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Contributors to this thread:
chasintheslam 25-Nov-19
Ghost425 25-Nov-19
Jaquomo 25-Nov-19
Grubby 25-Nov-19
Bowfinatic 25-Nov-19
Bou'bound 25-Nov-19
JTV 25-Nov-19
drycreek 25-Nov-19
hdaman 25-Nov-19
walks with a gimp 25-Nov-19
walks with a gimp 25-Nov-19
yooper89 25-Nov-19
35-Acre 26-Nov-19
12yards 26-Nov-19
M.Pauls 26-Nov-19
Grey Ghost 26-Nov-19
Elite 1 26-Nov-19
PECO 26-Nov-19
No Mercy 26-Nov-19
Elite 1 26-Nov-19
1boonr 26-Nov-19
yooper89 26-Nov-19
M.Pauls 26-Nov-19
greg simon 26-Nov-19
Grey Ghost 26-Nov-19
Nick Muche 26-Nov-19
Jaquomo 26-Nov-19
Bou'bound 26-Nov-19
Jaquomo 26-Nov-19
walks with a gimp 26-Nov-19
Tobpitbull 27-Nov-19
yooper89 27-Nov-19
walks with a gimp 27-Nov-19
Brotsky 27-Nov-19
drycreek 27-Nov-19
JM 27-Nov-19
yooper89 27-Nov-19
walks with a gimp 27-Nov-19
Jaquomo 27-Nov-19
walks with a gimp 27-Nov-19
Jaquomo 27-Nov-19
Slate 28-Nov-19
Elite 1 28-Nov-19
Jaquomo 28-Nov-19
1boonr 29-Nov-19
Shawn 29-Nov-19
Shawn 29-Nov-19
TREESTANDWOLF 29-Nov-19
ground hunter 29-Nov-19
walks with a gimp 29-Nov-19
Slate 01-Dec-19
JTreeman 01-Dec-19
25-Nov-19
Contemplating getting one they have good deals right now just dont know if there worth it. Anyone use one and what's your thoughts

From: Ghost425
25-Nov-19
Worth its weight in gold. Been using it for a few years now and have had incredible encounters when I may not have without it. I believe in being a scent control freak when persuing whitetail deer as there nose is there number one sense. I have the HR 300. One thing I’d like to suggest is to get at least one extra XXL battery. Preferably 2 so you can switch them out. The battery that comes with it is ok but dies after 4-5 hours. The XXL batteries last longer In the tree

From: Jaquomo
25-Nov-19
Science says its mostly a placebo in such a diluted form but many believe in it. I believe in Nose Jammer and many are skeptical of that too.

From: Grubby
25-Nov-19
I think in a ground blind it works. In a tree stand? No I’ll stick with the nose jammer too.

25-Nov-19
I have used it effectively on many occasions but you still have to be very conscious of everything going into your scent setup.

From: Bou'bound
25-Nov-19
How do you know it’s good deal if you don’t know if it’s worth it or not

From: JTV
25-Nov-19
Injuious to humans at times and rots rubber and elastic ... hunting the wind dosnt cost a cent ...

From: drycreek
25-Nov-19
What Grubby said......and the wind is sometimes fickle. You can somewhat control that in a blind but you cannot be changing the direction of the unit all the time in a tree. Deer have eyes as well as noses.

And if you say it doesn’t work, how do you know if you’ve never used it ?

From: hdaman
25-Nov-19
Ok, I'll bite. How does nose jammer actually work? Is it a cover scent or something else?

25-Nov-19

walks with a gimp's embedded Photo
walks with a gimp's embedded Photo
Wife and I each have the Radial B400, they work to kill odor. They make a slight sound but I had 6 bucks walk by at 15 yards before I shot the biggest one at 15 yards plus they were down wind of me.

25-Nov-19

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walks with a gimp's embedded Photo
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From: yooper89
25-Nov-19
Ozone absolutely works. I use o3 on a nearly daily basis at work to remove odor from structure. Ozoning your clothes should work well. Ozonics in a tree stand, maybe. I just don’t know how concentrated it could be out of a small machine like that. If it would produce enough ozone to essentially eat up all the scent you produce.

From: 35-Acre
26-Nov-19
I have the one from ScentLok (actually I have 2 - got them at a local Gander Mountain that was going out of business at 50% off). I use them in plastic bins to scent wash my hunting clothes while I'm not wearing them. It definitely takes the odor out. I posted a longer version of this on another thread here a couple of months back. It killed all of the odor on my son's hockey gear after doing the same thing with a bigger bin.

