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76 Planning For Darrell
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Contributors to this thread:
Darrell 24-Sep-19
Scoot 24-Sep-19
ki-ke 24-Sep-19
Surfbow 25-Sep-19
sticksender 25-Sep-19
wildwilderness 25-Sep-19
Darrell 25-Sep-19
Jeff1987 28-Sep-19
Darrell 30-Sep-19
Buglmin 30-Sep-19
Darrell 08-Oct-19
Donnybowhunter 20-Oct-19
Darrell 21-Oct-19
From: Darrell
24-Sep-19
OK guys, in 2 or maybe 3 years I am planning on a CO 76 hunt. I currently have 14 points and next year have definitive other plans and likely plans for 2021 as well though that could change. So by 2022, I think I should be able to draw 76.

I have been on the Bowsite since its inception so many of you know me but I don't post near as much as I used to so I'm sure many of you do not. (I may be best known on this site for a response letter I wrote to an anti hunter many years ago.)

What I am looking for right now is to start narrowing down what part of the unit I want to focus on. The way I would like to hunt the unit is by having a nice camp next to a decent road but then have the ability to spike camp part of the time. I would like to be able to get into bulls around my main camp but am also willing to spike in for a night or two at a time.

I'm 53 now with some feet issues so while I am not opposed to a good hike or even a pack out, I certainly would welcome spots closer to the road. I've killed two P & Y bulls and while I certainly love seeing and chasing the big boys, I'm at a stage of my life where being around screaming bulls is much more important than final score.

So, if you are willing to help me out, please send me a PM and I will send you my email.

Thanks!

So, what I'm looking for is individuals who know 76 who would be willing to visit with me via PM and then email about specific areas. I have plenty of time, but need to start focusing on a smaller area.

One more thing, I do have access to an ATV so I could also set up my main camp on an ATV road if that helped.

From: Scoot
24-Sep-19
I'm no help on this Darrell, but I wish you luck and hope you have a great time planning and doing the hunt.

From: ki-ke
24-Sep-19
Regardless of whether or not you would use an outfitter, Justin Adkisson of San Juan Outfitters would be a great guy to talk to. He knows that country very well. He had a 76 tag himself 2 years ago and killed a great bull. Might be a good resource should you need help packing one out. Gem of a guy and easy to talk to. Just dont try him until December or so....

From: Surfbow
25-Sep-19
I don't know Darrell, I hear 76 is overrated anymore, lots of small bulls and no big ones, but that's just what some guys say on the internet :)

From: sticksender
25-Sep-19
FWIW, I have the same points as you and am thinking we'll be close to guaranteed draw by around 2024 or 2025. A whole bunch of guys are ahead of us still. The guys a year ahead of us in points went 15 for 41 in the draw this year. That pool went 6 for 36 last year, and 0 for 34 the year before that. So I think in 2022 we'll be looking at 20-30% odds if we're lucky. Let's hope this unit doesn't get changed to 20% NR allocation. In that case the wait will be longer. Best of luck in your research.

25-Sep-19
They haven't changed NR allocations in over 10 years! (despite what the rules say) don't think it will happen any time soon. Too much outcry from outfitters to loose NR Clients.

From: Darrell
25-Sep-19
Yeah I know that 2021 might be optimistic but as I said, I may not be able to do it until 2022 or later. Maybe the purchase by the state of Colorado of the French something ranch by Trinidad will open up a new draw unit that will be worth trying or at least that will pull others into.

BTW, I would be open to sharing a camp with someone also.

From: Jeff1987
28-Sep-19
Was your "letter" the one about teaching an anti hunter's nephew how to track elk that ended with something to the effect of "sorry to tell you that we all kills animals, the difference is I do it myself and you hire others to do it for you?"

From: Darrell
30-Sep-19
Jeff,

Yes, here is the original dialogue. I received the email because I was helping a very web illiterate outfitter friend with a website and email. It was way back in the late 90s.

The E-mail: Hello,

I just wanted to ask how I can get started in the animal killing business. I saw the pictures of you and your friends sitting with your victims and thought that you must be such talented and manly men to be able to kill these unarmed, defenseless creatures with only a shotgun? I was just thinking that something like that would probably take my 4 year old nephew about a week to learn so you must have learned in about 8 days or so. Wow! Anyway, I hope that your power-hungry egos are satisfied and fulfilled with these acts of murder, and that you've found some cheap excuse to justify yourself. I guess you're conscience was just as easy to kill as they were. Bye.

