Courage in N.Y.
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Contributors to this thread:
LKH 20-Mar-20
HH 20-Mar-20
Guardian hunter 20-Mar-20
KSflatlander 20-Mar-20
ground hunter 20-Mar-20
Trial153 20-Mar-20
Busta'Ribs 20-Mar-20
keepemsharp 20-Mar-20
Trial153 20-Mar-20
GF 20-Mar-20
Patdel 20-Mar-20
Spiral Horn 21-Mar-20
Bou'bound 21-Mar-20
Scooby-doo 21-Mar-20
Will 21-Mar-20
kakiat kid 21-Mar-20
Trial153 21-Mar-20
Pat Lefemine 21-Mar-20
Trial153 21-Mar-20
BOHUNTER09 21-Mar-20
altitude sick 21-Mar-20
Fuzzy 23-Mar-20
Fuzzy 24-Mar-20
Rut Nut 24-Mar-20
nowheels 24-Mar-20
LKH 24-Mar-20
Deertick 24-Mar-20
jdee 24-Mar-20
Shawn 25-Mar-20
Busta'Ribs 25-Mar-20
Fuzzy 25-Mar-20
Pat Lefemine 26-Mar-20
RK 26-Mar-20
IdyllwildArcher 26-Mar-20
Busta'Ribs 26-Mar-20
Trial153 26-Mar-20
wilhille 26-Mar-20
JL 26-Mar-20
Deerslayer37 26-Mar-20
goelk 26-Mar-20
Will 26-Mar-20
WV Mountaineer 26-Mar-20
Coyote 65 26-Mar-20
Busta'Ribs 26-Mar-20
Busta'Ribs 26-Mar-20
Trial153 26-Mar-20
KSflatlander 26-Mar-20
elkmtngear 26-Mar-20
Will 26-Mar-20
Trial153 26-Mar-20
WV Mountaineer 26-Mar-20
IdyllwildArcher 27-Mar-20
midwest 27-Mar-20
Rut Nut 27-Mar-20
Busta'Ribs 27-Mar-20
Deertick 27-Mar-20
Trial153 27-Mar-20
Al Dente Laptop 27-Mar-20
KSflatlander 27-Mar-20
Rut Nut 27-Mar-20
Bake 27-Mar-20
IdyllwildArcher 27-Mar-20
Busta'Ribs 28-Mar-20
From: LKH
20-Mar-20
More than 2,000 retired medical personnel have volunteered to come back to work in New York to help in the Covid-19 crisis. It takes a lot of guts to do so knowing you are in the group that faces the highest risk of mortality. Our prayers should be with them.

From: HH
20-Mar-20
They will reach out for more publically soon.

Fare the well.

K~

20-Mar-20
Character is defined in times of power and crisis. This shows some great character

From: KSflatlander
20-Mar-20
Ordinary people doing extraordinary things. Everyday heroes

20-Mar-20
KS+1

From: Trial153
20-Mar-20
Good people for sure. We need all the hands we can get at this point. Things got western by me this past week and i cant see it letting up anytime soon. Been working pretty much non stop since last sunday. At this point there is a enough holes that you can plug yourself in 24/7

From: Busta'Ribs
20-Mar-20
This is going to get worse before it gets better, and it will take the best of us to get us through the worst of it. God bless all of those that put themselves in harms way on purpose to help the cause.

From: keepemsharp
20-Mar-20
Trial? Don't get it.

From: Trial153
20-Mar-20
Its not an if but a when and how bad question. I pretty much resigned to that

From: GF
20-Mar-20
Mebbeso, but it’ll go a lot easier on EVERYBODY if the curve on the caseload is kept low & slow; that way, there’ll be adequate resources for those who get really sick, and maybe we’ll even get lucky and see the average person exposed being hit with a lighter “dose” of the little beggars...

It’s sorta like the kids at CU who trot Ralphie around the field after a touchdown; we may not be able to actually control this thing, but if we can slow it down a bit, and guide it a little, we may just make it around the field with getting stomped, and we’ll all be better off for it....

From: Patdel
20-Mar-20
This gives me hope.

From: Spiral Horn
21-Mar-20
Thanks for posting this topic Larry. Always lifts me up to see true courage and selflessness in action. What a powerful example.

