How did they fall?
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Contributors to this thread:
cnelk 30-Nov-19
wyobullshooter 30-Nov-19
RK 30-Nov-19
Kodiak 30-Nov-19
cnelk 30-Nov-19
Yellowjacket 30-Nov-19
fubar racin 30-Nov-19
Russell 30-Nov-19
Trophyhill 30-Nov-19
1boonr 30-Nov-19
bentshaft 30-Nov-19
Paul@thefort 30-Nov-19
Scrappy 30-Nov-19
GF 30-Nov-19
fubar racin 30-Nov-19
greg simon 30-Nov-19
Brotsky 30-Nov-19
Ambush 01-Dec-19
Ghost425 01-Dec-19
Ghost425 01-Dec-19
Ghost425 01-Dec-19
Ghost425 01-Dec-19
Ghost425 01-Dec-19
Bloodtrail 01-Dec-19
Bou'bound 01-Dec-19
Geno 01-Dec-19
PECO 01-Dec-19
Highlife 01-Dec-19
Whocares 01-Dec-19
standswittaknife 01-Dec-19
Kodiak 01-Dec-19
RK 01-Dec-19
Scoot 01-Dec-19
air leak 01-Dec-19
Bou'bound 01-Dec-19
cnelk 01-Dec-19
goelk 01-Dec-19
Ambush 01-Dec-19
RK 01-Dec-19
midwest 01-Dec-19
Grey Ghost 01-Dec-19
Ghost425 01-Dec-19
Grey Ghost 01-Dec-19
GF 01-Dec-19
Ron Niziolek 01-Dec-19
Ghost425 01-Dec-19
Ghost425 01-Dec-19
Ghost425 01-Dec-19
DoorKnob 01-Dec-19
cnelk 02-Dec-19
x-man 02-Dec-19
Grey Ghost 02-Dec-19
Brian M. 02-Dec-19
elkmtngear 02-Dec-19
Bob H in NH 03-Dec-19
4406v 04-Dec-19
Jaquomo 04-Dec-19
Bou'bound 04-Dec-19
Bake 04-Dec-19
trakman 04-Dec-19
4406v 05-Dec-19
Jethro 05-Dec-19
MichaelArnette 05-Dec-19
From: cnelk
30-Nov-19

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I started a thread quite awhile ago but couldn’t find it so I’ll post it again.

How did your animal - deer/elk - fall after it was shot? Did it fall on the same side the arrow entered? Or opposite side?

My bull elk fell on the same side the arrow entered.

30-Nov-19
Dang, Brad, you shouldn’t make me try to remember something that happened almost 3 months ago! After much thought, mine fell on the opposite side.

From: RK
30-Nov-19
Cnelk.

What does the side that the animal falls on indicate or mean. Old Native American thing ??

From: Kodiak
30-Nov-19

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Same side it entered.

From: cnelk
30-Nov-19
RK - the other thread I mentioned it was obvious that most animals fell on the side they were shot.

Just curious if the data stayed the same.

From: Yellowjacket
30-Nov-19
Exit side

From: fubar racin
30-Nov-19
Cow entry bull exit

From: Russell
30-Nov-19

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This one fell entrance side up.
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This one fell entrance side up.
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Exit side up.
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Exit side up.

From: Trophyhill
30-Nov-19
Neither, it was a frontal

From: 1boonr
30-Nov-19
This is going to be 50/50 on side shots if you have a big enough sample.

From: bentshaft
30-Nov-19
Exit side.

From: Paul@thefort
30-Nov-19

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From: Scrappy
30-Nov-19

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My buck this year fell on exit side. My bull last was shot with a frontal shot so he died upside down.

From: GF
30-Nov-19
Last one fell onto the entry side, which almost got hairy in bad light, because the arrow passed almost entirely through, which left a still very sharp broadhead sticking up in the air.

I don’t think I got anywhere close to it, but when I did notice it, it seemed WAY too close for comfort.

Beyond that, I’d say 50:50, but if you damage one shoulder more than the other, they may well fall toward that worse- injured side.

I’ve noticed that a broadhead lodged in the off shoulder can cause an animal to run in an arc, rather than a straight line... Pretty sure I’m going to need to recall that at some point when an animal tears off and leaves sparse sign....

