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Contributors to this thread:
aDrenalinJunkie21 03-Oct-19
JTV 03-Oct-19
JTV 03-Oct-19
BowSniper 03-Oct-19
12yards 03-Oct-19
x-man 03-Oct-19
yooper89 03-Oct-19
35-Acre 03-Oct-19
12yards 03-Oct-19
Slate 03-Oct-19
walks with a gimp 03-Oct-19
35-Acre 04-Oct-19
lewis 04-Oct-19
No Mercy 04-Oct-19
Shawn 04-Oct-19
JTV 05-Oct-19
35-Acre 07-Oct-19
walks with a gimp 08-Oct-19
W8N4RUT 08-Oct-19
Tonybear61 08-Oct-19
Genesis 08-Oct-19
walks with a gimp 09-Oct-19
03-Oct-19
Hi folks,

I just bought a small ozone generator for my clothes before my hunts. I have a few questions that I’ve seen some answers to online but wanted to ask some more nuanced ones

1. Will ozone damage gear like my hunting knife, head light, or range finder that I keep in my Fannie pack? Should I take them out before I run it? 2. Will ozone damage my safety harness? this is pretty important so any insight is appreciated 3. Should I leave the lid to my bin completely closed while it’s running or opened slightly to let some of the gas out?

If you have any other “things you wish you knew” before you started using ozone please feel free to drop it below! Thanks!

From: JTV
03-Oct-19
the ozone, depending on strength can harm rubber, elastic and your health .... I wont use it unless it is that little thing that plugs in your cig lighter to take the smell out of your truck .....

From: JTV
03-Oct-19

JTV's Link
https://www.nachi.org/ozone-generator-hazards.htm

From: BowSniper
03-Oct-19
Hmmmm, should probably not take long drives to hunt running ozone in the enclosed truck cab. Seemed like such a good way to de-scent gear on the journey...

From: 12yards
03-Oct-19
I bought one of those ozone duffel bags and have been using it before every hunt this year. I am still getting busted downwind. I wish I had my $150 back.

From: x-man
03-Oct-19
When [you] stink to a deer's nose, it doesn't matter how scent-free your clothes are.

From: yooper89
03-Oct-19
Stuff is not great for your lungs. I use it on a pretty frequent basis and they are very adamant about letting areas clear out for 12 hours at a time before entering after a treatment. Granted, you're going to be using a much smaller dosage but point stands. I've also heard the same that JTV mentioned about rubbers, elastics, etc. Ryan Callahan mentioned something on a podcast about it destroying some of First Lite's gear and to be cautious when using it.

From: 35-Acre
03-Oct-19
I can add my experience with them (from this year). As background, I bought a Scent Lok 400, so it's mid-range from the power standpoint.

I started by testing this out on my son's hockey gear (he's 15 and stinky). Now, if you're not familiar with the terrible stench that comes from that sport, I have to say, there isn't much worse. His gear was dry on the rack we have, so I stuck it back into his hockey bag and put the OZ inside the bag, zipped it shut and let it run (boost cycle setting, which means 3 cycles at 30 minutes each). I checked on it later and it still stunk, just not as bad. I guess you could say that I was mildly impressed but not convinced. It's at that point that I noticed that parts of his hockey bag were mesh/vented. So, I decided to give it another whirl. I happened to have a big plastic bin with some pool toys in it (haven't gotten that put away for the year yet). I dumped that out, threw all of his hockey gear in the bin, put the lid on it and fired it off again. When I came back later, honest to god the hockey gear didn't smell at all! You could smell the ozone still for a little while. Once the air circulated a bit; the ozone mixed with the air (needs oxygen) the ozone smell went away. This may sound odd, but I was able to put my nose into his skate and breathe in deeply - no smell at all! NOW I WAS IMPRESSED!

While all of this was going on, I did my traditional wash and dry of all of my hunting clothes. Afterwards, I stuck the OZ into a bin with that stuff (lid closed) and ran it just because I can.

Then came another test - I had just bought a pair of rubber boots. Brand new rubber has that strong odor. So I figured, "what the heck". I took my gear out of the bin, put it into smaller bins that I transport it to/from my property in. I dumped the contents of my hunting bag into the bottom of the big plastic bin, put my hunting bag in there and the new boots. Kicked off the OZ, put the lid on the bin and walked away. When I came back later - no more "new boot" smell. I'm hooked.

This model that I bought says it can also work in tents, cabins, etc. I have a cabin at my property that always has the scent of "cabin charm". It has more or less always killed my scent protection capabilities when I walk in, dry stuff out near the fire, etc. This year while I'm out hunting, I plan to kick off that OZ (someone above mentioned you don't want to breathe that stuff in - that's right). When I come back, let the place get some fresh air and hopefully I can eliminate some of that musty cabin smell too. If I can't, I can still use the OZ in the bins with my gear once it's dry.

I've already read that you still should use elimination sprays on your boots. So I will. Plus I have an ATV, so I may also spray down to get rid of any odors form that.

I did read that zone can, over time, effect rubber. So I won't make a habit out of hitting anything crucial that has rubber (harness, calls, gloves, range finder has a button on it, binos, etc.)