From: Bou'bound
21-Mar-20
bless those who are blessing to others

From: Scooby-doo
21-Mar-20
I work in NY in a nursing home, we have had 8 residents tested for the virus. I have been at work everyday. My wife was tested for the virus on Friday so I am I am on self quarintine at home until we recieve her results. These health care workers on the front lines are all heroes, everyone of them are taking care of our loved ones when we can not!! I Thank everyone of them!! Shawn

From: Will
21-Mar-20
Amazing people to do that. My wife is on the front lines as a provider as well. It's scary as hell to see her walk out the door with scrubs on knowing she's had 1 N95 for days now.

People need to do the right thing for all of America, and humanity in general and stay in their house. This is going to be really really hard no matter how we get through it... But if we all support each other, by staying home, we can get ahead.

From: kakiat kid
21-Mar-20
Unfortunately I am going to get tested today. Cough and fever. I just hope to God that I didn't spread it to my mother and mother-in-law. Its can be a death sentence for the elderly...

From: Trial153
21-Mar-20
BJ, good luck and well wishes

From: Pat Lefemine
21-Mar-20
My son's buddy, who he shared a bottle with last week - tested positive. Now my son is in mandatory quarantine. Thank goodness he's living in an off-campus apartment. My father in law lives with us. He has COPD and can barely breath. He will be dead inside a week if he gets Covid-19. My thoughts and thanks go out to all of you who are on the front lines of this crap.

From: Trial153
21-Mar-20
Pat, good luck to you and your family.

From: BOHUNTER09
21-Mar-20
Pat. My thoughts are with you. My daughter is an ICU doctor on the west coast in the thick of it. She also has asthma so is especially concerned. Praying for all the caregivers

21-Mar-20
Nursing home workers and Nurses and doctors are the real heroes. A positive outcome from this is we turn away from artificial things and phony heroes. Actors and athletes

and realize who our real hero’s are.

From: Fuzzy
23-Mar-20
Praying for you all Pat

From: Fuzzy
24-Mar-20
looks like NYC and NY State aer getting hit hardest in the Country so far, anyone in the area please keep us posted how you are doing and what the situation looks like

From: Rut Nut
24-Mar-20
My wife and I have both been life-flighted to hospitals with life-threatening conditions. So we have the UTMOST RESPECT for ALL first responders! Prayers go out to all those in harm's way.

Been getting alerts from the Red Cross about blood shortages, so I stopped to give blood on the way home from work yesterday. As long as you are not sick and do not have a fever, they are taking blood donations. Just a small way you can "give back"...……………………….

From: nowheels
24-Mar-20
I talked to my sister a couple of hours ago. She is an ICU nurse at a small regional hospital. They have 25 icu beds and already have about 20 waiting with various issues. They currently only have 4 confirmed cases of Covid, but about 20 awaiting test results. It’s a bad situation, nurses are already exhausted and things are still heating up. Georgia crossed the 1000 “official” case number today.

Pray for the frontline workers!

From: LKH
24-Mar-20
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Before you go to this site I will warn you, it's depressing and very scary. You may have to click on things like country and then click on U.S, Canada or whatever you want to view.

We are already number 2 and should be in the lead within a couple weeks. A race I would just as soon we lost.

From: Deertick
24-Mar-20
Gee, I heard it was all a hoax and “it’s just the flu and it’ll be over by summer.” All the smatters people assured me.

In all seriousness, please be careful, and stay home. The early narrative of “Just the old” isn’t holding true. Like in any war, intel is sketchy in a kinetic environment. It’s like our guys in France in WWII thinking they were fighting a weakened enemy and instead finding out they were fighting armored SS. Dig in!

From: jdee
24-Mar-20
If truckers decide to be safe and stay home we’re all screwed !!

From: Shawn
25-Mar-20
My wife got her results back yesterday and she is negative!! I had to self quarintine with her and we are both fine. I work in Health Care and was cleared to return to work today. I live and work in the county with the second highest total of positive tests in NYS. It is pretty surreal, going out for the first time in a week I was amazed how pretty much everything looks abandoned. Other than grocers, liquor stores and a few food places doing deliveries or curbside pick up everything is closed. We have been instructed by Trinity Health our employer to prepare for things to get much worse in the next 10-14 days. It is hard to believe what is happening until you become part of it. Everyone, stay safe and please practice social distancing!! Shawn

From: Busta'Ribs
25-Mar-20
Good news Shawn. Stay safe!!!

