Tight Spot Quivers
1 Ton vs 1/2 Ton Truck
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From: BULELK1
09-Aug-19

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Well hell--------->

I'm downsizing in a truck now.

I sold my 2010 F350 V-10 for $15,250 with 98,632 miles on it.

Good luck, Robb

From: BULELK1
09-Aug-19

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I kept the winter tread/Rims tires, but I did include the roof rack.

From: BULELK1
09-Aug-19
Then in like 24 hours I sold my 2007 22FBLite Toy Hauler for $7,200.00

I got to only using it once a year so it had been a great camp over the many years but it was time for it to go.

Now to find a new truck-------->

From: BULELK1
09-Aug-19
I was going to order a new 2019 but it go so far into the summer that every dealer was telling me to give it a month and go with a 2020 Model

A new 2020 F350 regular cab 6.2 gas engine ect was right @ $53k...…..Nah, not for me as I had been spoiled having the V10 on my last 3 F350's and I just didn't need the 1 ton anymore.

So I started looking at other options for downsizing in a truck.

From: BULELK1
09-Aug-19
It came down to a Toyota Tacoma but for me, that dink size truck bed was worthless so I needed the longer bed and I had to get one from another dealer sent in that had the longer bed so I'm like Okay, let me sleep on it as it was kissing $47k, for a 2020 1/4 ton truck.

My ex had 2 Tacoma's over the years and they had been great for her and we did get her the longer bed on her 2nd one, much better.

Then I stopped at my Jeep dealer to get my new iPhone XR sinc with my 2017 Wrangler and there on the showroom floor was one of those new 2020 Jeep Gladiators, 1/2 ton.

It had already on it the Mopar/Fox warranty lift kit, bigger/high end 18's and tires and a sprayed in bed liner for $2,680.00 more than the basic Tacoma I was considering to buy.

No Brainer for me!!

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09-Aug-19

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Delivery Day @ the Dealer
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Delivery Day @ the Dealer

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09-Aug-19

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Looks right at home in the driveway here @ the house.
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Looks right at home in the driveway here @ the house.

From: BULELK1
09-Aug-19

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Now to slowly start adding some OEM items...…..and Building a New truck for many adventures/hunts!

Thanks for taking the time to view fella's!!

#LovinLife

Robb

From: BULELK1
09-Aug-19

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More to follow-------->

Good luck, Robb

From: pointingdogs
09-Aug-19
No bed there. Is that even 4 feet?

09-Aug-19
I’m happy if you are bro. Good luck and God Bless

09-Aug-19
Nice looking Gladiator, Robb! I definitely think those things look tough. The killer for me was bed length. I stopped by a local dealer and looked at one, but took too long contemplating how I would be able to fit two bow cases, totes, and a deer in that thing. I'm sure you'll figure it out! Congrats on the new addition to the family!

From: Joey Ward
09-Aug-19
Congrats to whomever picked up the 350. THAT is a sweet deal. :-)

Good luck with your new “truck”. ;-)

Keep us updated with the add on progress. And your thoughts on it as we move into season.

From: Scar Finga
09-Aug-19
Nice looking rig! I really like the body on it, but I wish they would make a full size with a long bed and put a diesel in it!

From: Bowboy
09-Aug-19
Congrats on the new vehicle Robb!

From: JL
09-Aug-19
Congrats! Interesting looking rig. Hope it works well for you. That does sound like a decent deal on your F350 for whoever got it. I just got a new 2019 F150 FX-4 in ruby red. Waiting on the new cap to come in.

BTW.....a humble observation. Taking off my camo hunting hat and putting on my military protocol hat, if all of those flags are on the same staff, the two small ones should be below the national ensign. The only flag that is allowed to fly above the national ensign is the church pennant during divine services. Figured I'd humbly mention that......

From: ElkNut1
09-Aug-19
Looking snazzy (grin) Don't get any scratches on it in the Elkwoods! (grin)

ElkNut/Paul

From: mulecreek
09-Aug-19
Nice looking ride!

To piggy back on what JL said, that BYU flag next to the UW flag aint going to cut it either. Burn the blue one, or use as TP, either way. Get a UW flag slightly smaller than the Stars and Stripes and just below it and you are good to go.

From: Pop-r
09-Aug-19
Man that was an ugly Ford truck!

From: coelker
09-Aug-19
Man you should have got the Rubicon edition. Better gearing, tires, lockers, etc. Not to mention the resale is a lot better with the Rubicon package...