From: fubar racin
30-Nov-19
Scrappy that pic is pretty awesome man!

From: greg simon
30-Nov-19

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Mine fell on the exit side this year.

From: Brotsky
30-Nov-19

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Also exit side up.
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Also exit side up.
Exit side up.

From: Ambush
01-Dec-19

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Fell on the intake. Only remember 'cause it just happened and I have an "as he lay" pic.

From: Ghost425
01-Dec-19

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Cow elk exit side and buck antelope on exit side.

From: Ghost425
01-Dec-19

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Whitetail buck fell on entry side, you can see the arrow sticking through. Definitely have made better shots than this one but it was a short recovery.

From: Ghost425
01-Dec-19

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Muley buck fell on entry side but no pass through

From: Ghost425
01-Dec-19

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Called in this guy for my brother and he killed his first bull ever. The bull fell on the entry side

From: Ghost425
01-Dec-19

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That’s 2 entry sides and 2 exit sides for me, and one entry side for my brother.

From: Bloodtrail
01-Dec-19

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Whoops! I guess I have to talk to my bull....nose plow. But his body was leaning on the side the arrow came out. You can see the entry a little in the pic.

From: Bou'bound
01-Dec-19
The trend here is enlightening

From: Geno
01-Dec-19

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My bull fell on the entry side.

From: PECO
01-Dec-19

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Doe down on her entry side, exit side is up.

From: Highlife
01-Dec-19
I think Ive only had one deer die on the entrance side interesting topic

From: Whocares
01-Dec-19
Not to complicate CN's research, but should the wind direction and speed be considered? Not to mention slope...

01-Dec-19

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Buddies bull this year

From: Kodiak
01-Dec-19

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From: RK
01-Dec-19
On a side note. Do you think if this study was conducted south of the equator the results would be opposite.

Maybe some guys that have hunted Africa, New Zealand, OZ could chime in

From: Scoot
01-Dec-19
What about if the shooter is left handed or right handed? How about if the fletchings are right helical or left helical?

From: air leak
01-Dec-19
Two deer this season, and both fell entrance side up.

I don't think that there is any reason for which side the deer fall.

50/50 chance..

From: Bou'bound
01-Dec-19
If the arrow is still hanging out is there a propensity to fall on it In Order to dislodge it.

From: cnelk
01-Dec-19
The basis of the question is to detemine if the entrance side is weakened faster than the exit side.

But thanks to the smart ass replies! Thumbs up!

From: goelk
01-Dec-19
neither i did not get shot this year.

From: Ambush
01-Dec-19
"On a side note. Do you think if this study was conducted south of the equator the results would be opposite."

Toilets swirl the opposite direction in Australia, so a reasonable and scientific mind would conclude that animals would fall opposite too.

From: RK
01-Dec-19
Ambush. That's what I was thinking too

From: midwest
01-Dec-19

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Entrance side, entrance side.

From: Grey Ghost
01-Dec-19
I think it depends on the broadhead. An animal shot with a mechanical will usually fall on the entry side, due to the imbalance caused by the arrow slicking out of only that side. It's 50/50 with fixed blades because there's usually equal sized holes on both sides, and no imbalance. ;-)

Cnelk must be really bored..... ;-)

Matt

From: Ghost425
01-Dec-19
Respectfully I’m not sure that I agree with that theory Grey Ghost although I’m not saying that you’re wrong. I shoot one of those dreaded mechanicals that everyone hates but I had mixed results this year, 2 fell on the entry side and 2 fell on the exit side. all using the same BH. I’m not saying that those 4 animals that I killed is enough research to determine anything. Just not sure if I see enough evidence to see any real trend yet but I did not see Brads original thread either.

From: Grey Ghost
01-Dec-19
Surely you knew I was joking, Ghost425.

I think the side that an animal falls on is mostly random, and probably has more to do with the terrain that he falls in more than anything else. I know that when I stumble and fall in the woods gravity usually dictates that I fall downhill. The notion that the entry or exit wounds have any influence on what side an animal falls on is rather silly to me.

Matt

From: GF
01-Dec-19
I’ve been taking some “feedback” for being too pointed lately, so reading Ghost425’s post cracked me up....