From: Fuzzy
25-Mar-20
I see the trolls are active

From: Pat Lefemine
26-Mar-20
Good news Shawn. It is bad here in NY. My son has one more week of quarantine and so far he’s fine.

From: RK
26-Mar-20
Great to hear Shawn! Hang in there. Pat I pray your son remains well

Thanks to the front line!!

26-Mar-20
We're as ready as we can get up here in rural AK. We don't think we'll escape unscathed, but we're really happy that we at least had time to prepare unlike Italy and NYC.

Unfortunately, most of our Medical Staff live in the lower 48 and are not being allowed to come work without a 14 day quarantine first and so we're on bare bones for now. Working 7 days a week and it's only going to get worse once it finally makes it up here.

From: Busta'Ribs
26-Mar-20
Things are getting more serious in NYC area at this point. Roughly 50% of the nations cases are in NY. At least one health care worker has died from the virus now, one hospital alone had 13 deaths in one day, they're using refrigerated trucks to store dead bodies, running out of supplies (saw a pic of health care workers in hospital wearing trash bags for PPE), and the hospitals are nearing capacity. And the numbers just keep climbing. It's been alarming to me to see so many that think this has been overblown and that there is so much overreaction. Well, anybody out there that's still not taking this seriously should start paying attention to what's going on in NYC. It's not the flu. It's not going away when the weather gets warm. Obviously, densities in NYC are the highest in the country but no matter where you live, we all still need to take every precaution possible to stop the spread. Stay safe. Protect or Infect.

From: Trial153
26-Mar-20
I wouldnt say the wheels are flying off...i would say we are holding our own for now.

From: wilhille
26-Mar-20
Medical workers are working with as much courage, resilience, and determination as any person could. My hat is off to them! Thank you. My family thanks you. Our country thanks you. Heros for sure. People have been given a second chance because of you.

From: JL
26-Mar-20
Hats off to all the health care workers who are still fighting the good fight.

We're snowbirding at my brother's place here in FL. He works in a surgery center. One of the doctors there (young girl) came back from a cruise and went to work. My bro talked to her when she got back. She had to self-quarantine and get tested. Just found out she was negative. The bro is relieved....along with us.

One of my daughters back in MI is an RN. She is preggo with twins. They have some positive cases in her hospital. She works in ER but had to get moved to another wing in hopes of avoiding exposure. I do worry about her more so than us in FL. We'll pull thru this though....gotta keep the positive vibes going. Too much negativity in the media.

Speaking of FL.....there is growing resentment from the locals towards the NYC folks who are leaving to escape the city and coming down to FL. Some are bring the virus down with them. This was posted on our counties website yesterday. They provide the background on the positive cases.

"Mar. 25: A 53-year-old man who traveled from New York."

I was reading some of the comments on Yahoos news articles about the virus spread. There is growing resentment by many posters from across the country towards the NYC and NJ folks bailing out for other places. Here in FL, Broward and Dade Counties have a very high number of cases....the highest in the state. That is where many of the NYC/NJ folks head to or have family at.

From: Deerslayer37
26-Mar-20
Courage is being scared to death…and saddling up anyway.” – John Wayne

Working from home in western NY for the next 4 weeks. God bless the health care workers.

From: goelk
26-Mar-20
blessings and prayers for those helping

From: Will
26-Mar-20
My wife got a negative test result yesterday and will be back on the front lines Saturday. We scoured the internet and found a respirator that will work with a face shield at a woodworking store - looked at mining, welding and woodworking places. Our buddy who works for OSHA assures us the filter is actually better than N95 durability wise and the same to slightly better particle wise... So she's going to wear that when doing work on respiratory patients, thus saving other masks and shields for colleagues. So weird to have done that - "Hey, honey, lets get a respirator mask so you can work a little safer since the clinic has next to no PPE". We've concocted a strategy involving her changing clothes a few times (1x at work, 1x in our garage) so that she can put her work gear in the wash with minimal odds of any virus making it into our house. I probably will sleep in one of the kids rooms for a few months too.

