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Solution to eliminate point creep or stimulus for greater point acceleration.
My 1st stragedy every elk season in MT or ID is to find out which drainages the wolves been in. Once confirmed, those drainages will have no elk. If 201 has a pack or two those elk will move.
For awhile smart bow hunters will find the wolf and where they have been and that makes targeting elk easy if. . . they stay in GMU. If there are two good packs all those CO PPs are junk for 201.
MT and ID elk hunters who kill elk in active wolf areas will need to be consulted. Its a whole new hunt style once yer in with the wolf. Bulls learn quick . Bugle during daylight equals death by dog!
Welcome CO hunters to a real bow hunt challange. If those pics are accurate of a 201 Dog Hit???
Not sure if it’s the same group. Locals had kept it quiet and at least one out of that bunch died.
They could have followed the migration out into that 2/201 country. There is a lot more food to the east of there all the way north of Steamboat when the migrating critters move back up in the hills.
Would be nice if the nonnative invasive wolves would focus on the nonnative invasive horses out there and reduce the population by 90% like they did to the moose and elk in NW Wyoming.
Kind of makes you wonder if they weren’t planted up there by the Wolfies getting a jump start. Hard to believe they crossed all that wide open Wyoming country where almost everyone has a rifle and wolves can be shot on sight, 24/7, 365 days a year, with no license required.
The Wyoming non-trophy designation should carry south into Colorado...
Pretty sure wolves hunt at night as well as in the daytime.
And with their noses, I don’t imagine they’re too dependent on bugling to locate a herd.
You guys will have to forgive me for being a bit skeptical about CPW secretly stocking wolves in a prime unit.
edit - can Stop The Wolf use this to rebrand and put wolfies brains in pretzels? Spin it that introduced wolves will be bad for natural migration of wolves from the north as well as potential devastation for the Mexican wolves.
Hunt in Wolf and Grizz country much? Never, is my guess.
They will shut down in daylight and go off right at last light and then Silence.
Love the CT elk wizard!
Exactly where is this unit 202, with great elk densities, at, Shawn?
Not unless you hunt where the wolves are afraid of the dark.
GF You are clueless. What you hunt the hills U of CO one time?
Stop embarrassing yerself.
So, were you lying when you said this on another thread, or are you lying now?
BTW, there's a very good chance you might see me up there this year. I'll be the guy flying past you on an e-bike with my compound strapped to my backpack. I'll be sure to wave.
I have zero PPs, So, how am i going legally on the hunt?
Yer left wing hate clouds your jusgement young Padewan.
You guys put up with guy here?
Go ahead and keep enlightening us with you anonymous insight, ranger. It’s amusing.
So tell us how does a guy with Zero piunts gets to go into 201 on this hunt.
Quick hit yer Wiki wizard.
Dont tell me im lying you wolf lover. I will never buy another tag to hunt MT State Libville. Yer the type and reason why. I will not miss it one bit. I was humping the western slope while you were getting yer nose wiped back home in Kali , OR or NJ, from CO You aint. I heard about your guide service in the 06-07 time. Teeeerds! You a migrator and the hieght of CO problems.
Or should we get back to the subject?
Whats the rule for a 201 draw hunter Front Ranger oh, You LOM’d Right, tapped out.
Question remains big Elk Guide.
You dont know cuz ya never drew a big.
This clown was part of the reason the CF was shut down. Why his shit posting is permitted to continue is beyond me. I'll take 100 Gene Jockeys, Blue Dog's, Jimbo's, Catfish's over this ANONYMOUS ARGUMENTATIVE INTOLERANT DISRESPECTFUL "bowhunter" any day. Gee, looks like I posted part of the Bowsite CoC.
You got more BowLib Clowns who have the membership here fooled than you know.
You have guys here who are actually AntiHunters who some think are gold star posters.
Plenty great folks here but the Deep Bowsite posters are disinformation experts.
Teter is a Wolfer. His latest comments mirror “Living With Wolves” rabid wolfers.
One look at homepage will tell ya all you need to.
Folks you have to understand you have people on here who are antithetical to hunting, bows or gun.
Just here collecting on us for ammo to use in the cause.
You guys even bow hunt? Even care about wilves with respect to hunting the Mt states?
Same guys who cried on CF if you badmouthed HRC.
Seems like you same guys just whine when you dont hear what like or agree with.
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Sounds like a PLAN
Your excepable to wolves now, you will be exceptable to grizz next.
Like i have said before. I will never lay down $ to hunt the Burple stAte of CO.
You’ll wake up 60yrs old maybe, and have a thought of your own.
BTW, confirmed dead wolves and other wolf sightings in Colorado date back to 2004. It's no secret that some wolves have already migrated to CO.
The collared one confirmed last year in Jackson County was from the Snake River pack in Yellowstone about 300 miles away.
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I have almost verbatim made several facts Meat eater states here and you categorically denied them and still do. Now in a nice presentation you boot lick.
Your a really hard bird to figger. Do you have any thoughts of your own? I know your a "control C, control V" guy but common. I have never seen a single thought of your own on here or CF.