Sonia Bermudez The Response: Sonia,

For your information, we are all "animal killers." This may be difficult for you to accept, but you also are the reason that animals die. Please let me explain: Do you eat any meat? Do you go to McDonalds or have a little pepperoni on your pizza. Sorry to disappoint you, but that meat came from a dead animal. Yes, I kill deer and elk and other game animals, but at least my animals are treated with respect and allowed to live a free and wild life. Your meat is killed in "slaughter houses" after being penned and trapped for months being forced to eat what will make them tender rather than what they choose.

Oh, are you a vegetarian? Guess what, you still are responsible for the deaths of countless animals. Do you realize that the farmers that grow your veggies regularly kill jack rabbits and other "pests" who interfere with the growing process of your veggies. Do you realize that they eliminated animals that once grazed on the land they now farm so that you can eat tofu?

Do you own anything leather? A purse, a belt, a pair of shoes? What about your automobile? Does it have a leather steering wheel or leather seats? Do you think that the animals that provided that leather did so and lived to tell about it? No, they died so that you could have what you want.

Do you live on land that used to be habitat for some wild animal? Do you drive on roads that were paved over the top of rodents and that displaced the animals that once migrated across them? Since you are writing me from an "edu" address, do you live in a dorm or an apartment? If you do, they must certainly spray to kill roaches and other pests as well as poison any mice and rats that find their way into your dwelling area.

As far as where I get my justification, I get it from the ultimate authority, God himself. Genesis 9:2-3 After the flood, God told Noah: "The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything."

In Acts 10, he tells Peter "Rise kill and eat."

As far as skill goes, hunting is a skill that requires much work, experience and insight. Also, for your information, I hunt with a bow and not a shotgun, though I have no problems with my hunting brothers who use a shotgun.

If, in a few years, your 4 year old nephew is interested in learning how to hunt, I will be more than happy to take him with me and show him some of the ways of the wild. I will show him how to read tracks in the sand and in the snow. I will show him the incredible power of the majestic elk. I will teach him how to try and outsmart a bull elk by imitating the calls of the elk. I will show him how to make a clean, humane kill. One that causes the least amount of suffering possible. Then, I will show him how to take care of the meat so that it can be enjoyed by himself and others. It will do him well to learn that he was created at the top of the food chain and doesn't have to live a life destined to tofu and veggie burgers. I will show him how to hunt with honor and how to appreciate the incredible creation that God has for us. I will show him why we need to protect our National Forests and other places where wild animals are allowed to roam free. I will teach him many things, but most important, I will teach him about his creator who loved him so much that he came and died for him.

I apologize if my hunting offends you. I ask, however, that you give some real consideration to the big picture. Yes, I kill animals, but so do you. The difference is only that I do for myself AND YOU HIRE SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT FOR YOU!

Have a great day,

Darrell Brazell

From: Buglmin
30-Sep-19
A lot can happen in 76 in 2 or 3 years. Early bad snows push the Bulls out early and they get slaughtered the second or third gun season. ( happened last year in two areas where the snow looked like a battle field) Deep snows catch the bulls and they can't get out. Lots can happen in 76. Beetle kill is making some places almost impossible to reach now. Outfitters are avoiding areas and getting new camping sites. If you want to use your atv, look into the area above Silverton. Lots of guys drive deep into 76 on atv's. Other then that, there is no atv trails in 76. Lots of trail heads in 76 from the south fork side. Some steep walking, but if you can get in there, worth it.

From: Darrell
08-Oct-19
Wondering if the ATV trails actually provide any advantage or if enough people do it that its not any different than other road access points. I can certainly bring one but if I don't then I can make the trip without a trailer. Would love to visit with anyone who has actually done it. We packed a camp in on ATVs in a different unit a number of years ago. Called in a nice 6 X 6 first rattle out of the box and thought we had found a great place. Buddy rushed trying to get a shot and blew him out of there. Just knew we were in for a great hunt and then didn't see or hear another elk the rest of the hunt.

20-Oct-19
Get a map and throw a dart...the unit has 300 + bulls behind every tree...most bulls are really uneducated and stupid...will run into all and any calls hunters put out there.

From: Darrell
21-Oct-19
Donny, something tells me if that were really true it would take more points than I'll ever accumulate to draw. :) However, I'm guessing most of the unit is pretty good. I'm just looking for some direction for an area to start focusing on that matches the way I would like to camp & hunt.

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