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Contributors to this thread:
Lost Arra 11-Aug-19
PoudreCanyon 11-Aug-19
WapitiBob 11-Aug-19
casekiska 11-Aug-19
Lost Arra 11-Aug-19
Franklin 11-Aug-19
Ucsdryder 11-Aug-19
Jaquomo 11-Aug-19
cmbbulldog 11-Aug-19
Franklin 12-Aug-19
Pyrannah 12-Aug-19
Grey Ghost 12-Aug-19
Jaquomo 12-Aug-19
Grey Ghost 12-Aug-19
Franklin 12-Aug-19
Jaquomo 12-Aug-19
Lost Arra 12-Aug-19
KsRancher 15-Aug-19
KsRancher 15-Aug-19
'Ike' (Phone) 15-Aug-19
Franklin 15-Aug-19
KsRancher 15-Aug-19
'Ike' (Phone) 17-Aug-19
txhunter58 17-Aug-19
Glunt@work 17-Aug-19
Franklin 17-Aug-19
Lost Arra 18-Aug-19
From: Lost Arra
11-Aug-19
Anyone planning to have their elk tested for cwd this season? I never have submitted one and I've killed and eaten some from a hot zone area. I am considering it this year if I'm fortunate enough to tag one.

From: PoudreCanyon
11-Aug-19
Prolly won’t, although I know it’s around here. We always had deer tested back in Wisconsin when I hunted in a hot zone, but it was also free there... never had one come back hot...

From: WapitiBob
11-Aug-19
Nope

From: casekiska
11-Aug-19
In some parts of Wisconsin over 50% of two and a half year old (and older) whitetail bucks test positive for CWD. Over the years, out west 'n out east 'n here in the midwest, thousands of CWD positive cervids have been consumed by humans and to date there has never been a proven case of CWD transfer to humans. Not yet, but.....

From: Lost Arra
11-Aug-19
Reading the new regs I just received from Wyoming I think mandatory testing is coming in the near future at least in the areas I hunt. As I said, I've eaten every elk I've killed and I've seen some sick ones in the wild but if the G&F is going to study this disease then the hunters are the best source for their data.

From: Franklin
11-Aug-19
Depends if you want your hunting destroyed....if so submit....if not don`t. Your animal can have CWD and test negative....so you could be eating a CWD positive animal thinking it`s negative. So really what is the sense.

But positive animals could adversely effect your hunting in the future.

From: Ucsdryder
11-Aug-19
Nope. Could you imagine killing a great bull 2-5 miles from the trailhead. Then having it test positive and tossing the whole thing in the garbage?! I’d rather be oblivious.

From: Jaquomo
11-Aug-19
Nope. Only did when it was mandatory in my unit back when the scare started.

From: cmbbulldog
11-Aug-19
Nope

From: Franklin
12-Aug-19
Remember the post of that poor guy that shot that huge muley and decided to stop and have it tested. They destroyed his cape and split the skull....he left with pieces....funny but sad. They obviously didn`t know what they were doing

From: Pyrannah
12-Aug-19
some of these comments seem ridiculous..

if i could ever kill one, i would get it tested..

From: Grey Ghost
12-Aug-19
I don't eat the brain, spinal cord, eyes, spleen, or tonsils of my elk, so I don't see any point in having it tested.

Matt

From: Jaquomo
12-Aug-19
Pyrannah, it was discovered in my county. Assuming it just spontaneously erupted at the end of Laporte Avenue one night back in the early 60s (it didn't...) thousands of people here have been eating infected meat for at least 60 years, and the incidence rate of CJDv in humans in our county is lower than the national average. So maybe eating infected meat actually helps prevent CJDv?

I don't know anybody here who gets it tested anymore unless it's required (moose).

From: Grey Ghost
12-Aug-19
As Lou stated, there is no definitive scientific evidence that eating CWD infected meat increases the chances of humans getting CJD.

Matt

From: Franklin
12-Aug-19
Pyrannah….Until you live through "herd eradication" because of CWD hysterics...like I have in 2 states...you might be thinking differently. It absolutely destroyed our hunting for over a decade.

From: Jaquomo
12-Aug-19
^^^ Ditto here in northern CO. It has taken a couple decades for the mule deer to start to bounce back after the slaughter (we are saturated with cougars, bears, and coyotes). Now the CPW is trying a different tactic - dramatically reducing the number of mature bucks, which presumably spread the disease to different doe groups during the rut. We'll see if this works, but in any case Colorado's days as a great place to kill a mature muley will rapidly come to a halt. All because of hysteria over something that may have been naturally occurring in the ecosystem forever.

From: Lost Arra
12-Aug-19
My question was not related to eating CWD positive meat but should hunters provide data for scientists to study the disease? Franklin gave a reasonable answer: "no" because in his experience, hysteria resulted and the solution was herd eradication.

From: KsRancher
15-Aug-19

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From: KsRancher
15-Aug-19
Not sure, but I think Franklin it talking about this one. It was my dads. It came back negative, but both my brother and I deer this year came back positive. Probably not going to get to go elk hunting this year. Will check any deer or elk we shoot though. We learned how to remove brainstem and lymph nodes and send off ourselves. FYI, it wasn't funny

15-Aug-19
No...

From: Franklin
15-Aug-19
KsRancher…..that was the one. I only thought it was funny because I didn`t think people could be so incompetent to make such a mistake like that. Those people had no business being involved in the testing. It was just shocking to think someone would do that to someone's trophy.

My apologies to you and your father.

From: KsRancher
15-Aug-19

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17-Aug-19
Just received this from AZ....

Hunters from out of state may only bring the following animal parts into Arizona according to the following requirements of Arizona Game and Commission Rule R12-4-305:

Meat that is boneless or has been commercially butchered and packaged Finished taxidermy mounts Skulls that are mounted or clean skulls/skull plates without any meat or soft tissue Antlers that are hard-horned or velvet antlers that have been taxidermied Hides without any meat or soft tissue Teeth without any tissue attached

Out-of-state hunters coming to hunt in Arizona should check with their state about importation rules. They can also check the CWD alliance website: http://cwd-info.org/ and select the state from the map.

From: txhunter58
17-Aug-19
Texas is not quite that strict, but you can’t bring the head or spine back into Texas. And I have a deer tag this year in southeast Colorado in an area of mandatory CWD testing. Due to the remoteness of the hunting area that may prove problematic for me to 1) get it to someone that can take samples to test it and 2) get it caped for transport as I have taken the time/never learned to cape. May need to this year.

From: Glunt@work
17-Aug-19
Sometimes I'll slice off a little piece and test it before I pull it off the grill. Hard to resist :^)

As for CWD, nope.

From: Franklin
17-Aug-19
I don`t think the game departments understand how these over the top restrictions are going to hurt their own citizens and businesses. If you are a Arizona taxidermist you are basically only doing Arizona mounts.

From: Lost Arra
18-Aug-19
Follow up questions:

1. Since the majority here are not testing, do you feel it's a waste of time and money by the state and they should stop providing testing?

2. Do your grandkids eat untested meat?

I'm not looking for an argument. I've killed and eaten elk from a well known hot zone (not my home state). I just live in a state that has long denied the existence of CWD in our deer and so has provided no testing. A captive deer has recently tested positive and it's unclear what will be the reaction by our wildlife department.

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