However congrats on the new vehicle they are a lot of fun.

See you in Moab soon?

From: smarba
09-Aug-19
You complain about a short bed, then buy the Jeep with a tiny bed?! Have fun with your new rig, it looks pretty cool!

09-Aug-19
Congrats on your new rig !

From: RogBow
09-Aug-19
A little 5x8 utility trailer would be good.

From: Grey Ghost
09-Aug-19
Nice ride, but how is Chrysler/Fiat calling that a 1/2 ton truck? Its towing capacity and payload is more comparable to the Taco and Ranger than it is to the F150 and Tundra.

Matt

From: jordanathome
09-Aug-19
I have had 2 wrangler unlimiteds, a Sahara and now a Rubi, loved 'em both. Enjoy the Gladiator! Yer so trendy...........

From: JL
09-Aug-19
I pulled up next to a Gladiator at a stop light a little bit ago. That back door is a little too small for a tall chunk like me.

From: Pig Doc
09-Aug-19
I like! Tell us in a year what you think of it.

From: JTV
09-Aug-19
There isnt a bed on that thing ... you could have got an extended cab Tacoma with a longer bed ... ill gladly give up a 4 door for the bed length and go to an ext. Cab

From: dafish
09-Aug-19
Enjoy your Jeep, looks good. You will be amazed on how much you can get in the bed. Or at lest how much "junk" you will not be taking with you.

As to resale, yea you could resale the Rubicon for more, but at a out the door price north of $60K, not sure you would re-the extra cost. I have a ZR2, 5 foot bed, it hauls 3 M150's, game cart, 2-sets of climbing sticks back packs, coolers and other stuff under a tonneau cover with no problem.

From: carcus
09-Aug-19
Nice jeep, you mentioned being spoiled with the v10 in the superduty, a new 7.3L gas is available in the 2020 superduty, probably my next truck, don't need 1000 foot pounds of torque the diesel puts out and all the expenses, but want more than the 6.2 gas

From: RK
09-Aug-19
A little confused by your choice based on your earlier comments But cool machine

I just bought one for the beach here. Rubicon. I love that style of jeep and glad they brought it back in a four door

Enjoy!!!

From: Buffalo1
09-Aug-19
They are cool looking trucks- saw one the other day. Body resembles the old WWII style Willys p/u truck.

From: Shawn
09-Aug-19
Not a truck really but whatever blows your hair back! No clue how you go from what you were driving to calling that a truck. That said if your happy, Congrats! Shawn

09-Aug-19
I bet you’re gonna miss that old 350 within a year!

From: Glunt@work
10-Aug-19
Are they marketing them as a 1/2 ton? I figured they were in the same class as Colorados and the new Rangers.

Its unique and they will sell a boatload.

From: priley
10-Aug-19
You went to sleep on the tacoma and woke up and bought a jeep? Maybe a new mattress..

From: BULELK1
10-Aug-19
Thanks for your input fella's, always enjoyable and worth will to read thru them.

I've always been more of a Need vs Nice, Nice vs Need type guy when I am spending high dollar amount. It does seem to equal out. So no Ford King Ranch or Jeep Rubicon for me.

Keep in mind I am willingly Down sizing I just can't go with a 1/4 ton with a 1/4 size truck bed width and length.

At least I may still only have a 5' 3 " long bed But I have the extra Width of a 1/2 ton.... I 'm feeling more comfortable with it each day.

Yes, being ex Navy I was/am aware of the Protocol on a raised Flag......I'll modify it this week.

Now Back to the Build-------->

From: BULELK1
10-Aug-19
Some of my buds here in the area are bigtime Upland Bird Hunters and have always had some type of built in storage drawer system in the bed of the truck.

They had those High End bird dogs riding on top of it in those travel kennels and all of this under a truck shell like LEER or ARE ect…..

1 major point they made with this type system was that they never really had to M T out the truck bed after each trip and then reload it before the next trip as most everything stayed in the secure storage draw area.

I liked that idea a lot

With a 25% off voucher from my Jeep Gladiator purchase in the Mopar/Jeep store, I went with this Decked System.

A dang good challenge for 1 man as it weights like 218 assembled.....