Her work has been decimated so far. One colleague is in the ICU. Many are out awaiting tests or less sick than the one poor guy. It's to the point, that the clinic she works for, which has several sites (6-7), is down to 2 because they cant staff adequately.

This is here in MA. I'm just really crossing my fingers that she will be ok, and that the bug wont come home with her.

On a positive, they have concluded that they cant have any respiratory patients even enter the clinic (they are a really busy and intense urgent care, CT scan's, infusions, ultrasound all on site and they do a lot of intense stuff vs "ear aches and sniffles"). So they have providers with a medical go outside and see folks for any respiratory issues whatsoever. Kinda crazy. But a lot better than having a waiting room full of folks with all sorts of crazy stuff sharing space with a possible COVID patient!

Wild times. Those of you in areas with minimal infections... CLAMP IT DOWN and do the physical distancing. Put the brakes on this thing before it takes off. Then you can use testing to ID positives and quarantine strategically... Letting things operate more freely.

Those of us in the NE, PacNW, NO area, CA, FL, PA, NJ, etc... We just have to physical distance to the best of our ability and hope is stalls out a bit, that our efforts are rewarded.

26-Mar-20
Praying for the healthcare people on the front lines.

From: Coyote 65
26-Mar-20
Army has asked retirees in the healthcare MOS's if they would like to volunteer for service. Guess they don't need any old Huey crewchiefs.

Terry

From: Busta'Ribs
26-Mar-20
The attached clip speaks to what's happening in NYC right now, and then some. I have no idea what qualifies Bill Gates to comment on this, and Brian Williams can always be counted on to push the anti-Trump, fake-news bias. But when Dr. Michael Osterholm talks about COVID-19, I listen, and what he had to say just grabbed me by the throat and squeezed. I hope he's wrong.

From: Busta'Ribs
26-Mar-20

Busta'Ribs's Link
Sorry, here's the clip...

From: Trial153
26-Mar-20

Trial153's Link
Same gentleman

From: KSflatlander
26-Mar-20
Man, the worst is yet to come. Yikes! Back to work or relaxing social distancing by Easter...a terrible idea as per the Doc/expert in those videos. I can’t imagine our economy with a few more months of this.

From: elkmtngear
26-Mar-20
If it weren't for New York, the U.S. would be entering a flat curve for Coronavirus right now...they have almost half the cases in the entire Country.

They are in Hell right now, no doubt...but it needs to be contained there. I can imagine, people trying to flee the City like rats as we speak...can't say I blame them.

Hats off to those retirees, they are real American Heroes!

From: Will
26-Mar-20
Elk, new Orleans has the fastest growth rate of cases in the world... NY has most US cases... but it's a national issue for sure.

From: Trial153
26-Mar-20
John there are a lot of things over the top on every side of this thing right now. Pointing them out wasnt the intent of this thread.

In any event we lost a lot of lives today and we are seeing more and more provides getting ill, wont be long till we loose a few of them as well. Yet they keep showing up to do their job and help people. I think that postive thing we all can get behind

26-Mar-20
It takes a true person of grit to go to work knowing that it is likely a question of when and not if, on something so unknown. I've always been a guy that thought people outside the military, didn't deserve recognition for the work they get paid to do. But, I can only imagine what it feels like to go to work and care for these infected people in highly impacted areas. At some point, the wear and fatigue these workers are no doubt experiencing, has got to make them more susceptible to this virus. God be with 'em in the name of Jesus Christ.

27-Mar-20
To my fellow hunters, I know this will piss a few folks off and I know that because I've done this a few thousand times, but seriously, today is a great day to quit smoking. If you smoke and you come in to my ER with the S hitting the fan, I give out a sigh once I find out you smoke because I know my job is that much harder and your outcome that much more grim. Want a better chance to survive just about anything? Quit smoking. It's never too late to do the right thing.

Consider having a silver lining come of this with you healthier on the other side.

From: midwest
27-Mar-20
^^^ +1

From: Rut Nut
27-Mar-20
I live in the Poconos and lots of folks from NYC and northern NJ have vacation homes here. Lots of city folks are coming out here to the country during this "quarantine" period. Seems to be a lot of backlash. Can't really blame them, but our local officials are urging people to stay in NY/NJ and not potentially spread the virus. Even saw one of our local State Representatives on TV urging New Yorkers to stay away.