From: 12yards
26-Nov-19
I bought a Scentlok ozone bag. It definitely makes my stuff smell like ozone. The verdict is still out on it for me. I am concerned it might wreck my clothes. And clothes aren't cheap. If I find it does that bag is gone. It is a nice bag though. As far as the units you bring out with you in the blind/treestand, I have only one experience with it. Hunted in a ground blind next to a rye field with a buddy's ozone unit. Deer came out downwind and definitely became alarmed. But they still continued into the field. But they angled away from us. Have other friends that swear by them up in their treestands if the wind isn't too strong or shifty.

From: M.Pauls
26-Nov-19
“Ok, I'll bite. How does nose jammer actually work? Is it a cover scent or something else?”

The way I understand it, is Nose Jammer is an extremely concentrated dose of a scent that deer don’t associate danger with. Once they have it in their nostrils it makes it hard for them to identify much else. The way I think of it is if I’ve ever been shopping with my wife and she asks me a smell perfumes, after the 3rd one they all smell the same because my senses are overloaded. I use Nose Jammer consistently. I have video of deer entering my scent stream, clearly picking it up, stopping and kinda going “what the heck” but more often than not they will either continue on, or nervously decide to go elsewhere. But it rarely turns into a snorting fiasco. It doesn’t mean you “don’t need to hunt the wind” but sometimes deer get on the wrong side of you and I don’t think it will hurt more than it helps

From: Grey Ghost
26-Nov-19
I think it's been settled that using ozonics on your hunting clothes in a closed container does in fact work, but hanging one in a tree is mostly a waste of time because they don't put out enough ozone to make a difference. If they did, it would be a health risk.

Matt

From: Elite 1
26-Nov-19
M Paul’s you are exactly right. I have an old doe that busted me last year she never forgot I hunt with a northwest wind she leaves the trail every time I am in stand. And comes around the back side of me. She knows something isn’t right but she never blew or turned around this year. I do not go into the woods ever without it on. Kinda smells like you just came from a carnival but it does work. I run an ozonics to.

From: PECO
26-Nov-19
Do you spray nose jammer on yourself, or on the environment around you?

From: No Mercy
26-Nov-19
Spray it around you. I spray my boots and pant legs before the walk in too. I have had deer follow my trail to the stand. It's crazy how it works!

From: Elite 1
26-Nov-19
I put it on myself. My wife drew a gun tag this year we set up a blind for her. Second to last day of season the wind switched to sw blowing right across trail had blind set up 90 yds from it. We had no choice but to sit there I sprayed the whole outside of it. Inside around all the windows and us. We were running a buddy heater she passed up three bucks and two doe’s with fawns before she killed a 127 inch buck all of those deer came down wind of us going from east to west not one of those deer became alarmed true believer.

From: 1boonr
26-Nov-19
Hdaman- nosejammer is vanilla at a much higher price

From: yooper89
26-Nov-19
Seems to me nose jammer would have a placebo affect in such a diluted form but if you think it works, then it works.

From: M.Pauls
26-Nov-19
I don’t spray myself. I soak the tree bark of my tree

From: greg simon
26-Nov-19
I have been sitting in a treestand and had a good buck come by me directly downwind and not ever notice I was there. I was not using Nosejammer or an Ozonics. What made that possible? Maybe the wind was actually carrying my scent up and out of range of the deer's nose!!! If I had been using any type of scent eliminating gizmo I would obviously have attributed it to the device/product.

Anecdotal evidence does not prove a product is effective. The science on Ozonics is pretty well settled but it's your money and if you think it works go for it!

From: Grey Ghost
26-Nov-19
Years ago I bit on the whole "no-scent" thing. No scent clothes, sprays, detergents, soaps, shampoos, deodorants....etc... I was anal about my no-scent routine. Over time, I realized that all that nonsense made absolutely no difference in my hunting success. It just added extra time and expense to my hunting enjoyment.

Cover scents, on the other hand, have proven themselves over and over in my experience. They often serve as an attractant to curious animals. I once had a spike elk stick his nose in my ear, and drool on my shoulder, after I had sprayed Essence of Fall all over myself. Heck, even camp fire smoke, cigarette smoke, or snuff seems to serve as a cover scent/attractant. I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that I shot my buck this year with a lit cig hanging out of my mouth. Moments later, while I was collecting my gear to crawl out of my stand, I had does come in directly downwind seemingly unalarmed. They spooked only after I lowered my bow to the ground.