From: BULELK1
10-Aug-19

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10-Aug-19

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I got it all out of the box and spread out for assymbly
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From: BULELK1
10-Aug-19

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Using my longer portable work bench and the bed of the truck as 'Helpers'
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Using my longer portable work bench and the bed of the truck as 'Helpers'

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10-Aug-19

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10-Aug-19

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From: BULELK1
10-Aug-19
I had already assembled the Rock Tamers so I inserted them as well.

Rock Tamers look great to any truck but I mainly use them for protection to the driver behind me because when you are Rolling Big Rubber they do throw rocks/pebels ect into windshields.

From: BULELK1
10-Aug-19

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From: BULELK1
10-Aug-19
That wraps up Day 1 of the OEM build of add on's.

Next will be the Yakima Roof Rack and bed cover...……..

New Summer Rims are ordered so maybe in a day or 2 they will arrive for mounting too.

Thanks for taking the time to view!!

Good luck, Robb

From: jordanathome
10-Aug-19
Love it Robb!!!

From: BULELK1
11-Aug-19

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Thanks

I've answered all the private contact questions and Yes it is bigger in person than in pix, getting right @ 16.8 mpg almost all city driving and I've only got like 550 miles on it (22 miles on it when I took delivery)

Some good luck yesterday as I got a text and sold the rims off the F350 for my asking price of $500. That's always nice to have another item sold that I can't use anymore.

From: BULELK1
11-Aug-19

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These are so New that they don't have any type of shell/topper for them yet. I really like a good solid hard top shell/topper so I will make due for now with this low profile style.

So I went with a tri top cover for the time being (Leer say's late October for a hard shell/topper)

From: BULELK1
11-Aug-19

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I always take my lil 5 x 8 enclosed trlr anyways, even with the F350 so I will just use it like normal for my early hunts this fall

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11-Aug-19

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Installed and ready to tri fold up!
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Installed and ready to tri fold up!

From: BULELK1
11-Aug-19

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Messing around to see what will fit under the Tri fold and my recurve does and a few other items.....Not set in stone yet though
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Messing around to see what will fit under the Tri fold and my recurve does and a few other items.....Not set in stone yet though

From: BULELK1
11-Aug-19

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Final product/wrap up in the AM as we are heading out for some scouting this Sunday morning.

Thanks for taking the time to view----->

Good luck, Robb

11-Aug-19
Nice looking truck and like the mods.

From: Bou'bound
11-Aug-19
thanks for sharing.

From: ben h
11-Aug-19
Those red wheels are probably illegal....at least they should be. Those are hideous. Jeep looks sweet though. I want to try out the "Decked" system but they don't make an 8' version yet.

From: midwest
11-Aug-19
Those red rims looked badass on that red tonner.

From: bighorn
11-Aug-19
Good Choice Robb! Much more truck than the Toyota.

From: BULELK1
12-Aug-19
Thanks!

For sure they do Ben for all makes double check my link and go to Home and from there. Plus I'll be staying @ FGL the week of 09/16 jumping the border into Wyo to help out on a 31 bow bull and another fellow with a 102 deer tag. Stop by if you are up at your cabin.

From: BULELK1
12-Aug-19

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12-Aug-19

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12-Aug-19

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I'm liking the new Summer Rims/Tires look......
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I'm liking the new Summer Rims/Tires look......

From: BULELK1
12-Aug-19

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Ya Gotta Promote your RMEF, Wild Sheep and Bowhunters of Wyoming!
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Ya Gotta Promote your RMEF, Wild Sheep and Bowhunters of Wyoming!

From: BULELK1
12-Aug-19

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I'm content with the New Truck and I am having a ball with the challenge of Downsizing.
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I'm content with the New Truck and I am having a ball with the challenge of Downsizing.

From: BULELK1
12-Aug-19
I was hoping/thinking the Title would have came with the Transfer of Plates registration but it didn't, maybe this week?

Thanks for taking the time to view and for your comments, privately or on here, I am humbled.

Thanks again

#LovinLife

Robb

From: mattandersen
12-Aug-19
Big change in trucks but I won't say downgrading...that is a very capable and awesome rig you've got! I love building something up from stock. I love Jeeps too! Keep posting the upgrades and performance reviews!

From: jordanathome
12-Aug-19
What size rubber are you rolling there?

From: BULELK1
13-Aug-19

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35's jah

I've got this kinda rule that if I get 2 or more of the same questions privately or on a thread I just answer it on the thread.