"Those in favor of reintroductions are making an organized effort to gather support. Their presentations tend to target college campuses, urban audiences, and second-home owners in mountain resort towns. These people are the least likely to be affected by wolf reintroductions, but the most likely to support them. It’s an intentional and effective tactic to gather support from people whose only understanding of wolves is based on sympathetic nature documentaries. These groups commonly use emotionally charged, scientifically vague arguments that target places like Rocky Mountain National Park for reintroduction."
This is a gross understatement. Meateater should do some more digging. These folks don't need to gain support they have it. From the GVT to Google, Amazon, ASCPA, Humane Soc, etc, etc.
and. . . . . Huge Trust endowments. I'm working on the research of these wealthy Lib donors now. Once you have the financial statement its just research and digging. Connecting dots.
Had a discussion with two black hill folks , Hot Springs and Rapid. Both confirmed the Bark biters are on the move to put these Super Dogs back in.
My assuption upon this discussions is they will pen them on the Res in NW Hills and wait. But, you know accidents happen and dogs get free!
Sourh Dakota, you best get your duks in a row as you are next.
No stopping this now im afraid.
Go to Wolf.org
Look at donors, grants, research, reeducation and financials. Once you see how this org is layed out, funded and tax shielded it is easy to see the 5 W’s and it parallels outfits like Move On .org
This Orgs profile is nearly identical most far left liberal politcal outfits. Well funded, well represented legally and tied to education grants, USFWS study grants and on and on.
You hunters are funding this. Call your House Rep and demand accountability and transparency!
Don"t take my word for it, do your own study. I hunt nationwide from Hawaii to ME and do about 200 days in t he bush every year. One thing about working for Uncle Sam for 25yrs i know a chit ton of guys just like myself in about every state. We all hunt, we know GVT BS and agree this Wolf Crap is big biz and they have $ and political backing.
Please show the class where I've contradicted anything the Meateater said. Put up, or shut up, ranger. You're embarrassing yourself.
Meateater has done his work. Cudo's to him. Great paper. needs to name names and start making calls. Get statement on the record as to the 5W's of Wolves in CO and elsewhere.
Draw Fire Leg.
These are superwealthy hippies who took over places I use to frequent like Ketchum, Big Sky, Driggs, Jackson etc, etc .
Meateater makes note of these types of Wolfers. Who'd a thunk it ? Jeremiah Johnson a super wolfie.
Check link. . . . . These nasty hippies pack a $ punch.
Major take-aways from the Meateater’s article….
1. Since reintroduction of wolves in neighboring states to Colorado, they have naturally migrated to Colorado. I’ve made that point repeatedly.
2. Colorado Parks and Wildlife has recognized their natural natural migration for years. I’ve made that point point repeatedly.
3. Pro-wolfers target small areas where elk are overpopulated in Colorado to suggest a statewide re-intro of wolves is necessary. I’ve made that point point repeatedly.
4. The people advocating reintroduction of wolves in Colorado are “completely detached from nature”. I’ve made that point point repeatedly.
5. The CPW and hunters have successfully managed elk herds for decades without wolves. I’ve made that point point repeatedly.
6. Wolves are managed in Colorado by the USFW because they are listed as endangered species. No biology ballot will change that until they are delisted. I’ve made that point point repeatedly.
8. Wolf detractors use hyperbole instead of biology to argue against reintroduction. Are you still listening, ranger? I’ve made that point point repeatedly.
9. There are areas where wolves and elk coexist without elk numbers bottoming out. I’ve made that point point repeatedly.
10. Nobody can say with certainty how reintroduction of wolves will impact Colorado’s wildlife, or if their numbers will ballon beyond objective numbers. I’ve made that point point repeatedly.
11. Colorado developed a proactive management plan for the natural migration of wolves in 2005, with a “live and let live” approach. I’ve made that point point repeatedly.
13. Colorado should manage wolves the same way they do other species, in the form of hunting and trapping. I’ve made that point repeatedly.
14. Biology not ballots should dictate wildlife management in Colorado. I’ve made that point point repeatedly.
Your turn, ranger.
You just proved my point. Copied meats statements then " yeah, I said that". Yer gobbler of historic proportion.
Any wolfer will tell and its widely known. Northern Wolves have to pass hunnerds of miles of what they call Big Death to get to southern Rockies. Which they admit is almost impossible today. You don't even know what that refers to! Yer a little nibbler like gnat.
You'll get there one day leg.
I still remembering you commenting on Isle Royale on CF. Your comments were so back asswards it was comical. Since those forced dropped wolves have passed or most have they had to force drop more. I remember you claiming how the Moose herd would be stronger when all empirical evidence is that finite large deer herds can be decimated by just two packs in a short number of years.
Do some work on yer own. Group think is for Liberal citidiots.
It really looks like Brody has been ready my wolf posts for last 3 yrs.
Save yerself NAP
Non Airborne Personnel.
Don't worry leg , you keep up with this Ranger you may get to go where I'm going when I hang up my jungle boots.
Pat, are you following this? C'mon man!