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Trip insurance
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Contributors to this thread:
BowmanMD 17-Feb-20
sticksender 17-Feb-20
JTreeman 17-Feb-20
Trial153 17-Feb-20
sticksender 17-Feb-20
Trial153 17-Feb-20
wkochevar 17-Feb-20
Bou'bound 17-Feb-20
Trial153 17-Feb-20
gobbler 17-Feb-20
BowmanMD 18-Feb-20
From: BowmanMD
17-Feb-20
Just wondering what you guys have used for trip insurance for your hunts. I have used Ripcord and Global Rescue on other trips, but they won't insure trips over $30k. With $40k+ tied into a sheep hunt, I'd hate to have a medical or family issue come up before the hunt that would prevent me from going and then I'm out the price of the hunt. Any suggestions?

From: sticksender
17-Feb-20
Travel Guard goes up to 150k

From: JTreeman
17-Feb-20
That’s an interesting take on it. I don’t see it working real well. Fist off the policies aren’t 30%. Second I’m guessing most outfitters on these big $ hunts need the hunt cost, not the premium you are paying if you back out. And third, and there is all kinds, but I just couldn’t trust most outfitters to pay me back the hunt cost if you break a leg a week out. These are all reasons it’s underwritten by a 3rd party insurance company.

For me, I hate insurance, I don’t buy any more than I absolutely have to. I have bought hunts that would be extremely painful to loose the $, but nothing that would bankrupt me or put me in a horrible place financially. If I can afford the hunt then I should be able to afford not going on it too. But obviously we all have different risk tolerances. My mom for example just bought trip insurance for our family to go to Europe this summer. All off us cost less than a sheep hunt, but she worries about stuff like that. I don’t....

—Jim

From: Trial153
17-Feb-20
Whats travel guard run about per 10k insured?

From: sticksender
17-Feb-20
Last time I had it on a big trip was 2015. Cost then was about $400 per each 10k. You'd really need to get a current quote though. I believe part of the cost is based on your home state, where exactly you're going, and how far in advance you buy the policy.

From: Trial153
17-Feb-20
That’s not bad all thing considering, I am interested in reading a policy over. I think I will ask for a quote

From: wkochevar
17-Feb-20
Trip insurance is fine but most reputable outfitters would re-book you if it was a valid reason for delaying a year or so without additional fees....so in that case , it's not like you'd lose anything but time.

From: Bou'bound
17-Feb-20
I would not bet on that or expect them to. What a reputable outfitter would do is be VERY CLEAR up front on the terms and conditions. To insinuate that someone would not be reputable if they would not allow a free re-book on a missed trip in a given year is probably a bit unfair. They have "X" number of slots a year to derive income from. It's their job and how they feed their family. Giving one of those slots away with no penalty would be a total gift and well beyond what anyone should have a right to expect.

Remember on the insurance you don't need to insure the total cost you can insure what you are uncomfortable with. Maybe the first deposit that is a couple years out. As things get closer in and other payments are being made there is less risk in a conflict and you may choose not to increase the coverage to cover that. At no point would you need to insure more money than you have outstanding anyway and that is normally not 100% of the hunt and if it is it is not 100% until just before the departure. Sometimes you may be fine self insuring a portion of the hunt, but don't want to be on the hook for the whole thing so just insure what you want.

From: Trial153
17-Feb-20
I think everything is circumstantial. That said one thing that isn’t is that fact that insurance will use every loop hole they can on a policy to not pay out or pay out in reduced amount. I would probably have the policy looked over and dissected by an expert before agreeing to it. I agree that the first recourse should be with the outfitter always, there maybe a mutually agreeable Solution.

From: gobbler
17-Feb-20
I went with travel guard for a brown bear hunt in May. It’s a decent policy. My outfitter recommended trip insurance ( not specific company). Last spring he had a hunter get sick on 2nd day of a 12 day hunt and had to go to hospital and miss his hunt

From: BowmanMD
18-Feb-20
Thanks for the replies. I called and got quotes from both TravelGuard and RipCord. For those who are curious, here is the cost for me and my 15yo son (non-hunting companion).

TravelGuard $2,600 covers trip cost up to $55k, no medical evacuation.

RipCord $1,600 covers trip cost up to $30k only, but includes medical evacuation for both me and my son as well as: • Trip cancellation and interruption for unforeseen reasons listed on the policy • Up to $100,000 of primary medical expense coverage per person, emergency dental, baggage loss, and trip delay coverage • Medical evacuation and rescue services from point of injury or illness to a traveler’s home hospital of choice • 24-7 access to travel assistance services.

I think I am going to go with Ripcord, mainly for the medical evacuation coverage. Not cheap, but still not crazy expensive considering what it covers.

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