Beauprez opinion piece on wolves
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Good opinion piece in the Denver Post today by former CO Rep. Bob Beauprez.
Yep, I approve of that message. Well stated.
So.......George Soros funded huh? Imagine that. I am not in the least bit shocked. Too predictable. Wouldn't shock me in the slightest if he's sending money's to the BHA, NWF, and all their affiats.
"One of BHA’s largest funding sources is the Western Conservation Foundation (WCF), which in 2011 and 2012 donated $278,423 to BHA. WCF has given to other known far-left radical groups including Earth Justice and the Tides Foundation."
Birds of a feather....
Scroll down to the comments to see the kind of rationale that we are up against. I mean you can’t make this stuff up. She literally correlates more wolves to less elk, therefore reducing climate change and improving soil conditions?
Heather6365 I am all for wolves coming back. They are very important to our eco system. For 1, When wolves disappeared from Yellowstone, coyotes preyed on pronghorn almost to the point of no return. But since wolves have returned, the pronghorn have come back. In fact, pronghorns tend to give birth near wolf dens, since coyotes steer clear of those areas. 2nd reason,,chronic wasting disease is a major threat to elk and deer in the West. Wolves can help by reducing sick animals’ lifespans, in turn limiting the amount of time they can spread infections. 3rd reason, Wolves help protect against climate change. A 2005 UC Berkeley study in Yellowstone concluded that milder winters, a product of climate change, have led to fewer elk deaths. This left scavengers like coyotes and ravens scrambling for food, but the problem was far less pervasive in areas where wolves were around to hunt elk. 4th, Wolf kills are also good for the soil. A 2009 study in Michigan’s Isle Royale National Park found that wolf-killed elk carcasses dramatically enhanced levels of nitrogen and other nutrients. The idiot that wrote this artice is exactly what he is, a selfish idiot that should do his research before he sits down and writes garbage. I will definitely be out voting PRO WOLF!!!!!
But, but, but, fellow hunters tell us that the funding is irrelevant. That party politics are irrelevant. That the problem is with the people who connect the dots.
The dang problem is with any hunter or hunting group who isn't openly opposed to wolves being allowed to repeat expansion efforts in Colorado.
fishnride. I read that and commented to her that there are no elk on Isle Royale island in Lake Superior.. Also, the wolf population was recently numbers at two, for lack of prey, disease, competition between packs, packs ended up killing competitive pack individuals. Now there is talk about reintroducing more wolves into that closed system.
Edit - this was my comment on the Denver Post online: "Climate changists lecture us about how we must believe the scientists, blindly and unquestioningly. Ok. The scientists and professional biologists from US Fish and Wildlife and Colorado Parks and Wildlife have determined that Colorado's ecosystem is too fragmented and populous for wolf forcing. Natural migration, yes. Dumping of truckloads, no.
So we are to believe the scientists unless their determination disagrees with our Disneyesque worldview? Typical liberal groupthink. Sure, let's ignore science and let Front Range soccer moms, golf dads, mall chicks, and ponytailed brew pubbers make critical, irreversible decisions about our wildlife. Great idea."
I think I have been telling the same story on who is funding Wolves Worldwide. Jeez Jaq I'm seeing some Woke stuff in your piece here! To stop this you'll need lots of $ and a groundswell at the local levels. Get Wolves International out of your Front Range schools!!!! Get their interactive Wolf based "fluffy puppy" tutorials off your kids school computers.
The Climate Hoaxer's are dug in very deeply from the school unions to their funding sources. This Wolf Hoax is a very central theme for the Hoaxers. This is how they grab little chunks of society and determine what's "normal or accepted socially". Often its rabidly anti to what most people call excepted.
The Wolf is just one tool in the kit bag for these Hoaxer's, Globalists and One worlder's. The Science of the Wolf is what the Hoax makes it out to be to fit that narrative. Not unlike the politics of today.
The northern Scandinavian countries and North of Poland has gone thru this Wolf Madness as well. Was very easy for the Socialists to give the green light for mass Wolf Introductions. Think you can run your Wolf Hound over there?? Think again.
K~
The real story is in the comments below the story. And I thought New Jersey was bad. Well, at least you still have nice views out there...
What a weird world we live in, reading the comments in the DP reminds me of how widespread mental illness really is.
Ground zero for the first load of wolves trucked into Colorado - - - drum roll - - - Boulder! Congratulations - - - you get what you asked for.
I dislike those who want to do something 'eco', but always in someone else's back yard.
I should not have read the comments. Far too many drinking wolf pee koolaid.
The Loony Climateer's have no issue with losing a few humans to the new world super predators. Think all of them need to do mandatory Naked and Afraid and then come back and tell us how the world is dying and to hot.
K~
The Post just called and said they will publish my reply as an op-ed piece. I'm sure it will be swamped by the wolfies, though.
I hope you have Nomex underwear Lou. You are going to get flamed. Good luck!
Beauprez made really solid points. He also consistently brought in emotion. It seems to me that emotions win over people's hearts/minds. Logic falls short.