So Yes, I am a 2 Jeep Man, the 2017 and this 2020-------->

Good luck, Robb

From: BULELK1
13-Aug-19

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13-Aug-19
I will admit I am far from the sharpest crayon in the box, so please elaborate on a few points if you will. Please don't take these comments as me being a wise guy, because I have been thinking down sizing as well. I currently drive a Ram 1500, but the better gas mileage options of Tacomas & Rangers are definitely appealing. Downsizing is one thing, but I can't wrap my head around installing a 2 drawer system in an already small truck bed. Just based on pictures alone, it appears that you have effectively cut your useable bed space in half. Then with the solid folding bed top, it looks as though you have 3" of space to stack stuff on top of the drawers. Perhaps I missed it, but are you planning on installing some type of rack system over top of the bed, to accommodate more loading area? The roof top rack is a nice touch, but how much of a pain in the rear is heaving heavy coolers and stuff on top of that? My biggest quandry looking at your new rig, is when you put a nice bull elk on the ground, how are you getting all the meat & antlers home? I'm following this one closely, because you definitely have my attention! That Jeep looks even sweeter with the new tires & wheels!

From: woodguy65
13-Aug-19
I keep pulling up this thread to look at the jeep but I can't get past the semi-truck mud flaps.

From: marktm250
13-Aug-19
Nice rig. They are supposed to come out with a diesel next year?

Done any towing yet? I have a larger 7x14 tandem axle trailer and wonder how they will do.

In the past, for the $$$ they ask, I was never impressed with smaller details like fit/finish and comfy seats ... have they addressed that these days?

I still am not too eager to pull the trigger on $50k+ trucks (70k for diesels), so will likely stick with my used 2012 F350 diesel with 190k on it.

From: BULELK1
16-Aug-19
Thanks fella's,

I just got home from another one of my scouting trips for fellow bowsiters up in the Dubois Wyoming area.

I don't get on the internet while off on my trips as it gives me a break from the normal life at home--sorry.

Let me get unloaded/organized here at home and I'll get back to this thread over the wknd.

Thank you,

Robb

From: BULELK1
17-Aug-19
Okay, morning----->

I averaged 18.79 mpg on my trip and I did do some 4 x 4 driving up into Sheep county on some knarly rough rocky FS dirt roads.

I am putting a shell on when they/Leer start manufacturing them in mid-October, like I stated earlier; the Tri-Fold is just temporary.

I am really liking that drawer system already. I put all my luggage on my trip to Dubois in the 1 drawer and it was sweet to have it weather free and very secure out of sight. See my Decked link above for all kinds of storage/storing options.

I did have to put my cooler on the back seat but it is one of those drain plug Less coolers like early Yeti......

On my hunts, like stated earlier, I tow my lil 5 x 8 enclosed trlr even behind the 2010 F350...….'llI put a harvested Rack in the top Yakima rack, it has to be brainless to cross state lines so the Rack will be caped and basically just a skull plate and Antlers.....no biggy.

I would never over load a Roof rack with a bunch of stuff...….Nor do I want that 'look' on any of my rigs......To each his own for sure though.

I'm old school and won't tow until I have over 1000 miles on the New Truck so I am over 1200 now and am doing my first tow job this coming week with my 8 x 12 enclosed RZR2 trlr with the RZR2 loaded in side. I'll let ya know how it handles in those big strong Canyon high winds we have out here in the Rockie mnt states and I will let ya know how it tows up and over Trappers Loop road going by Snowbasin Ski Resort.

Rock Tamers doesn't show any type of Semi Truck option just Pick up trucks and SUV on the website (see link above)

I personally wish they had about 2 more inches of width as like I stated earlier, when your Rolling Big Rubber they throw a lot of rocks and pebbles, not just from the outside but also from the inside of the tire ~~~ back at the vehicle behind you and I don't want to chip some ones windshield so I totally enjoy the Rock Tamers.

I don't know if they are going to do a Diesel engine, I have no interest in a diesel engine, sorry I haven't even looked into it.

Whew...….!! I think I have touch base on ya'lls questions? And answered the Private questions.

I'll have more follow-up mid week after my first Tow Job Robb trip! haha

Thanks again,

Robb

From: BULELK1
17-Aug-19

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It was nice to get home from my trip and have my Title finally arrive in the mail.
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From: JCarrowthem
17-Aug-19
Great looking jeep Rob and good luck this season. I'll be heading down in 7 days to San Juan for mule deer. let you know how it go's. J. C.

