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Small Diameter arrows that important?
Elk
Contributors to this thread:
92dawg 01-Jun-19
ohiohunter 01-Jun-19
JTreeman 01-Jun-19
3dvapor 01-Jun-19
wyobullshooter 01-Jun-19
Franklin 01-Jun-19
Matt 01-Jun-19
dingo 01-Jun-19
JTV 01-Jun-19
Ermine 01-Jun-19
trophyhill 01-Jun-19
BOHNTR 01-Jun-19
92dawg 02-Jun-19
Owl 02-Jun-19
trophyhill 02-Jun-19
ground hunter 02-Jun-19
ElkNut1 02-Jun-19
joehunter8301 02-Jun-19
Treeline 02-Jun-19
From: 92dawg
01-Jun-19
Guys, I'm trying to get set up for elk and need opinions on arrow setup...I shoot a PSE Evolve 35 set at 65lbs and a 29.5 inch draw. I have a new set of 300 spine 5mm FMJ's that weigh 520 grains with a 125 grain head, and they seem to fly just ok....but they are so heavy that I can't get the FOC I'd like to have. I also have a half dozen Gold Tip Pro Hunters that would come in at 470 grains if I added a 50 grain insert along with a 125 grain head, and result in an FOC around 14-15%. I'd honestly prefer the latter setup but all the buzz is around better penetration with small diameter arrows...does it really make that much of a difference? Thanks in advance for your thoughts-

From: ohiohunter
01-Jun-19
I wouldn’t let shaft diameter deter you from building your most confident arrow. If you want the foc then get it. Basically shoot the arrow you have most confidence in, all the finer details will not be a deciding factor if you put a good shot on an elk. Don’t forget guys kill elk with wood shafts and aluminum logs, 0.010” diameter ain’t gonna matter.

From: JTreeman
01-Jun-19
Exactly that ^^^

—Jim

From: 3dvapor
01-Jun-19
I shot the pierce platinum from gold tip for a couple seasons and i wasnt impressed. Both bulls i shot with them the arrow snapped on impact. One bull was facing and the other broadside shoulder. I noticed something similar hitting a log at a 3d shoot. I went back to easton accs.

01-Jun-19
Don’t sweat the small stuff. If you prefer the latter, and they fly good, then shoot the latter. BTW, for someone with a 26” DL, I don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for someone concerned with penetration that has a 29 1/2” DL. ;-). You’ll be just fine.

From: Franklin
01-Jun-19
For my entire bowhunting duration I have shot bigger diameter aluminum arrows and have never had any of these so called "penetration issues".

IMO it`s so minute I would be willing to use the term "myth". A small diameter does have it`s benefits in certain situations like wind but penetration....no.

From: Matt
01-Jun-19
Shoot what you feel comfortable with. Guys were killing game with no problems for decades before FOC was even a thing. Internet mental masturbation...

From: dingo
01-Jun-19
My experience has been that heavier arrows have better penetration... smaller diameter have less drift in the wind. Shoot in a variety of conditions, positions, and clothing so you have confidence in your ability.

From: JTV
01-Jun-19
470 grs is fine for elk with a good COC head, esp. if you have some speed and momentum behind it and at your poundage/bow specs you will be fine .. .. I'm now over 20 years shooting Goldtip Hunter XT's/Velocitys XT's and the Pro series ... but if you Take the XT's and cut to your desired arrow length from both ends, you will have your "pro's ... are small diameter arrows important, no they are not, but they can have less wind drift in windy open plains conditions... myself, I'd stick with the GT Hunters/XT's no matter where I'd hunt in the US ..

From: Ermine
01-Jun-19

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I think the small diameter arrows do preform better in windy conditions. Not all hunting occurs in the wind but out here in the west, wind does occur

From: trophyhill
01-Jun-19
I would think at your draw length, a 340 spine arrow would be the ticket. I too shoot 29-1/2" draw length and shoot 340's.....

From: BOHNTR
01-Jun-19
“Internet mental masturbation”.......Ha. :) That is classic, Matt!

As for the arrow diameter.....do what others have suggested.....shoot what performs well for you. Heck, my first bull was shot with a 2514 log and had no issues with performance.

From: 92dawg
02-Jun-19
Thanks gents...think I might have some FMJ Pro's up for sale soon... Trophyhill, what grain broadhead are you shooting? I shoot 340's in the Hunter XT for deer with a 100grain head. I just assumed with 175 up front I'd need to go stiffer.

From: Owl
02-Jun-19
I don't even weigh or calculate my arrow weight, anymore. Heretical as that sounds, it is a rather institutionalized detail, now. If I get nerdy about anything these days, it's going to be grading.

From: trophyhill
02-Jun-19
92, gotcha, I use 100 gr heads for everything.

02-Jun-19
I agree with Franklin on this

From: ElkNut1
02-Jun-19
It really doesn't matter much as hunters! Like others I've taken elk with about everything, all do their intended job.

I use the VAP small diameter shafts these days with 200 grains up front because I want to not because I need to. They're tough as hell & they supply me with the personal confidence I need.

ElkNut/Paul

02-Jun-19
Way over thinking it. You will kill with either. Shoot the one you like better. I’ve killed a few elk in the with 418 grain gold tip pro hunters with no issues

From: Treeline
02-Jun-19
Killed plenty of elk with 425 grain regular diameter arrows. Also with the old skinny carbons, cedar, fiberglass, and tapered carbon shafts.

With 55-70# longbows...

Pretty sure whatever broadhead and arrow setup that you can get to fly well out of your bow will be more than enough for elk.

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