Lou I REALLY like you post comment....forward it it simpletons who call themselves hunters but think wolves are cool
A couple illiterate libs tried to flame my comments online but I shot flaming arrows up their asses and they went away. Thing is, they can't pick and choose which "science" to believe, because they tell us this over and over and over.
As you well know hypocrisy is deep in the DNA of a lib soo deep and they violate it so deeply and often I came up with a new word Libocrisy....tying the word hypocrisy to libs is unfair to a word like hypocrisy
Laws need to be enacted to only permit people in each 'district' to gather signatures to get ballots on initiatives within their OWN DISTRICT, not one outside of their own. The east slopers should have not have any power to vote on proposals in western regions of their respective state, and vice versa. The I-25ers should only be voting to release wolves in Boulder, Fort Collins, Denver, Colorado Springs. Not Gunnison, Salida, Delores, Telluride, Crested Butte, or anywhere outside their own jurisdictions, period. Who can gather enough signatures to get THIS proposal on a ballot initiative? Something to consider. Any possibility this could ever happen? It should be mandatory in every state, You want wolves, put them in your OWN backyard. The NIMBY principle has been a problematic environmental issue since the 60s.
An awful lot of problems relating to the environmental policy would be solved if the cities (primarily libs) could only vote for policy within their own districts, and not for the whole state's. NYC, Seattle, Portland, SF, DENVER, etc., etc., would have no influence over the rest of their states' voters, outside of their own. Why should concentrations of people in an area far removed from other rural areas have any say in those regions policies? None of this BS makes any sense.
Trapper is dead right....there is talk of compensation for wolf impact in $$$$$ seems the idea is dead sheep and wolves and such. I wonder is the guide association or rural towns that count on hunting could zap them with a compensation lawsuit
I use to think years ago that voter initiative that some states have was a good thing. Not the case, at least not any more. I saw the back and forth in WA State with this over and over. Just wasting $ on ballot initiatives going one way then next election or special election going the opposite way. Just a waste. When your dealing with general population that's way outta touch like say a Portland. How can you ever have sane Voter Initiative Ballot measures? Signature collection can almost never be verified or the bar is so low for valid signatures it's crazy. You sure would never get enough verified signatures by county or congressional district in states that are politically divided by region like OR, WA, CO. Not sure what the answer is. Prolly best thing CO can do now is to have a period of long term study of impact of migrating wolves before anything is done. Get wildlife issues back in hands of the experts and out of the ballot box of a politically divided state.
K~
The EVP of HSUS detailed to me the strategy they plan to use when they put bowhunting on the ballot in a referendum state. They just haven't decided which state would be most vulnerable.. Yet..
Groups like that keep pushing us toward the edge of the cliff, we are going to resist before we go over, and there will be a very substantial revolution which we will win - WE have the weapons. Its going to come to blows one day...
Yes Jaq Just follow the money. All roads lead to CA. The overwhelmingly population numbers in south is why they will try there first. It's not talked about much here but the NRA is key even for bow hunting rights.
States that have leaned forward in the foxholes for hunting rights are the ones that have GOP majorities for the most part. They, work on hunting rights issues for a while. They have really done well in those states to secure hunting rights for generations to come. How they have done this: The state legislatures put froward measures to amend the state constitutions in a bill to read "hunting is an inheirent right of all citizens of the state". Then, it was voted on and moved to Gov desk and signed. So, to remove or amend the constitution to remove this would take Super Majorities in both houses and a Gov signature. These measures have really taken the efforts of ASPCA, HSUS, Greenpeace, and big Tech money out these states for anti hunting and anti gun measures.
Funny how things down come full circle. BLOOMBERG came to Tennessee 12 or so years ago with anti second amendment rally and stirred all kinds of folks up in Nashville got his money passed around and shutdown the Nashville Gun Show. This opened up the State legislatures eyes. Then, on Nov 2nd 2010 the state passed "the right to hunt" constitution amendment. It took alot work, lots of good folks, and money but we got it done. These are things states like CO should work on at the grass root level. It worked very well in Tenn.
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Liberal democrats. Been really showing their true colors the last few years. The hypocrisy in full view, unabashed. From weapons grade..... um, uninformed.... to outright knowing lies and evil.
If it weren't for double standards...... they'd have no standards at all.
Good article Lou.
This went from wolves, to civil war, to over 1/2 of all Americans are evil. It’s funny how “Fox News” delusional some people can be.
1/2 of all americans are not evil, they are mentally ill. I think half of those moved here when we legalized MJ. They are living without a van, down by the river and don't want a job.
Also really funny how "CNN" delusional" many people can be. But the compassionate side of me attributes that delusion to Trump Derangement Syndrome, a sickness that should subside within five years.
Ks, if you read the comments beneath the aforementioned article, anyone against wolf forcing is immediately attacked with a slew of anti-Trump insults, as if Trump has anything to do with the wolf issue. But thats the sickness our society must deal with.
He does not have anything to do with Wolf issues YET.