From: BOHUNTER09
17-Aug-19
Saw one of the new Jeep trucks parked along the street as I walked by. It’s a lot bigger when you get closer to it. Nice looking rig.

From: JL
17-Aug-19
Bull, if you have to drive offroad in the snow or rutted two-track road.....what does the ground clearance look like?

From: map1
17-Aug-19
I like the jeep but how's the power it's only a few hundred pounds lighter than a crew cab chevy v8? I have the v6 in an AWD charger and it's a rocket but the chargers 500 lighter than the jeep. That v6 is a great engine.

From: jordanathome
17-Aug-19
Needs some flat fenders and a winch bumper...but damn that is nice!

From: BULELK1
18-Aug-19
I'll get under and do a new clearance measurement since the bigger rims and tires went on, maybe today if I get a chance good idea to get that new clearance measurement.

I've searched for a new front winch bumper/lights combo but I'm having a hell of a time finding one for a 2020...…………

I'll post some pix of yesterdays add on project.

Travel safe JC, ya have my number if ya need any thing along the way.

Thanks all,

Robb

From: BULELK1
18-Aug-19

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I put Air Bags on all my F350's over the years, I just like the stability they add while towing or with the occasion camper I've had in the bed of a truck.

We even put them on my ex's 2011 long bed Tacoma and it was nice for when she towed something.

I got educated using this style on my 2017 Jeep Wrangler. I'm a wiz now at installing them! haha

From: BULELK1
18-Aug-19

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I found it is way easier to just take the springs off, insert the airbag and then reinstall the spring......
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I found it is way easier to just take the springs off, insert the airbag and then reinstall the spring......

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18-Aug-19

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Under $100 via my Amazon Prime acct...….
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Under $100 via my Amazon Prime acct...….

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18-Aug-19

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I've put the Air Lift 5000's on my last 2 trucks. Only way to tow or even when you just have a big load in the bed. Super easy to install, too.

From: JL
18-Aug-19
The airbag thing has me curious. I just got a brand new 2019 F150 FX4 with the max tow package.....11.9 or 13K lbs I think it was. Do airbags affect the warranty? The suspension on this truck is already beefed up so I'm not sure airbags would do for the truck?? There aren't any coil springs on the back.

From: map1
18-Aug-19
Anytime you add after market items the warranty is affected.

From: Ambush
18-Aug-19
If you carry anything more than about four hundred pounds in modern half or heavy half pickups, you will be happy to have good airbags. And spring for the onboard compressor option. More money and work initially, but the going forward convenience is the payback. Just measure from fender to tire before putting the load in, then adjust airbags after loading to return to that spec.

From: JL
18-Aug-19
"Anytime you add after market items the warranty is affected."

That depends on what the aftermarket install was.

From: midwest
18-Aug-19
Agree with Ambush. I didn't spring for the onboard compressor but will probably add it later. After you unhook and unload at elk camp, you'll want to drop the air. When you load back up to move camp or head home, you'll need to use a portable compressor to air back up or stop at the nearest gas station.

From: BULELK1
19-Aug-19
That is the style I have had on all my F350's 'midwest' a bit more beefy for a bigger payload truck size.

True that, it depends on what you do to the truck OEM that affects the warranty adding a leaf or an Airbag set-up doesn't but going Over the warranty max tow amount would.

Okay, to answer some of the questions early about clearance and storage options....

From: BULELK1
19-Aug-19

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I use 1 drawer for my soft sided RMEF luggage as it stay out of sight and the weather.
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I use 1 drawer for my soft sided RMEF luggage as it stay out of sight and the weather.

From: BULELK1
19-Aug-19
Front end clearance right at 11 inches......

From: BULELK1
19-Aug-19

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From: BULELK1
19-Aug-19

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On the ass end right at 10 1/2 inches as via text pix I was told my tape isn't touching my garage floor by about 1/2.....although it is on the towing sway bar!

From: BULELK1
19-Aug-19

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This is what I use to add air after I have unhooked and released air but am fixin' to tow/travel.

It also works great on 15 or 16 inch tires to top off PSI if they get a lil low during a trip, Not so much for 18--20 inch tires though.

From: BULELK1
19-Aug-19

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I had to do a Test Hook-Up and pre tow inspection before I go for a RZR2 ride this week.

I'm set right at 15lbs of Airbag/Air Pressure, 1,800 lbs Dry Weight 8 x 12, single axle trlr.

