Antler growth debateContributors to this thread:
fubar racin 22-Jul-19
'Ike' (Phone) 22-Jul-19
Grey Ghost 22-Jul-19
Velvet muley 23-Jul-19
Mike B 23-Jul-19
Velvet muley 29-Jul-19
So, after collecting our latest round off trailcam pics, my buddy and I started a healthy debate about antler growth. He believes that the bulls We got pictures of will add 20-30 more inches of growth before archery opener, September 1st. Even though I know they’re about a month out from peeling their velvet, I argued that the amount of antler they gain between now and then will be negligible. What do you all think?
Edit the opening date to August 31st - sorry.
Bigger bulls are virtually done by late July is what I’ve always been told.
I am not a biologist....got nothing to offer. Nice pics!!! MORE PLEASE! ;)
The picture you posted is dated June 15. If you are talking about antler growth from that time your friend is probably right. If you are talking about from today, I agree that the bigger bulls are already finished.
Bulls around my place will generally be all rubbed out by the second week of August.
This picture was July 6. A couple people that know a lot more about elk than me said they thought he was getting close to being done. It looks like bulls start and finish growing at different times because I saw another bull that had huge fronts but barely had 3rds on the same trip!
Brun brings up a good point - I muffed setting the date; it was actually July 15th.
If you divided "20-30 more inches" over all the measurements that you use to score a P&Y bull.....it`s actually a small amount of growth.
Just divide it by the 12 tine points on a 6x6 and it`s not a lot either.
So it`s possible....I guess.
If they strip velvet off from mid to late August. I would think he is basically done growing around the middle of July.
Guys I've been wondering about this for a long time and I've got some pictures from this year that are pretty interesting. I'm first posting some trail cam shots from June 4. The date shown is clearly wrong. Then I will post some shots of a bull which we believe to be the same one taken on July 19. It's pretty clear he's about done growing.
Now for the shots taken a few days ago. Score estimates are welcome also.
Wow Brun. Showoff!!
Brun - looks to me like main beams stayed about the same, but tine length increased pretty substantially. I’ma guess he’s in the 330”-ish range. You should slip a broadhead between his ribs come Seltember and tell me how close I am:)
I’m curious what you all think the bull in my photo would score as well. I’ma guess 265”, give or take...
Poudre that bull crushes 330”. Look at the fronts and 3rds. That bulls is ridiculous.
Yeah, 330’s crap themselves when that bull is on the same mtn. That’s every bit 380 probably more.
From: fubar racin
Poudre he peters out quick moving back your probably pretty close in the 265 guess. More than big enough for me to let the air outta him!
Ucsd, you’re absolutely right. I have no business even guessing on a bull that size. I just don’t see them that big to even give me a frame of reference. I still hope Brun kills him and I’m shy by 40-50”...
Ucsdryder, I agree that bull is well north of 330. Several friends have looked at these photos and all agree. I hope to find out in Sept. Poudre, I think you are pretty close on your bull depending on how much his top end grows.
From: 'Ike' (Phone)
From: Grey Ghost
I’ve got Bruns bull at 375, if he doesn’t break anything off. If he had more width and longer mains, he’d be pushing 400.
From: Velvet muley
He’s a toad! 380’s no problem!
With 21 scorables on a Typical 6 x 6 ~~ I think an inch more of growth is definitely doable in the next month.
Good luck, Robb
I see almost no growth from here on in my experience. The Brun bull, being in velvet, lacks mass. Great structure. I’d gross him near 370.
Brun that’s such a great bull
If the tips, esp. upper tips are still bulbous, he's still growing. If they are pointed, they are almost done lengthening. As long as there is a blood supply, they are laying down hardening minerals (calcium), and getting denser, maybe not longer. If the velvet is dried out, he's done growing.
From: Mike B
Any thoughts on how this chap would score?
Impossible to tell from that pic. Awesome bull with character though.
Roosie - love the color and antler characteristics. I'd go 270"
Brun he's gonna gross right at 375".
Brun -- great bull.
I'm guessing a 350-360 class.
Look at the tips. If bulbous they are still growing. Getting tapered they are pretty much done and hardening off. Brow tines and secondaries etc. were pretty much done. Still had a bit to go on the tops, maybe another couple inches or more? Doubt 20-30 more as so much already done. Growth is not symmetrical or even. The closer to the pedicle the sooner they are done growing.
Dandy bulls for sure. Wow.
I think those pics are photoshopped. ;-)
This weekend I swear I was seeing white tips.....looked like they were starting to lose their velvet.
Elk pretty much done by first week in August, whitetails done no later than late august depending on where they are. Shawn
From: Velvet muley
270”?? Have you been hitting the Gonga????
270 on the Roosevelt, not Bruns... :) Mike B asked...
VM, 174 moons have passed through the sky since that last pull...