That said, if you believe all the no-scent stuff works, and it gives you added confidence while hunting, then it certainly doesn't hurt.

Matt

From: Nick Muche
26-Nov-19
We use them for bears and I am a firm believe it gives us an edge.

From: Jaquomo
26-Nov-19
Nose Jammer is not "vanilla". It does contain vanillin along with some other highly concentrated natural substances. But sniff a bottle of pure vanilla and then spray some NJ on your hand, and they smell nothing like each other. I used to use vanilla back in the day. The difference in effectiveness is incomparable.

I spray it on my clothes and pack when elk hunting. Deer hunting on the ground from natural blinds, I spray it on logs on either side. In a Double Bull I spray it all around the open shooting window. Anyone who has followed my live muley hunts have seen near point-blank photos of bucks I've called in from straight downwind, noses twitching curiously.

From: Bou'bound
26-Nov-19
animals sometimes just don't care. it's just the game you see that you can draw conclusions from.................. many times you will see the one's that don't care and you will never see the one's that do.

From: Jaquomo
26-Nov-19
Bou, very true. Where I hunt muleys, I can see everything in every direction for a loooong way. I have seen them react adversely to doe in heat scents sometimes, so I stopped using that years ago. If Ozonics would give me one, it would be interesting to try on the ground in the "open" blinds I hunt from. But not going to pay that $ just to find out.

26-Nov-19
Jaquomo, It is proven that ozone kills bacteria. I would suggest that you purchase one and actually try it while hunting your method of choice. If it doesn't work you could always sell it just like any other piece of hunting equipment that you tried and moved on from just like the rest of us. Or,, you could keep it and remove unwanted odors from your house or car or rest room. It is a useful tool that does work. You can, Like I did and buy a commercial unit for around $69.99 that produces 6000mg. of ozone to try on your hunting clothes. It is very strong and the type you don't want in your lungs. It completely vaporized the smoke smell in my garage and hunting clothes where I used to use a bee hive smoker to smoke my hunting clothes. I was amazed the first time I used it!

27-Nov-19
Went to field and stream and looked at one... man who worked there bragged on them, 400 plus $$$ He said if don’t work I’ll refund. Took to place in Boone Cty Ky I hunt which has lots of deer... we bait them. In blind down wind of deer.... yearlings did come in and eat then left looking back at blind, came in again left.... this went on for 45mins. They knew something wasn’t right?

Then momma came in and all over ...gone.

Hour later young deer came in 15 mins. Later more mature deer, once in scent line, gone!!!

Hour later before dark a few lol deer came in and fed, started looking at blind then because they were there a few more mature deer came in, again once hit scent line gone!!!

Yes it was set up correctly in blind and was adjusted slightly each time deer spiked off to be sure.

Went back to field and stream and got my 400 back.

Don’t work friend.

From: yooper89
27-Nov-19
Gimp, I don't think Jaq was implying ozone is a sham. He was saying that is not concentrated enough coming out of the small machine to make it effective. I am in the same boat, though I've never used an Ozonics machine (again I side with Jaq - if I got one for free or heavily discounted I would love to try it out). Just professional ozone machines in my work place - where it's extremely concentrated for hours at a time.

27-Nov-19
I didn't imply that he said it was a sham. Simply that if he is courious enough to try for free why not support an outdoor equipment manufacture and just try one.

From: Brotsky
27-Nov-19

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Brotsky's embedded Photo
I've said I use nose jammer religiously because it may give you the second or two you need to make a shot before a mature buck bolts at your scent. Witness exhibit A above^^ This buck came in behind me and was going to pass my stand downwind of me. The first possible shooting lane I had to make the shot was also exactly where my scent stream was blowing as verified by my puffer bottle and some milk weed I had grabbed. I knew that he would wind me when he got into that shooting lane. As he approached I drew and waited for him to step into the opening. When he hit the opening and the scent stream you could tell there was a moment's confusion as to what he smelled and that's when my arrow zipped through him. I believe 100% that if this buck had hit that scent stream as he entered my shooting window he immediately would have turned himself inside out without the nose jammer and I'd have a story about the one that got away instead of a trophy photo. Best $8 I'll ever spend and will continue to use it as long as its available.

From: drycreek
27-Nov-19
Tobpitbull, just to clarify, you say you were in a blind down wind of the deer and they smelled you. How in hell did they get in your scent line if you were downwind of them ?

