed it! A whole series of examples of "idiots say idiotic things"! Him calling Brotsky a troll is really quite comical. A significant positive contributor being called names by a significant detractor of the place. Too funny!

From: midwest
23-May-19
"I’m an asshole! Ha."

Wow, two posts on one thread I agree with you!

From: Matt
23-May-19
I had a 4 blade COC head fail on game, but never a Vortex.

Not to say it couldn't, just that I've shot a lot more game with Vortex than with 4 blade COC's with fewer failures.

From: AZBUGLER
23-May-19
Top notch product with proven results! And saying that all mechanicals will fail, but a fixed blade won’t is horse crap. Plenty of fixed blades are complete and utter failures!

From: Bowfreak
24-May-19
It's a simple design but it flat out works. I'll be hunting with Vortex this fall.

24-May-19
AZBugler +1

From: BOWNBIRDHNTR
24-May-19
I can be ass myself....but I do try to keep my head out of the hole, especially in public.

Spent a lot of time with Steven Ward as well. Makes a terrific broadhead, die hard guide and hunter, dedicated family man and has to problem standing up for himself, his family and friends, or his livelihood to the likes of alias "Pat".

From: Forest bows
24-May-19
The only broadhead that is ever failed me was a cut on contact 4 blade muzzy. it was in front of a heavy arrow and I was bringing so much kinetic energy that the tips were folding over blunt when I was hitting ribs killing all of my penetration. My son was shooting the same head had the same results on the same trip to Africa.

From: krieger
24-May-19
Forest has a better reputation and more integrity than you will earn here in the next 50 years, if you could last that long. I take his word as fact, he's not the only one that has had bad experiences with some fixed heads, I would rather shoot a Vortex than a Muzzy any day.

From: APauls
24-May-19
Man my brain went just a full loop for.

Steve those heads look really good. Always wanted to try some, but the exchange and shipping really kills a Canadian these days. Congrats on the design I hope it does really well for you. Big fan of stainless ferrules.

From: spike78
24-May-19
Eh Muzzy is old news No comparison to Slick Tricks. Besides didn’t Rage buy Muzzy? All China made now.

From: Ermine
15-Apr-20
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15-Apr-20
I have been shooting them for 2 years now. Unfortunately only at targets. They really are well made and shoot like darts. I superglue the blades in place for my target heads. One of these days an animal will stand still long enough for me to shoot it. Please, please, please lord..

From: Drnaln
15-Apr-20
How did the super glue work? I bought some but couldn't practice with them so never took them hunting. I asked about making a practice head but couldn't get one.

From: Matt
15-Apr-20
I tried super glue back in the day and it didn't hold for more than a couple/few shots. Epoxy maybe? Floss and metal ties they used to have a the grocery store veggie section didn't work too well either.

My solution was just to buy some more o-rings and designate a couple of heads as practice heads. I have since quit practicing with them because they hit the same POI as field points within archery range.

Tip: the aluminum ferrule heads will eventually get a little burr at the base of the blade slot from the blades slamming open and these burrs eat o-rings. A little work with a fine file every few shots keeps them humming.

One thing that exercise really taught me is how unlikely the claim of blades not opening were. I couldn't keep the heads from deploying no matter how hard I tried.

From: Jethro
15-Apr-20
I've done the super glue on blades to make a practice head. Works good.

From: Grubby
15-Apr-20
I was thinking about ordering some and now i am definitely....... I just wish I could have read the missing posts!!

From: Drnaln
15-Apr-20
I tried the bread ties & small zip ties that was recommended. They were a pain to deal with. I'll try to glue a couple shut & try that. Thanks

From: Kurt
15-Apr-20
Who is Pat??

From: Shug
15-Apr-20
Last season was the first that I used an expandable. (Vortex 125 steel) I bent the blades on a used one where they lay inside the body and they hold themselves in tight enough that they don’t open in flight. After each shot I just close it up with pliers and that works fine.

15-Apr-20
Use a heavy super glue. I use Gorilla Gel. I just like shootin broadheads sometimes. I only shoot the 2" Steel 100's. Good Luck

From: ki-ke
15-Apr-20

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I used Vortex heads for the 1st time last season. Stole them from Shug......(don't tell him)

I shot a few whitetails with them. Flawless performance, all but one complete passthrough. On the one that didn't make two holes, it was a head on shot out of a high stand. I was at full draw when the doe stopped and decided to look up the tree I was in. She did that to every tree she passed on the way in. As soon as her chin cleared the throat patch, I released.....Besides the grotesque entry hole, the head completely severed 4 ribs and lodged in the sternum. For a pile of bone encounter, I believe the blades remained in decent shape. The edge of both blades was amazingly intact.

Only complaint I have is that they could certainly be sharper out of the box. I disassembled every head and sharpened each blade, which was a bit of a chore, but beyond that, I like them well enough to buy more!

From: Coyote 65
15-Apr-20
I can attest to the toughness of the broadhead. I centerpunched a chainlink fence post, did not get a pass thru, the blades deployed and stopped the head. One of the blades was bent, the rest of the head was ok the point was ok, If I had a spare set of blades I could have swapped them in and been confident with the broadhead.

This was on a 125 gr. in the 90's, and I am sure they have gotten.

Terry

16-Apr-20
Guys thanks for the feed back. I have found that the gel Super Glue works great with keeping the blades shut. We still recommend you have the o-ring in place even if the blades are glued shut. This year starting in June The American Archer hosted by Tom Nelson will be airing new shows using Vortex Broadheads. if you get a chance and have the Outdoor channel be sure to watch and see some amazing blood trails.

From: Scooby-doo
16-Apr-20
Try a shoulder shot on a 250# whitetail and see how much penetration you get. Not that you should but mistakes happen. I would much rather shoot a 3 on 1- 3 blade and take my chances. Shawn

18-Apr-20
Placed my order, cant wait.

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