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Bugs in mounts.
Whitetail Deer
Contributors to this thread:
goyt 05-Dec-19
BIG BEAR 05-Dec-19
Habitat 05-Dec-19
Grey Ghost 05-Dec-19
Schmitty78 05-Dec-19
goyt 05-Dec-19
goyt 05-Dec-19
BIG BEAR 05-Dec-19
goyt 05-Dec-19
Grubby 05-Dec-19
luckydraw 05-Dec-19
goyt 05-Dec-19
goyt 05-Dec-19
Genesis 05-Dec-19
Treefarm 06-Dec-19
goyt 06-Dec-19
Treefarm 06-Dec-19
goyt 06-Dec-19
Treefarm 06-Dec-19
Treefarm 06-Dec-19
7mm08 06-Dec-19
Schmitty78 06-Dec-19
kscowboy 06-Dec-19
goyt 09-Dec-19
luckydraw 12-Dec-19
SD BuckBuster 13-Dec-19
Bou'bound 14-Dec-19
goyt 15-Dec-19
goyt 15-Dec-19
Bou'bound 15-Dec-19
goyt 16-Dec-19
kscowboy 07-Jan-20
Fuzzy 08-Jan-20
From: goyt
05-Dec-19
I have a number of mounts in a room with a high ceiling. Below a whitetail mount I am seeing some small bugs on the floor which are less than a 1/16" long. I remember seeing a thread on here about bugs attacking mounts. Right now I do not have a ladder tall enough to reach the mount. I can see no damage to the mount but I suspect that the bugs are coming from it. I have a total of 17 mounts in the room so I am concerned about this turning into a major problem. Does anyone have any information on the type of bugs that attack mounts and how to address them?

From: BIG BEAR
05-Dec-19
If you’re seeing bugs then you already have a problem. You better find a way to get up to that mount and see if hair is pulling out.

I’m no expert..... but I think moths are a big problem.....

From: Habitat
05-Dec-19
I was told they were rug weavals My pest control guy mixed up some clear spray in a windex type bottle and I just spray lightly when ever I clean,they eat the hair right at the skin line and you will see the shells usually in the ear hair

From: Grey Ghost
05-Dec-19
Moths, beetles, and cockroaches are all bugs that will infest mounts. I once mounted a buck that was infested with lice on the hoof. I use the Borax method of taxidermy, instead of tanning the capes. Even though this buck's cape had been frozen prior to mounting, the lice managed to survive. I had to leave the mount in my garage for a few months before the lice finally vacated it due to not having any blood to feed on.

Can you post a picture of the bugs? Perhaps we can ID them for you.

Matt

From: Schmitty78
05-Dec-19
I spray mine with “Mount Medix”, sorta smells like peppermint and is supposed to keep moths and other bugs out of your mounts

From: goyt
05-Dec-19

goyt's embedded Photo
goyt's embedded Photo
Here is a picture. Unfortunately they are so small it is hard to get a good picture. They look like fleas to me. The mount is 10+ years old so I doubt that they are fleas from the buck himself.

From: goyt
05-Dec-19

goyt's embedded Photo
goyt's embedded Photo
Here is a picture. Unfortunately they are so small it is hard to get a good picture. They look like fleas to me. The mount is 10+ years old so I doubt that they are fleas from the buck himself.

From: BIG BEAR
05-Dec-19
You sure those are bugs and not mouse turds ??

From: goyt
05-Dec-19
I am sure that they are bugs. I can see the shell and legs.

From: Grubby
05-Dec-19
Once a year all mine get hauled out, blown off and sprayed with permethrin

From: luckydraw
05-Dec-19
1 possibility. They look like carpet bettles to me. They would be dead adults which do not harm anything but plant matter. The problem is the larva is what eats just about anything. Including animal hair and leather. I got them in my house this summer and got them under control I THINK?!? I have not seen evidence yet them hitting my mounts and have had talks with my Taxidermist. The larva is like a small maggot with tiny legs. Visible but hard to find. Look under rugs or couches or on mount. So far they have not come back. But I have read they do attack mounts. Hope it works out!

From: goyt
05-Dec-19
luckydraw, how did you handle them?

From: goyt
05-Dec-19
Schmitty78, I called Mount Medix and left a message. Did you use their mount saver?

From: Genesis
05-Dec-19
Permethrin,or Befrin (slightly longer duration of action) yep the same stuff you use for ticks just spray on your mounts

From: Treefarm
06-Dec-19
I remember Pat L. writing or having an article on this subject. I think he sent his away for treatment. Me, I would nip it in the bud and talk to a professional taxidermist. One could spray a synthetic pyrethroid but it may need a more permeable anaerobic treatment.

I dread getting an infestation.

From: goyt
06-Dec-19
Thanks for the responses. I spoke with a guy from Mount Medix who identified the bugs as a type of beetle. He assured me that their products will take care of my problem. The costs were reasonable so I have placed an order. Thanks again especially you Schmitty78.

From: Treefarm
06-Dec-19
Let us know how it goes. I would be very careful to inspect the infested mount if the product is a repellent to ensure the beetles are removed. Generally it would take a product that kills the existing Coleoptera insects, then for future, repellant applications.

