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What are the new changes? Are they improved?
Both are Hoyts, both r junk
^^^. You’re kinda juvenile aren’t you.
No I am actually a 62 yr old man. Iv has issues with everyone of my hours from the hoyt maxxis to the rx1 ultra
I don’t think it’s the bows.
I'm with ambush. Ur just kind of a miserable, annoying, impossible to like anything about kinda guy. But, im guessin that may be why u as a bitter 62 year old man have nothing better to do but join a public forum and just make condescending remark after condescending remark about anything and everything like your opinion is more fact than anybody elses. I think u’d be hard-pressed to find a single person that would look at your contributions so far as a new person on this site and say “yeah, thats a dude i could hang out with”. But hey, mebbe thats what ur goin for. Congrats, ur nailin it!
I’m to understand that they changed the cams which now have an integrated stop verses the movable peg stop offering a more solid back wall. They have also added a dovetail mount for their ultra rest.
Because I said hoyt in my opinion was junk. Real men shoot Mathews, “ catch us if u can” I rather not hoyt a deer/elk I rather kill em
The man asked an honest question....he deserves an honest answer not biased opinions.
Are you considering purchasing a RX4 and have a 3 or are you looking to buy either or? IMO the 4 changes might not be enough to offset the deal you might get on a 3. If you have a 3 not sure the changes are big enough to warrant a jump up.
Hoyt = empty bank account for tiny bit of performance
Hey bigwood hunter, are you a Sagittarius? You seem very unhappy, like my ex-wife. Mathews is no better than any other bow, stop being such a fanboy. Go out and shoot some arrows, you'll feel better.
Peco, he posted in the Mathews releases short bows 2020 exactly opposite of his Mathews claims in this thread. Here it is word for word.
"Give it a few months of shooting daily before the limbs crack or delaminates. Past parallel limbs are junk"
He's just poking fun trying to rile a ew people up.
Think this elk was killed or just "hoyt"?
The stops are probably the biggest change as well as the shorter ATA of less than 30" on the one model. The Turbo looks like it still has the two round pegs. Most everything else is similar to the RX-1 and 3.
Bigwoodshunter, there is not a chance you are 62 years old. You would have been slapped to death WAY before you lived that long.
Wow, between Bigwoodsidiot and Elkman I may never buy another Hoyt...Not!
Hoyt em, not kill em. Jk guys I shoot a prime! Best bow maker so far
You Might need to get out of the “Big Woods” :^) of Massachusetts a little more.
No significant difference from last year to this year. I actually prefer the RX3 if I was choosing one of the two. Hopefully Hoyt will figure it out next year.
They felt similar but the 4 had a little better back wall with the wider stop
Why I stay away from forums like this anymore . Who needs the BS .
Why I stay away from forums like this anymore . Who needs the BS .
Bill Winke does a nice objective review on the Midwest Whitetail website. Seems to confirm what the guys above have said.
The changes are pretty minimal vs last year. DIfferent ATA's, dovetail rest mounting block on some models, and the turbo is almost universally said to shoot nicer than last year's model although no one seems to know why. That last factor is the only thing that will likely have me buying a new one. Shot one last night and it was whisper quiet.
"the turbo is almost universally said to shoot nicer than last year's model although no one seems to know why."
I can think of 1749 reasons why people say that
But if you shop around for best pricing might there only be 1653 reasons...?
Looking to up grade, have carbon element now, been shooting Hoyts since 1978 never had any problems with them. So looking to upgrade. Was thinking of RX4 or the AXius . Going to shoot other brands also.
Shoot them all. I’m in the market. Sold my prime centergy. So far I shot the prime black and the ct5 and preferred the ct5. Shoot as many as possible, including last years models. One is guaranteed to “speak” to you.
Some people like the RX1. I do not. Mine is loud and has a considerable amount of vibe. The RX3 is a considerable upgrade over the RX1 in my opinion. I feel the RX4 is a slight upgrade over the RX3. I have a lefty storm RX4 60# #3 cam on order.
I'm not sure what people expect, but the RX3 and RX4 are great platforms. Don't listen to all of the negative nabobs..shoot one and see what you think.
They are "great platforms"... With an antiquated cam system on them. Until Hoyt moves forward on their cam from the circa 2003 system they are running now, they will remain irrelevant and all of the other majors will be better options. Other manufacturers do still use that hybrid rotary mod system on their bows... On their kids/entry level bows! The new systems from PSE, Elite, Bowtech are FAAAAR easier, advanced, and forgiving to tune across a wide range of arrow spines and set ups for real broadhead tuning.
Geee-thanks for your input ELKMAN. Your copy and paste responses on EVERY post are original and informative.
Amazing that I keep killing deer/bear/turkey with my junky Hoyt bows.
To be clear: They are not junk. They are just behind and moving in the wrong direction right now. (And this year they didn't bother to move at all)
the only direction to move when your are already #1 is down so stationary is OK
Elkman's comments are the same. It doesn't matter if he's shilling for Hoyt or Bowtech, everyone else is second tier.
"Until Hoyt moves forward on their cam from the circa 2003 system they are running now, they will remain irrelevant and all of the other majors will be better options."
Do you have any idea how hyperbolic and stupid that comment comes off as?
"Do you have any idea how hyperbolic and stupid that comment comes off as?" Manufacturer Du Jouer. "unbiased opinions" .....not so much.
Opinions for sale to the highest bidder...
It's all '"true". You can hate all you want, but I speak truth. I shoot what ever is the best equipment. I choose what I shoot, no one else, and that will NEVER change. Period. I am actually saddened by the direction Hoyt has taken.
Were you not shooting Hoyt until recently? What took you so long to switch if they have not advanced since 2003?
I was kinda wondering the same thing.
It is "true" that one of the top 2 bow companies by revenue will be irrelevant? That is Trumpian.
Apparently even though Hoyt hadn't advanced since 2003, it took until last year for Bowtech to finally surpass them, thus Bowtech is now the bar upon which everything else is to be measured. Thus sayeth the lord.
Google "Elkman (insert Hoyt flagship bow from previous years)"
Elkman RX1 Elkman Carbon Defiant Elkman Carbon Spyder
Its very entertaining.
Sometimes the best way to get the answers you want about a certain bow is to talk to the rep. And Hoyt will put you in contact with the rep in your area. Also, reps will visit shops and let anyone shoot the new bows. Just contact you local shop and find out when the rep will be there.
That said, just like HDE said, the stops were the biggest change.
Saw some good commentary on another site from a tuning guru, he thinks the tweaks from last year have improved tunability - improvements you can't see in a picture or glean from a list of bow specs.
Last years tweaks were definitely a step forward in tuning and making their bows quiet again.