“Respectfully”..,, I don’t have time to sound that respectful!

From: Ron Niziolek
01-Dec-19

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Entry side down.

From: Ghost425
01-Dec-19
Definitely, I can agree with that Grey Ghost. I think terrain plays a part and maybe the momentum that they have when falling. I shot a cow elk this year and she went about 30 yards, stopped and started swaying back and forth until she fell over dead. I don’t think the placement of the arrow had anything to do with which side she fell on. It coulda went either way, she just swayed until to weak to hold her own weight anymore and then fell. I’d be interested to see what Brads research determines.

From: Ghost425
01-Dec-19
Well that lack of respect GF is probably why you get no respect on this site. I’m not going to get into it with you as others have on the Michigan Baiting thread though.

From: Ghost425
01-Dec-19
Ron that’s a cool pic. Would love to know the story behind that bull covered in snow.

From: DoorKnob
01-Dec-19
Not every shot has an exit, so maybe entrance v other?

From: cnelk
02-Dec-19
@ Grey Ghost

No Im not bored. Just a topic I thought was a bit interesting.

Poaching every thread on Bowsite, questioning the size of Kodiak bucks and other's shooting ability..... now thats bored. Ol' T'Roy shut ya down pretty hard on that one didnt he?

From: x-man
02-Dec-19
"Almost" every double lung shot of mine has taken a hard left turn while expiring. When bloodtrailing at night, when the trail turns left, the deer is right there. Sometimes they are laying on their left side, sometimes on their right, but almost always they took a left turn as they blacked out.

From: Grey Ghost
02-Dec-19
Cnelk,

I actually found T'roy's response to me on the Kodiak thread comical. I didn't read that whole thread, I started at BigEasyGator's recap. He wounded and didn't recover 2 deer with 55 yard shots, before finally connecting at a more reasonable range. The next guy to recap hit one in the rump at 61 yards, requiring a closer follow up killing shot. Clearly they were pushing the limits of their shooting abilities, hence my question.

As for this thread, have you realized any significant pattern? It appears about 50/50 to me, which is consistent with my experience. My buck fell in plain sight at 15 yards this year. When he fell, his front legs gave away first, and he basically face-planted, then rolled over onto the downhill side. That was typical of many animals that I've double lunged. Which side they came to rest on was simply a function of which way they were facing in relation to the terrain.

Matt

From: Brian M.
02-Dec-19
Entry side up.

From: elkmtngear
02-Dec-19

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Entry side up

From: Bob H in NH
03-Dec-19
2 whitetail doe shot within feet of each other, opposite sides, both pass through. Funny part both left on identical paths and died in the same hole under the same Bush. Shots were weeks apart and deer were laying identically

Very weird

From: 4406v
04-Dec-19

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On the side the arrow entered

From: Jaquomo
04-Dec-19
I started thinking back in the animals I've killed. If they are dead on their feet they fall randomly when their legs give out. If not, ie.. liver shot, gut shot, they almost always lie down with the entry wound side facing up until they expire.

I shot my Aussie red stag twice, right side passthrough at 25 yards, left side quartering away at about 55. Considering he was below the equator and the direction of my helicals, he wasn't sure which side to fall on so he went down with his legs folded under him.

From: Bou'bound
04-Dec-19

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THIS ONE FELL DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN

From: Bake
04-Dec-19
I've tried to think back. I think it's definitely a mix. Some fall one way, some the other.

As far as south of the equator, I've killed 4 animals in south Africa. 2 fell on the entrance, and 2 fell on the exit. . . . .

From: trakman
04-Dec-19
Grant Goat will do that if they have they can get to a cliff

From: 4406v
05-Dec-19

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From: Jethro
05-Dec-19
Depends what side of the Divide you are on. East of the Divide fall toward Atlantic or Gulf of Mexico. To the west fall toward Pacific. If you are up on the Divide they face plant or tip over backwards. I'm not familiar below the equator.

Both my elk and deer fell onto the exit side of the shot. I must admit I never gave it a thought, until this thread.

05-Dec-19
Both my elk fell on the entrance side, interesting topic. I’ve shot so many whitetial I can’t hardly recall that would be too much work

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