From: goyt
06-Dec-19
I purchased a product to kill the bugs and a second product to repel them in the future. I will let you know how they work.

From: Treefarm
06-Dec-19

Treefarm's Link
Here is the old thread... EDIT: Link doesn’t work, use link supplied in my next message.

From: Treefarm
06-Dec-19

Treefarm's Link

From: 7mm08
06-Dec-19
A twice a year spraying of permethrin will keep them pretty safe.

From: Schmitty78
06-Dec-19
Yep, I use mount saver. I started using because I had some type of small insect around one of my mounts. Haven’t had any since, stuff seems to work well

From: kscowboy
06-Dec-19

kscowboy's Link
My dad had this gentleman come and spray his mounts when I discovered moths crawling through the hair of one his African mounts. He has a lot of taxidermy, so it made sense to hire Trophy DOC. He goes from PA all the way to CA and works his way back. I took him down to our farm to spray some mounts down there and he was a nice guy. So far, no more bugs.

I have my own mounts and a taxidermist told me to spray flying insect killer liberally on the mounts every year. I get them from Ace when they are on sale and go to town and also set off some bug bombs. That being said, I am curious about the other sprays mentioned on here. Sunlight and bugs are the biggest threats to taxidermy (or worse, a wife who won't let you keep them in the house).

Looking forward to hearing additional responses on this thread.

From: goyt
09-Dec-19
Just a quick update. While I was waiting for the delivery of the products from Mount Medix I took five mounts down and put them on the floor. I soon had beetles crawling on the floor and I was concerned about spreading the problem. I went to Walmart and bought a Raid bomb. After treating with the bomb I still had a few beetles moving but it was greatly reduced. For the next 24 hours or more I had dead and dying bugs showing up including two cock roaches which I would have never guessed were there. The number of beetles showing up is way down and may be at or close to zero. It appears that the residuals from the bomb are still killing things. I will treat with the Mount Medix products when they come but I am thinking that treating with a Raid bomb periodically may work well.

From: luckydraw
12-Dec-19
goyt - Sorry I did not respond - i was away for a while on a hunt - and I still dont have bow site on my phone. I got an exterminator and had him come back once. Also talking to others I vacuum a lot . That actually one of the best preventions. Suck the little buggers up before they can do any damage. Please keep us posted. Thanks

13-Dec-19
Wow I didn't know this was a thing. Good luck!

From: Bou'bound
14-Dec-19
what mount did the roaches come out of do you know.

From: goyt
15-Dec-19

goyt's embedded Photo
goyt's embedded Photo
Bou'bound, the only mount that I have been able to confirm that there are beetles in it is a whitetail. The very top whitetail in the picture. I took the lower 4 mounts and put them in a separate room and it does not appear like anything is coming out of them.

From: goyt
15-Dec-19
I took the 5 mounts down and put them on the floor. There were clearly beetles coming out of what was the top mount. How they got up there I have no idea. It is surprising that the other 4 show no damage. While I was waiting for products from Mount Medix I was concerned about the beetles getting into some of my other mounts so I sealed the room and set of a Raid bomb. That seemed to help a lot. Them I took the 5 whitetails, 1 sheep, a bear rug , a partial goat skin and a beaver skin and put them outside in temperatures down to 16 degrees. That seemed to help some. I still had beetles coming out of the 1 whitetail. It got up to 40 on Friday so I took the whitetail mount that I could see larva on and hung it outside and treated it with Mount Saver. I also treated the other 4 whitetails and a sheep with Mount Protector because I could see no damage to them or any infestations. I brought the whitetail mount with the infestation back inside prior to going to bed because it was going to rain. The next morning there may have been no new beetles on the floor but they are so small that it is hard to tell. By today, 2 days later I am seeing a few beetles again. Some seem to be coming from the same whitetail mount. I have also found beetles in 3 other locations were I have no mounts. One area is in the laundry room where they could be coming in through the opening for the dryer vent, another is in the mud room and a third is by a patio door from the dinette area. all of the area are connected to the outside. I do not think that these beetles came from the mounts and they all seem to be dead. So far only the one mount has any damage and that is on the top where it is not visible . I do need to get a handle on this though. I will retreat the whitetail mount and seal it in plastic for a few days and leave it in a warm place so that the ingredients can work better. I have another 8 shoulder mounts, a half mount and I full size mount that I have not touched yet. Still trying to get a handle on things.

From: Bou'bound
15-Dec-19
You may not be an entomologist but by looking at those mount you sure as hell know how to hunt deer man

From: goyt
16-Dec-19
Bou'bound, Thank you for your kind comment.

No new beetles on the floor this morning so I think that I am gaining on it. My wife loves the fact that I sweep the floor at least twice a day so that I can see the little buggers. We have a German short hair that both sheds hair and drags dirt and her food around. Of course we add to it as well.

From: kscowboy
07-Jan-20
Just read an article in Bowhunting World and they also recommended Bifen. Think I might order some and do a 6 month a proactive treatment.

From: Fuzzy
08-Jan-20
Bou'bound X2 :)

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