From: 12yards
03-Oct-19
35-Acre interesting! My sons all played hockey. It's the gloves that smell the worst.

From: Slate
03-Oct-19
Another stupid gimmick

03-Oct-19
Well it does kill bacteria. I have a 6000Mg commercial unit I run in a portable clothes closet in my garage for about 30 minutes and it kills all the odor in the whole garage. It will stretch your elastic.. I also have two of the Radial 400's for the stands to keep the wife and I fresh. I don't think it's anymore a gimmick than a grunt tube. Hex suits now...

From: 35-Acre
04-Oct-19
12 yards. Like you know then, it's not a cureall for that, because his gear still stinks when he comes home, but once it's dried and I have time I've re-treated it with the OZ.

My wife, son and I were standing in the garage last night while he was packing his bag. My wife smelled his gloves last night and was shocked. You could still smell a little of the ozone as I had just treated them in the bin again, but it definitely kills off the bacteria and subsequently the odor.

From: lewis
04-Oct-19
Isn’t the So Clean cpap cleaner an ozone generator.Lewis

From: No Mercy
04-Oct-19
It does harm elastic and rubber after time.

A customer and friend of Pnuma wrote a leading scent control brand and inquired about the impact of their Ozone product line on hunting apparel. Here was their response:

From: XXXXXXXXX

Date: September 7, 2017 at 10:02:48 AM CDT To: dmXXXXXXX@charter.net Subject: RE: Pnuma clothing vs ozone

Don,

Thank you for your inquiry. I'm not aware of any testing we have done on that clothing specifically. Ozone can eat away at rubber and elastic over time, so we do caution you on using any items with rubber or elastic on them with ozone.

We have previously attempted to distinguish between products with differing levels of rubber or elastic that responded differently to our testing. However, we have continued to test the impact of ozone on common hunting garments and are recommending that you not use Scent Crusher products with significant elastic or rubber content. While it is possible that some garments will not be impacted, we prefer to err on the side of caution.

Thank you,

XXXXXXXXX MoJack Distributors LLC https://scentcrusher.com/faq/

From: Shawn
04-Oct-19
I have a commercial until I use. It will cover 2000 sq ft. I use it in my vehicle on out of state trips and in my 8 by 10 she'd to treat my hunting clothes. You do not need to let a space clear out for 12 hrs. Open doors or windows for a few minutes. Ozone molecules attach to scent molecules and fall to the lowest point in minutes. My unit produces 50 times what an Ozonics does. As far as damaging gear it has wrecked the elastic things and that's about it. I do an hour saturation treatment to my clothes and good to go! Shawn

From: JTV
05-Oct-19
What about the "ION" generators that have just came out on the market ... supposedly not harmful to health and clothing ... and they are less expensive than Ozonics ...

From: 35-Acre
07-Oct-19
I got to try my OZ400 inside my cabin this past weekend. I'm impressed again. I hung it from the ceiling and spent 3 hours in my stand. When I came back, I opened the front door and could smell ozone. I left the front door open, opened the back door while I changed out of my gear (outside - I was trying to be cautious with scent control, so I just put my stuff right back into the plastic bins). Within a few minutes the ozone smell was gone and so was the musty cabin "charm".

To put this in perspective... My cabin is wood construction. It was made by my father and grandfather 55 years ago (or so). It's probably 12 x 24. It has a drywall ceiling but paneled walls. There are no rugs (we took them out because they seemed to hold the musty smell). I have 2 sets of bunk beds (a 2-man rack and a 3-man rack) plus a double bed and a recliner. All of these are scent traps in my opinion.

I will probably run this set each time just to help stay on top of things, but it made a big difference. My allergies didn't act up and I definitely didn't smell the closed-in cabin.

08-Oct-19
That is why ozone generators are used in commercial cleaning, they kill bacteria. Get a commercial unit from Amazon for your cabin for like $69.95 and it will put out 15 times the ozone that your OZ 400 does. I have two of the 400's for the treestands.

From: W8N4RUT
08-Oct-19
It’s no gimmick. Ozone generators have been used for years in the restoration and remediation industry among others.

If you want to save some money, don’t buy the name brand hunting ozone generators. There are plenty others available at 1/2 the price for twice the output.

Scott

From: Tonybear61
08-Oct-19
Ask the fall protection mfg. if you should expose your gear to ozone. The response will more than likely be no. If its a decent set-up shouldn't be adsorbing much odor anyway as it s generally the last layer of equipment.

That said my outer garments go into a waterproof sack with plants, leaves, dirt from my hunt area. The under layer comes off into a plastic bag ready for hand wash in unscented soap. Not only is this a good scent control technique but reduces the chance of getting odors from inside your vehicle any place else you go before being in the woods, and less chance of ticks hitchhiking back into your vehicle or house with you..

From: Genesis
08-Oct-19
Akin to walking downwind to your stand backwards because your suppose to keep the wind in your face.

09-Oct-19
Those that say hunt the wind always claim it's the only way to fool the deer's nose. Deer do have a nasty habit of appearing where you don't want them. Is it ok to spook deer with your scent if they don't follow your game plan then? I think it's best not to let deer smell you from any direction if possible.

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