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KY EyeBow 26-Feb-20
Looking at buying the Ultra Axius which is 34 in axel to axel ,my draw is 29 1/2 which would require a #2 cam ,the pro shop owner is trying to talk me into the Alpha Axius which is 29 1/2 axel to axle but has the #3 cam for 29 1/2 ,he says the #2 cam is junk not even close to the #3,of course he doesn't have the #2 to try ,has anyone tried the # 2 and is it different then the #3
To be frank I might consider finding a new pro-shop if your guy says one cam is "junk" compared to the other. Insisting that you switch bow models so you can get a different cam number doesn't really make a lot of sense.There is a great discussion on the various new Hoyts over on AT by member ontarget7. Might be worth a read if you get a chance, here.
Thanks Sticksender did check out AT,the problem the next closest shop is 120 miles away and doesn't have what I want in stock,and I have delt with this guy for 40 years,just cant believe that Hoyt would put out 2 different cams that are that different.He will order what I want if I put a down payment on it.Would just like to find out if there really is that much difference
Did he tell you exactly why the 2 cam is junk? Because it sounds to me like he just wants you to buy what he has in stock.
Best answer is shoot both and see if you can tell any difference, which IMO is unlikely. There might be a subtle difference in speed performance at the same DL. The 2 different cams accommodate the two different draw length ranges but all cams are the same ZTR cam design. One reason I suggested the AT article is because they discuss using a cam that is out of your DL range, but still getting your desired DL via cabling adjustment. This might be workable since your 29.5" draw is only 1/2" out-of-range. (Ultra #3 cam @ 30"-32", and #2 cam @ 27"-30"). But I suspect that if you try shooting both cams at 30" you might find it's not worth bothering with.
Shooting at the upper end of a cam is going to deliver the most efficiency. The #3 cam will typically be smoother than the #2 but Hoyt's #2 cams are normally the fastest all other things being equal. Bottom line....get the bow you like best in whatever cam that fits you and consider another pro shop.
From: KY EyeBow
FWIW, I bought a 2016 Hoyt Defiant 34 with #2 cam a few years ago off AT and ,after the fact, found that "the #2 cam is known to be very difficult to tune". I do not profess to be good at tuning my bows but it always has been a bit finicky. Not being an engineer, I don't understand why one size cam would have inherent problems when the other sizes wouldn't................. Anyway, that might give you a little history. Maybe the first pro shop guy is still remembering the #2 DFX cam?? Good luck finding the right bow for you but would definitely suggest you shoot both cams to see if you can tell any difference.
With your draw length you'll want the 34 inch ultra. As far as the cams I think he wants to move his in stock inventory rather than get a customer what they need/want.
Difference in the cams is #2 cam covers 27-30 in. draw , #3 cam covers 30-32 in.draw , there is really no difference in the cams except to accommodate different draw lengths. A#3 cam will be a little bit bigger.
Hoyt did have issues with their 2 cams awhile back. Think there was even an updated cam to help with the problems.
At 29.5 draw you’re gonna be happiest with the 34.
Thanks for the advice going to shoot the ultra today found a shop its 120 miles away but does have the Axius ultra with the #2 cam