The TDS will last about 9 more years at least. Either with DJTs third term or Jrs next two.
Jr got a rousing “46,46,46” at last rally he attended! Sis maybe his running mate. Platform: “No more Swamp Wolves” ;) K~
I agree Lou. Liberals like to group their opposition into the Fox News crowd. Totally ignorant to the reality that aside from a journalist show, fox news people tend to degrade this president as hard as any CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, etc... news Journalist. Th only difference in Fox and the rest of these networks is that in their general news reporting, those that like Trump, never highlight it when reporting the news. Can't say that for the liberal channels where a story of this president eating two ice cream scoops versus Obama's one, turned into a discussion proving Trump's narcissism in their eyes.
Justin- notice I said “some people” inferring some here. Your statement “Liberals like to group their opposition into the Fox News crowd.” That’s quite a leap. Who’s generalizing more? Your statement is an oxymoron in hypocrisy.
The article in the OP is a little over the top with statements like “cunning, vicious apex predators” or “feasting on the abundant wildlife” or “decimated cattle and sheep herds” or “chilling howl of a wolf.”
There are legit reason why this wolf by ballot is a bad idea. CO state biologists don’t agree with wolf reintroduction. Their argument should be your best arguments as to why to oppose it. Once the emotions get in the words then it’s easy to discount as bias emotional opinion. IMHO.
Ryan, I couldn't agree more. The guy who wrote the article was correct in everything he said. However, he lost a percentage of the middle of the road group due to revealing his personal bias. If you look at my second post, you'll see I already said that by agreeing with Curt.
I over looked the some people comment. What I didn't over look in that post was how you tried to suggest it was a problem associated with fox news. No hypocrisy there. Because I've yet to meet a liberal person on social media or in person who doesn't eventually claim the right is wrong and misguided due to being a viewer of fox news.
The truly uninformed or misinformed (aka, brainwashed to some degree in many cases) are more likely to be those that listen to or watch anything BUT Fox News. Can you (or Any educated and intelligent person) honestly put any stock in the likes of a Rachael Maddow's or similar (e.g. Adam Shifferbranes or Jerry Nadless) blathering lies as compared to the proven truths that Fox reports? Now I know we are in for a real battle when I see that garbage polluting the minds of our kind.. Wow! For real, I mean it. We need to get ohr collective acts together and win again in 20. And this means beat the politics of misguided wildlife propagations too. Yes, Jr. as an encore, absolutely!!!
Fox's rating are so high exactly because the Loony Left watches. They cant help it. When they want to see what just happened in the world without a slant, they pop on FoX. FoX is as full of chit as any other network prolly, except MSDNC.
If you want to fix the Super Wolf debate and action plan realistically! It would be to delay, sue and delay some more. Then, ask for a long term EIS until DTJr is in Office. He can just write and exec order and be done with it.
Winning back the state legislature would help. Get some good solid CO folks to run on the Front Range. Get Boulder Hippies, Snowflakes, Leaf Lickerz, and Hemp Huggerz off the ballots or voted out. Heck, 80% of Boulder area is from somewhere like CT, MA, VT or CA.
K~
Just love people "Fox News is nothing but lies" oh have you ever watched it...."Are you kidding me I would never that that trash"
My letter was the lead op-ed letter in the Sunday Post today. Two anti-wolf letters, one pro letter spouting the same tired talking points, balance of nature, blah, blah. That generally means the letters they didn't print were 2:1 against wolf forcing.
Prolly 20:1 Jaq
Hempers on fromt range looking for thier morning Hemp High.
Have the state use Dope revenue pay for the WEIS 5yr study on wolf migration.
K~
Jag. I search the Denver Post op ed and can not find your article. Paul
Paul, its the first letter on the op-ed page, beneath the editorial cartoon.
Post it here Jaq. Or maybe you did?
K
I looked up Opinion, Letters, etc, and I still can not find it. Maybe it is because I do not subscribe to the DP
Here you go:
"Climate changists lecture us about how we must believe the scientists, blindly and unquestioningly. Ok. The scientists and professional biologists from US Fish and Wildlife and Colorado Parks and Wildlife have determined that Colorado's ecosystem is too fragmented and populous for wolf forcing. Natural migration, yes. Dumping of truckloads, no.
So we are to believe the scientists unless their determination disagrees with our Disneyesque worldview? Sure, let's ignore science and let Front Range soccer moms, golf dads, mall chicks, and ponytailed brew pubbers make critical, irreversible decisions about our wildlife. Great idea."
I purposely stayed away from anything related to ranching, NAMWC, hunter dollars supportung conservation, etc.. I've learned that nonhunters eyes often glaze over when these topics are discussed. The other anti wolf letter was about thevunfairness of letting the Front Range makde decisions about the West Slope, while Front Range counties can ban fracking and energy development. So West Slope counties should be able to ban wolf forcing.
Boy the Snicklefit brotherhood on front range will be dropping in on ya soon.
That Blue Banjo pet food company going to put APB on you.... ;)
K’