The RZR2 with a full tank of gas and some misc crap in the rear box is right at 879lbs, round up to 900lbs

For a total tow of 2,700 lbs.

I did like 5 miles just around here in town, a few small hill climbs and coming down checking the brakes with this load on and I am pretty damn happy.

Good luck, Robb

From: BULELK1
21-Aug-19
I'm out of here first thing in the morning for my first real towing test fully loaded with the RZR2 for a lil ride to deliver some firewood to a remote property camp from a tree that I have cut up since it blew down after our last round of brutal thunderstorms.

Should be a good test first tow as I will be going up Weber Canyon with those damn morning canyon winds of 35--50 mph and then a dang good climb up and over, I'm just as interested in how the new truck handles towing down steep winding road as I am towing up it!

Report to follow

Good luck, Robb

From: jordanathome
21-Aug-19
Good Luck Robb!!!

21-Aug-19
Congratulations. Sweet looking ride. What's towing capacity on these rigs what motor they running! I owned a Rubicon it was great for off road but lacked towing! Big Dan turned me on to my current truck 06 Cummins mega cab! I will keep this truck until I can't. It sucks off road but I can tow all the toys one can imagine.

From: BULELK1
23-Aug-19

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I'm happy with the new addition of lights inside the trlr for these type dark unloads
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I'm happy with the new addition of lights inside the trlr for these type dark unloads
I left early from the house here @ 0430 to try and beat the worst of the morning Canyon wind so I only had 29.39 wind to fight! (accuweather app)

Towing went just fine, no overheating of the brakes on the steep winding down part of the tow and I stayed between 3,500--4,500 RPM's/ 45-50 mph speed, on the long steep tow Up and over.

After filling up before I left, putting 108 miles round trip, filling up after I got back, I had an average mile per gallon of 14.41.

I'm pretty dang happy with the performance of the 3.6 engine and the tow ass end differential gear ratio.

From: BULELK1
23-Aug-19

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Plenty of Light on the RZR2
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Plenty of Light on the RZR2

From: BULELK1
23-Aug-19

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Got my wood delivered to the remote campsite for my friend and her wife, feel good outing for me.
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Got my wood delivered to the remote campsite for my friend and her wife, feel good outing for me.

From: BULELK1
23-Aug-19

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I could have went with an 7 x 10 trlr but as you can see it is nice to have some room in front and some room in back after the RZR2 is loaded and I can stand up (6'1) inside by going to this 8 x 12.
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I could have went with an 7 x 10 trlr but as you can see it is nice to have some room in front and some room in back after the RZR2 is loaded and I can stand up (6'1) inside by going to this 8 x 12.

From: BULELK1
23-Aug-19

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The only MIstake I made on this trip was stopping on the way home and getting a Gas Station Burrito.....Free 24 hour Cleanse!!
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The only MIstake I made on this trip was stopping on the way home and getting a Gas Station Burrito.....Free 24 hour Cleanse!!
All and All-------->

I feel just fine with my Down Sizing from my 2010 F350 long bed V10 to this 2020 Jeep Gladiator 1/2 ton 5'3 long bed.

I was really looking forward to bigdan's critique of his new A-Frame Fold Up/Down hard sided front deck Toyhauler but sadly we won't hear about it, Godsend bigdan.

As it would have been perfect for me and my 1/2 ton.

It's been fun with you guys--------> thanks.

#LovinLife

Robb

From: Scar Finga
23-Aug-19
Great looking setup Robb!!

Happy you like it!!

From: JTV
12-Sep-19

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Ummm, is this YOUR Jeep Truck ??

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/jeep-gladiator-recalled-driveshaft-failure

From: JTV
13-Sep-19

From: BULELK1
13-Sep-19
Thanks for thinking of me???

Mine is a 2020 build date though.

Sure seems like most all brands have these dang recalls, at least they are on top of it and if it affects a guy it's free.

Good luck, Robb

From: jordanathome
13-Sep-19
Robb, how does that thing do in the steep hills? I have a 2014 unlimited rubi stick and it has no ass whatsoever in the mountains on steep inclines. I am in firewalled in fourth gear and can't stay near 60 mph to save my life. I can't imagine towing a trailer load on top of that.....I think i'd be in 2nd going 20 mph at best.

From: JL
13-Sep-19
My spiffy new 2019 F150 already has a recall for the seats. It goes back to some of the 2018 F-150's too....so if ya have one, heads up.

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