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Same buck?
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Contributors to this thread:
Pat Lefemine 30-Sep-19
Pat Lefemine 30-Sep-19
KsRancher 30-Sep-19
BIG BEAR 30-Sep-19
lv2bohunt 30-Sep-19
SaltyB 30-Sep-19
Zbone 30-Sep-19
NEIAbowhunter 30-Sep-19
JohnMC 30-Sep-19
Grunter 30-Sep-19
JSW 30-Sep-19
RK 30-Sep-19
Franklin 01-Oct-19
Buckhunter 01-Oct-19
PoudreCanyon 01-Oct-19
Treefarm 01-Oct-19
Treefarm 01-Oct-19
relliK reeD 01-Oct-19
TrapperKayak 01-Oct-19
sticksender 01-Oct-19
GBTG 01-Oct-19
APauls 01-Oct-19
SBH 01-Oct-19
Pat Lefemine 01-Oct-19
Will 01-Oct-19
EmbryOklahoma 01-Oct-19
APauls 01-Oct-19
TrapperKayak 01-Oct-19
Norseman 01-Oct-19
Grey Ghost 01-Oct-19
Grey Ghost 01-Oct-19
Errorhead 01-Oct-19
Zbone 02-Oct-19
From: Pat Lefemine
30-Sep-19

Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
2018
Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
2018
Last year I hunted hard for this buck at the south pasture blind. I had him at 15 but waited for an ethical shot that never materialized.

From: Pat Lefemine
30-Sep-19

Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
2019. Same buck?
Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
2019. Same buck?
Kent just sent me this pic and there’s a debate if it’s the same buck. Same south pasture blind.

What do you think?

From: KsRancher
30-Sep-19
My guess is. No, not the same

From: BIG BEAR
30-Sep-19
I think so..... Going down hill with age.

From: lv2bohunt
30-Sep-19
I’d agree and say it is a different buck. Main beam on the left doesn’t come around as far to me

From: SaltyB
30-Sep-19
I find it hard to believe he'd lose that much even if he was going down hill. I'm sure from the same gene pool, but I'd say different deer.

From: Zbone
30-Sep-19
I guess the same buck, rack looks a little bigger last year though... If not the same buck, I'd bet they are genetically linked...

30-Sep-19
I think it's a different buck too. I say shoot him and see if the other one shows up later! Two nice deer either way.

From: JohnMC
30-Sep-19
No unless you accidentally swapped the pictures above.

From: Grunter
30-Sep-19
No....too many differences. Many things dont line up imo

From: JSW
30-Sep-19
I don't think so either. The first thing I look for is the brow tines. They don't change much year after year. This one is close but I still vote no.

From: RK
30-Sep-19
Brow tines tell it all

Not the same Buck

Great pics on both of them

From: Franklin
01-Oct-19
He has similar traits as the 1st buck but I don`t think it is. I would think buck#1 would grow more stickers on his way "down".

From: Buckhunter
01-Oct-19
Dont think so

From: PoudreCanyon
01-Oct-19
If it’s the same deer, he sure lost a lot in a year. I’ma guess the second deer is a son of the first...

From: Treefarm
01-Oct-19
That’s hunting and you are commentated for waiting for an ethical shot. You will be rewarded this year. Even if a genetically similar deer, it will look great on the wall.

From: Treefarm
01-Oct-19
DP

From: relliK reeD
01-Oct-19
Im with the not the same deer crowd

From: TrapperKayak
01-Oct-19
If it is he's getting old and losing length, but base mass is still high. Same characteristics mostly though. He looks like the same deer. Did you find his sheds last year? If you get him it would be great to compare them, that would tell. Burrs would be the same.

From: sticksender
01-Oct-19
Possible but can't tell from just those 2 pics. To know for sure you really need some clear daytime pics from both years, showing the face and antler features more clearly.

From: GBTG
01-Oct-19
Not the same.

From: APauls
01-Oct-19
So hard to say with the grainy 2018 photo. Assuming the buck is going downhill, which it looks like he could be the only difference is the stickers on his right G2 moving to G3. Other than that he still has a sticker on left G2, still has something coming off base of right brow, still has same curvature to all tines, and is in the same spot. Looks like an old buck in the second pic, has the mass, personally I'd think it's the same buck.

Prob where I'd lean to the guy who knows the deer there. How many "similar" bucks are going to be running around there? The mass and height are those of a mature buck. If it's a different buck, I'm assuming Kent may know of a different younger buck he thinks this one now is?

My guess is Kent sent you the pic because it's the buck you were hunting last year, and he wanted to show it to you because of your interest in the buck, which means Kent thinks it's the same buck. I tend to agree with him and think it's the same buck. Or I could be way off! lol

From: SBH
01-Oct-19
I don't think they are the same. G3 on both sides is what I'm basing it on.

From: Pat Lefemine
01-Oct-19

Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Pretty sure buck on left is the buck in the 2019 pic above
Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Pretty sure buck on left is the buck in the 2019 pic above
I think you guys are right. The buck on the left is the one above, not the bigger buck. He’s not shown up yet.

Kent just sent me this pic from last year and I forgot about that other buck. I passed on him last year.

From: Will
01-Oct-19
My gut was different deer... same mom.

01-Oct-19
Now, where's the BIG guy?

From: APauls
01-Oct-19
Well way to hold out on us. I was half right ;) Figured he might have a pic of the other buck if it was younger. Obviously similar genetics. Boy you can sure see a lot more trash from this angle on that bigger one. What a beaut.

From: TrapperKayak
01-Oct-19
Pretty good bucks for NY deer. Nice!

From: Norseman
01-Oct-19
Brothers

From: Grey Ghost
01-Oct-19
The second buck needs to hit the corn piles more.

:-)

Matt

From: Grey Ghost
01-Oct-19
Yep, if you dump it, they will come. Makes for great video...

Matt

From: Errorhead
01-Oct-19
Shoot one, either one would make a good Bloodtrail Challenge!

From: Zbone
02-Oct-19
They look genetically linked...

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