Black Gold Sights
Plasma Lighters
Elk
Contributors to this thread:
Aspen Ghost 29-Feb-20
fubar racin 29-Feb-20
jstephens61 29-Feb-20
Scrappy 01-Mar-20
Bloodtrail 01-Mar-20
Tdvorak 01-Mar-20
Bou'bound 01-Mar-20
BullBuster 01-Mar-20
goelk 01-Mar-20
goelk 01-Mar-20
Scooby-doo 01-Mar-20
Aspen Ghost 01-Mar-20
tradi-doerr 01-Mar-20
Jaquomo 01-Mar-20
Surfbow 01-Mar-20
elkmtngear 01-Mar-20
jstephens61 01-Mar-20
Norseman 01-Mar-20
Mule Power 01-Mar-20
cnelk 01-Mar-20
Ambush 01-Mar-20
elkmtngear 01-Mar-20
PECO 01-Mar-20
Jaquomo 01-Mar-20
Ambush 01-Mar-20
tradi-doerr 01-Mar-20
t-roy 01-Mar-20
PECO 02-Mar-20
Trial153 02-Mar-20
DanaC 02-Mar-20
Fuzzy 02-Mar-20
BTM 02-Mar-20
elkocd 02-Mar-20
Mule Power 02-Mar-20
TD 02-Mar-20
Two Feathers 02-Mar-20
PREZ 02-Mar-20
Mule Power 02-Mar-20
SmokedTrout 02-Mar-20
MTNRCHR 02-Mar-20
lawdy 02-Mar-20
Fuzzy 03-Mar-20
TD 03-Mar-20
Fuzzy 03-Mar-20
Fuzzy 03-Mar-20
Fuzzy 03-Mar-20
Fuzzy 04-Mar-20
PECO 04-Mar-20
StickFlicker 04-Mar-20
APauls 04-Mar-20
From: Aspen Ghost
29-Feb-20
So after I use my InReach to call my insurance company for a Medevac I figure I might want to start a small fire to stay warm while I wait for my ride.

Have any of you any experience with these fancy Plasma Lighters? Do they work any better than butane lighters or matches for starting an emergency fire in the mountains?

I figure the offseason is a good time to evaluate what I carry in the elk woods.

From: fubar racin
29-Feb-20
I wasn’t as impressed with my plasma lighter as I thought I would be but it was better than a bic. I prefer one of those wind proof lighters

From: jstephens61
29-Feb-20
I’ll stick with my magnesium fire starter. Never have to worry about fuel for a lighter.

From: Scrappy
01-Mar-20

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On the same subject of fire, does anyone have any experience with this?

From: Bloodtrail
01-Mar-20
I’ve tried the Pyro. It works just perfect. It’s very similar to taking a cotton ball and mixing in Vasoline. Then just spread it out and hit it with a spark. It lights up quick and hot. I also keep a Bic lighter in my pack.

From: Tdvorak
01-Mar-20
Great question Aspen. How long until a bunch of the purist elite on the site start getting on their abnormal soap boxes saying “a real hunter only uses steel and flint” or “who in the world would ever use anything but a zippo?” or “its getting where a normal working class guy can’t even afford to light a fire anymore.” Haha. If they start attacking you keep in mind that most of us are reasonable. Good question. Thumbs high.

From: Bou'bound
01-Mar-20
Now that was a good one. Love it.

From: BullBuster
01-Mar-20
Tdvorak FUNNY!

From: goelk
01-Mar-20
i have a tekfire fuel free lighter that i like plus matches for backup

From: goelk
01-Mar-20
i must have miss but what happen Aspen Ghost

From: Scooby-doo
01-Mar-20
The putty is awesome and a windproof torch type lighter is very nice. Mine is waterproof as well. Shawn

From: Aspen Ghost
01-Mar-20
Goelk, nothing happened. The threads about carrying an InReach and having Medevac insurance got me to thinking about how prepared I was when out in the elk woods. I had seen some of these plasma lighters and wondered if they were any better or worse than other ways of starting a fire.