From: Busta'Ribs
27-Mar-20
elkmtngear, let me get this straight, you think that if we took NY out of the equation the US would be entering a "flat curve" right now? Dude, you are completely clueless and have no idea what you are talking about. It's scary reading the boards out there and seeing the scores of dumbfounded dipshits and the stuff they are posting about whats happening in our great country right now. Obviously, NY has the highest number of cases, but taking those cases away doesn't change the fact that the numbers continue to increase all across the country every day. Look what's going on in New Orleans now. If you think this is just a NY thing, buckle up, because this is coming soon to a city near you. Referring to the struggling folks in NYC, with what they are going through right now, as fleeing "rats" might be the most insensitive thing I've read since this mess has started. In my first post on thread I stated "it would take the best of us to get us through the worst of this". That's playing out right now in NY, right before our eyes. But the best of us also have to deal with the worst of us too during these difficult times.

From: Deertick
27-Mar-20
Modeling these things is not straightforward, of course, but you'd really have to make some wild assumptions to think we're "out of trouble". The virus was a Black Swan, and -- like they say -- "what comes around goes around" ... maybe a Black Swan like a treatment or vaccine will save us. But Black Swans are the definition of what not to bet on.

Idyll ... good point, re: smoking. Can't say that enough!

From: Trial153
27-Mar-20

Trial153's Link
Keep this young women in your thoughts please.

27-Mar-20
I am a Local 3 Electrician in NYC. I live in Nassau County, where it exploding. My job was closed Wednesday due to a tinknocker testing positive. If have had no contact with him, he was working on the 12th floor, and I have been on the roof for months. Just me, my partner and 3 falcons. The last 3 weeks saw a massive decrease in vehicles, pedestrians, commuters, and even homeless. I can say it reminded me of September 13th. Nothing is open, no one is around. My fellow tradesmen and I were deemed essential employees, so we had to continue to go to work. It was only a matter of time before my jobsite was affected, and with the infected rate doubling every 3 days, only a matter of time before every jobsite is closed. Please be safe, your families are depending on it. Prayers for all of us, especially those directly impacted by this. May god bless us all and those who are sick.

From: KSflatlander
27-Mar-20
Yes modeling does have assumptions from our best experts on the subjects. Consider the alternative is for politicians to guess and make stuff up as they go...like ending social distancing by Easter for example.

We have the best doctors/scientists and economists working on this together. Listen to them.

From: Rut Nut
27-Mar-20
I work in a healthcare facility in the Mid-Hudson Valley of NY about 50 miles north of NYC. Thank God it's not as bad here as in the NYC area! Getting updates by Skype meeting twice a week. Lastest update was this morning: 17 patients tested positive and 12 employees (up from 6 patients and 0 employees last week) Thankfully no deaths yet.

GREAT lengths are being taken with PPE and hand hygiene to limit spread. Only treating inpatients in our facility. All non-urgent outpt. treatment has stopped. No visitors allowed, and they are even limiting employees on the patient floors. Getting screened at the front gate daily.

I think everyone is taking reasonable precautions (advised by our Infectious Disease specialist) and most are remaining calm and going about their jobs. I think most of us realize working in a healthcare setting, we are exposed to more organisms than the general public. You take the precautions seriously, but realize you still may contract something. Just have to trust that living a healthy, active lifestyle will keep your immune system strong enough to fight off these nasty organisms!

From: Bake
27-Mar-20
Found this interesting.

My wife, mother, and sister-in-law work for a local hospital. The hospital asked the Nurse Practitioners to volunteer for extra training on ventilators. So they all volunteered, and at the training today, the respiratory guy teaching said that they're finding that the more a person is exposed, the more severe their symptoms.

So I guess that puts the healthcare workers at even more risk.

27-Mar-20
Most infections are like that. If you get exposed to 10 viruses at once vs getting exposed to a billion viruses, the billion get to work on you much quicker than 10 and your immune system has that much less time to mount a novel response to a new intruder.

From: Busta'Ribs
28-Mar-20
Looks like the NY/NJ/CT borders are gonna stay open after all.

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