From: JM
27-Nov-19
When it comes to the sense of smell I think we humans are essentially blind compared to deer and therefore we cannot really interpret the effectiveness of any of these products ourselves and can only do it through observation of the reaction of the deer themselves. There are so many variables in any individual encounter that we can't monitor that we don't really know when things helped out and only sometimes know when things fail.

I have used scent reduction sprays, Nose Jammer, Scent Lok, and Ozonics and I believe they help to some degree just because the number of times I get scented by deer has dropped since employing them but they definitely are not close to 100% effective. I subjectively think that of these that Ozonics is the most effective but it is also the biggest pain in the backside; it is a heavy, noisy , takes time to setup, and you have to be able to recharge the batteries. I can understand why people like the simplicity of "Just hunt the wind"; but the wind direction is not always constant and therefore it is not 100% effective.

I guess you have to decide for yourself if the some improvement is worth the cost and the hassle. I do suggest going all in or don't bother.

And "always hunt the Wind" and the right topography really helps too.

John

From: yooper89
27-Nov-19
$8 beats the hell out of $250-$400 for ozone. I'll give the old Nose Jammer a try.

27-Nov-19
Remember when skunk screen was the go to remedy for a deer nose! Things just come and go with time.

From: Jaquomo
27-Nov-19
Gimp, I don't really feel the need to use Ozonics unless they make a hat I can try when hunting elk. Most all my gear for the past 10+ years comes gratis, so if Ozonics wants to give me one to try/keep/endorse I'd be happy to do it. Otherwise I'll keep on killing big stuff with Nose Jammer and dumb and happy with the results.. :-)

27-Nov-19
So you get free Nose Jammer?

From: Jaquomo
27-Nov-19
Ha, seriously, no I don't get free Nose Jammer. Not even a hat. And they've gotten a lot of free advertising from me in articles and elsewhere. But a $13 can lasts me a whole season, I can carry it in my hunting pack, and it works.

From: Slate
28-Nov-19
All gimmicks but whatever makes you happy. You are making somebody wealthy.

From: Elite 1
28-Nov-19
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink the proof is in the back straps.

From: Jaquomo
28-Nov-19
Slate, here's a challenge for you: post up some pics of mature bucks inside 20 yards directly downwind, taken at ground level (NOT trail cam pics). Show us what you've got. If you've followed my live hunts you've seen dozens of photos I've taken on the ground while on the hunt, some at point blank range. So post them up.

From: 1boonr
29-Nov-19
Topper- vanilla is even cheaper and will work just as good, all things being equal. Contrary to the name, nosejammer is not jamming a mature bucks nose. If it did you could douse yourself in it and hunt any wind. You would smell nice, kinda like vanilla

From: Shawn
29-Nov-19
A lot depends on the animal and where you hunt. I hunt whitetails and I can honestly say the whitetails in Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa and a few other states let me get away with less scent control than the NY whitetail I hunt. I believe Ozone can and does work and use a high out put machine for my clothes and gear but the units that folks take to the trees do not in my opinion put out enough Ozone to make much of a difference at all. Nosejammer is different, I have had ok results with it in the Midwest and plains states but here in the Northeast none

From: Shawn
29-Nov-19
It actually has spooked deer many times that I have tried to use it. Shawn

29-Nov-19
I have to agree with it depends on the animal. A few times, Nose Jammer, absolutely worked on a mature doe and separately with real nice decent buck. Both deer smelled it instantly and they seemed to become preoccupied with it. On another occasion though, I had a mature buck smell it and he quietly back peddled out of my range, mostly to do with this "new smell" I can only guess. Its a risk I guess.

I probably use Ozonics in a ground blind, but if the wind is over 8-10 MPH, I'm not sure I could have confidence in it, but then again, If I shot a "Booner" with one, I guess I would.

Have fun all

29-Nov-19
I am going to try that nose jammer for late season...... I am too mobile of a hunter to us an ozonics, but who knows............ my best defense is usually milk weed pod, or my bic lighter for watching the wind..........................

29-Nov-19
The Radial 400 B is about the size of a 32 ounce tumbler and weighs a couple pounds. battery lasts for about 6 hours on high. Just hang it in the tree with you or set it on the ground or hang in a bush. Doesn't matter if it's hanging downwind or upwind of you.

From: Slate
01-Dec-19
Good for you Lou. Like I said whatever makes you happy. I do very well not wasting money and time on all the gimmicks. I hunt the wind and enjoy my own success.

From: JTreeman
01-Dec-19
I feel the real question is does any of it work on Alabama bucks?!?!? All this talk of NY deer, Midwest deer, mule deer. They are all nothing compared to an Alabama buck!

—Jim

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