From: tradi-doerr
01-Mar-20
I had ordered the plasma lighter and pyro-putty when I ordered my phone skope. I used the plasma lighter along with the putty last season and it worked great, fast and easy to use, I'm sure it would work well with slightly damp material as well, I also keep a couple of other fire starting tools with me as well, magnesium-starter, Bic lighter. And if I'm feeling really traditional I'll use/attempt to use my bow/drill fire starter,LOL. Find what works and your confident in using and us it.

From: Jaquomo
01-Mar-20
I carry a live coal everywhere in my possibles bag. It's traditional.

Seriously, I also have a plasma lighter and its pretty cool but I've never had to use it under duress. I also carry a Bic, waterproof matches, and a mag stick, as well as vaseline-coated cotton balls, dryer lint, steel wool, duct tape (great fire starter) and a couple chunks of longer burning fireplace starter as part of my "go everywhere" survival kit. I know, I'm a pussy...

From: Surfbow
01-Mar-20
Yeah, I carried a magnesium stick once, and during a windy blizzard (in a non-life threatening situation) thought I'd tuck up under a tree and try it out, just to see how awesome I could be. Well, that was stupid, I would have frozen to death. The mag stick stays at home now, replaced by a bic lighter, a windproof lighter, waterproof matches, and a couple firestarter sticks. The guys carrying leather purses can keep the magnesium starters...

From: elkmtngear
01-Mar-20

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Fluffed out tampons, and a magnesium striker have worked great in the worst conditions.

This was one of them...pretty miserable day, right before another September snowstorm. My leather Gucci purse (for my tampons, of course), is not in the picture, lol !

From: jstephens61
01-Mar-20
I’m assuming new tampons?

From: Norseman
01-Mar-20
Fire Good

From: Mule Power
01-Mar-20
Jstephens you’ve never tried used during the rut? Priceless

From: cnelk
01-Mar-20
I just wait for lightning to strike. Can’t get anymore primitive than that.

From: Ambush
01-Mar-20
Are tampons for manginas different than the traditional feminine ones? Are they available in manly colors like Steel, Silver Bullet, Hot Asphalt etc..

From: elkmtngear
01-Mar-20
Speaking of "Manpons"...I see Pete Buttigieg just "pulled out" of the Presidential race!

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program...

From: PECO
01-Mar-20
Bic lighter and one of those trick birthday candles. Light the candle and it is windproof. I do not carry manpons in my murse.

From: Jaquomo
01-Mar-20
Sitka's new line of manpons for the fall collection are the most durable and comfortable on the market, in all the trademark Sitka camo patterns. Three way stretch, super absorbent, impregnated with polygene for scent control. Definitely worth the three- pack price of $99!

From: Ambush
01-Mar-20
^^ ahh yes, but are they a "Game Changer!" making last years manpons obsolete!?

From: tradi-doerr
01-Mar-20
It appears that there some that are very bored, cabin fever is starting to really set in.

From: t-roy
01-Mar-20
I’m thinking of trying one of those Gwyneth Paltrow “Vagina” candles........but only during the rut, though. There will probably be some Vasoline involved as well. Not sure about cotton balls.

From: PECO
02-Mar-20
"Gwyneth Paltrow “Vagina” candles........but only during the rut"

Outstanding! Brilliant! Hilarious!

From: Trial153
02-Mar-20
Pyro putty is great stuff, good company too....same guys as phone scope. It’s easy to use, packs easy and goes along way...order right from pyro putty or on amazon. We did reviews for it on rokslide

From: DanaC
02-Mar-20
Google 'lifeboat matches' and carry a container of them. Also, you can buy a 5-pack of cheap lighters and stash them in your kit so one is always handy. Even if 4 fail you're still good to go. Whatever you choose, have a back-up.

From: Fuzzy
02-Mar-20
a real hunter only uses steel and flint, who in the world would ever use anything but a zippo? its getting where a normal working class guy can’t even afford to light a fire anymore.

From: BTM
02-Mar-20
Amen on having backups. Whether it's guns, hard drives, flashlights, etc., the old adage applies: "Two is one, one is none."

From: elkocd
02-Mar-20
I tried Pyro putty and the plasma lighter this year in CO. was NOT impressed with either in wet/snowy conditions. Worked, but not great. I also had some of those water proof matches and cheap backpacking tinder wads which I ended up using instead because they just worked better. I will carry the plasma lighter as a backup source, but probably would't buy more pyro putty.

From: Mule Power
02-Mar-20
Never heard of Pyro Putty. Ordered some from Amazon last night after reading this thread. The videos looked like it worked really well. I bought the blue which is supposed to stay pliable in lower temps.

From: TD
02-Mar-20
PITA for lighting a cigar. One step over lighting it with a vaseline covered tampon......

If it won't light a cigar...... have no use for it.

A few (very) random thoughts.... There are people that can make a competition out of blowing your nose.... Multiple sources/options are awesome with pretty much anything I can think of. A wet bic can be near as bad as wet matches. If your main source is a mag sparkler you don't light very many fires in a day..... Found nothing that beats a good quality triple or quad torch. Especially for cigars. Greasy tampons don't solder very well even in a pinch.....

From: Two Feathers
02-Mar-20
Great, now I have another use for my tampons.

From: PREZ
02-Mar-20
Doritos work great.

From: Mule Power
02-Mar-20
I searched for the dead pines with the red needles still on them. There’s always one around. That stuff is as good or better than any fire starter. If I’m burning damp wood I’ll add a little on top every once in awhile to flare things up.

From: SmokedTrout
02-Mar-20
t-roy for the win! But he didn't say how he'd get it lit. Are those things self lighting?

From: MTNRCHR
02-Mar-20
Doritos ARE great as long as Im in a survival situation BEFORE lunch time!

From: lawdy
02-Mar-20
I carry matches and a magnesium starter. I also have a plastic baggie with Canadian fire starters. I usually build a fire every time I hare hunt. Boil up some tea, and share some sausage or hot dogs with the hound. Every winter, I and my granddaughter go out in a heavy snowstorm in the dark and have a cookout. She traps with me and it is good practice for when she traps alone. She is 13, and becoming a hell of a trapper/hunter.

From: Fuzzy
03-Mar-20
lawdy that's great! teach them young <3

From: TD
03-Mar-20
Fuzzy.... I finally had to look up that "<3" thang the other day, been seeing it everywhere lately.... OK, means "heart", now I see it. All I saw before was cleavage (which could be taken similarly)...... was looking at it from the other end.... happens a lot....

From: Fuzzy
03-Mar-20
hey some folks prefer the cleavage on the other end. I don't judge 8>

From: Fuzzy
03-Mar-20
while we are on this subject, seemed every store in Anchorage and Kodiak had these awesome waterproof matches in a little clear screw top plastic vial. I wish I'd bought a dozen to bring home. I used them all up lighting my smokes in the wind on Kodiak

From: Fuzzy
03-Mar-20
https://www.rei.com/product/842366/uco-survival-matches?CAWELAID=120217890000867573&cm_mmc=PLA_Google&product_id=8423660001&ad_type=pla&channel=online&partition_id=514211650967&target_id=pla-514211650967&brand_flag=&adgroup_id=15877490680&campaign_id=180122080&location_physical=9008459&cid=53280440200&network=g&network_type=search&device_type=c&merchant_id=1209243&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2JOq4on_5wIVBLbICh1peQxvEAQYBiABEgJGofD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

From: Fuzzy
04-Mar-20
thanks for this thread. I ordered three vials of the survival matches from REI. They are priced higher than Wally World in Anchorage but that's a long way to drive to buy matches. LOL

From: PECO
04-Mar-20
<3 is heart, ( . )( . ) is cleavage.

From: StickFlicker
04-Mar-20
I just won the pyro lighter and putty on another site, looking forward to checking them out.

From: APauls
04-Mar-20
So for those that want to carry blocks or something to light why wouldn’t you just carry some ZIP blocks or similar that are used for lighting charcoal? Those things burn forever and weight nothing. Throw a few in a ziplock and call it done. I’ve never felt the need cause I carry my small burner with my and if need be I could use that to light a fire.

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