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But that only applies to a select few

If there’s a silver-lining to this crap. It would be that this leads to Colorado cancel the nonresident elk hunting. ;)

That’s the problem is people not acknowledging all the no travel, social distancing, shelter in place guidelines! This virus isn’t spread by the deathly ill and sick people, it’s spread by the asymptotic people that won’t freaking listen!

You go to NE and you’ll stop at any amount of stores, gas station, etc. You could be bringing the virus there unknowingly or you could be picking it up the same and bringing it home to your family and community unknowingly! How would that make you feel, just so you could hunt a turkey, really?

Wake up people! Over 3,000 people have already died and still we don’t listen. I live in a small rural town in MT and it’s already killed people I know. They aren’t making this shit up guys.

NYC and parts of CA look like war zones and soon so will NO, Detroit, and many other cities.

When you make selfish decisions based on what you think won’t effect anyone else, please please please think again!

Stay safe

Asymptomatic HUMANS carry it and spread it.

When tens or even hundreds of thousands of fellow Americans have died I only hope that it doesn’t effect you or your families.

I have family in their 70's, some with heart conditions, the last thing I want is to loose a loved one due to some peoples not taking this serious enough.

I'm not saying the sky is falling, but if you don't believe "some" of what is being said then we are all in for a scary future. I feel lucky that I live in a rural setting, closest neighbor is few hundred yards, the next is a few more hundred yards beyond that.

So, for your kids and grand kid's sake, be safe to yourself and everyone else.

Bingo.

We have the entire state shut down. Everything closed. We have yet to go on any patient who has the virus.

Good observation. I think folks need to step back and take a deep breath. Just follow the CDC guidelines for separation and hygiene and use common sense. If in doubt, hang out at the house. Do some house projects and honey-do's. We'll get thru this.....

Tongue in cheek guys don't hang me. This really is stupid when I can still go and camp, fish and shed hunt on the same NE property I was going to next week without having a single contact with anyone. Maybe 1 gas fill up at a pay at the pump.

As far a social distancing goes, spending a few days in woods hunting turkeys, fishing, walking around looking for sheds. Is probably doing a better job of it than 99% of the population.

All travelers are asked a series of questions, according to the local CBS News affiliate KENS, with those arriving from places like New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Louisiana forced to give contact information during their required 14-day self-quarantine.

In some cases, drivers posted photos of videos of massive traffic jams soon after the checkpoints were enacted Sunday as cars wait to enter the state. There are currently no federal warnings against domestic travel except for New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut residents who aren't part of "critical infrastructure" activities.

Individuals arriving from the New York City area or Louisiana are subject to a $500 fine or 60 days in jail if they break the order to self-quarantine.

Last week, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis slammed what he called "reckless" travelers from New York who defied local stay-at-home orders for causing an outbreak in his state.

"You're having people be reckless and cause problems for other communities," DeSantis said.

"I think people have realized that the epicenter of this thing has shifted," DeSantis said of the virus. "Now the epicenter worldwide really is New York City. We're really rooting for New York to get through it," he continued. "But what's happened is — and it's a problem for Florida — once the shelter-in-place was issued, people started fleeing the city."

These 2 people were both living normal lives a week ago, heading the shelter in place warnings, and only leaving for essentials.

There is no known case of how either of them got exposed. The only explanation being an asymptomatic carrier that didn’t know.

These two people were husbands, grandfathers, and friends.

Do we need to shutter our homes and stop all outdoor activities, no. Do we need to stop traveling across 2 states, many counties, and more towns and such.....ABSOLUTELY!!! Will this pass, yes in time, but all we are doing is prolonging the pain, sadness, and death by not taking the restrictions seriously!

To argue that death rates are not what they say they or that they pale in comparison to normal day of deaths in a city is so flawed, selfish, and ignorant it’s disgusting!

These people could still be living normal lives, hugging loved ones, and watching grandkids grow. But when people only think of themselves and not ramifications of their decisions others are stricken and some will die.

Katie O’Donnell, spokeswoman for the county health department, clarified that there is just one death out of the 93 Larimer County residents who have tested positive for the coronavirus.

The other three deaths reported by the state are people determined to be “epidemiologically connected,” O’Donnell explained. That means they had symptoms and might have been exposed to the coronavirus but died without being tested.

Hell Yes..... Everything.. Stay at home for 3 weeks and things will start getting back to normal...

I think it's silly to close down things that local people would be able to utilize without having to come into contact with people and places they normally wouldn't. People obviously aren't going out into the woods in large groups...the problem is the number of people you come into contact with when you travel to get to the woods.

Restrictions Are Slowing Coronavirus Infections, New Data Suggest

[The New York Times] Donald G. McNeil Jr. ,The New York Times•March 31, 2020

Harsh measures, including stay-at-home orders and restaurant closures, are contributing to rapid drops in the numbers of fevers — a signal symptom of most coronavirus infections — recorded in states across the country, according to intriguing new data produced by a medical technology firm.

You can’t go get a haircut in a barber shop but you can go buy some joints from the pot shop Because alcohols and marijuana is “essential.” But not the little shop down the road that has 1 or 2 people in it normally.

Nothing has changed for my life. I still have to report to work at the fire station and continue to respond on calls that I will possibly get exposed and expose my family to the virus . We are taking the precautions but I’m not living in fear.

I think it's worth following the guidelines for the next month and stick close to home for any hunting or fishing. Hopefully, this doesn't affect our fall hunts but don't be surprised to see some NR hunting restrictions come September. These are going to be lifestyle changing times.

Then again, WY is a trendsetter with that garbage, closing wilderness areas to NR hunting, but not camping, fishing, berry picking, flower sniffing.

I predict this all ends with rioting in the streets in many major cities across the country.

I stay in my camper or a tent. But what do you think the guy that runs a small motel in rural NE is worried about. Covid or his empty motel with a mortgage and payroll that is due?

I've bailed on a fishing trip with 4 buddies that was scheduled in 3 weeks. I love my fishing buddies, but I figured it was senseless and selfish to expose myself and my wife to 4 other households by sharing a cabin with people who have a larger bubble than mine. Not to mention the exposure to other public areas, like gas stations, grocery stores, etc... We've also cancelled our month-long trip to Florida in May. I'm addicted to tarpon fishing as much as any one, but I'm addicted to life more.

So, that's the small part I'm doing to help fight this invisible enemy. I wish some of you would step up and join the fight. .

Matt

Matt

My brother told his FIL, think of 6 of your closest friends. Now, who do you want to not be here next month? This crap is real folks. Have several family members in health care and they are scared. Worst thing is, there’s no end in sight.

I love to hunt as must as any of you, but there’s no animal worth my life. I love my family more than that.

That's an 18% mortality rate. Where did you get that number. Currently 1.8% not 18%. Am I missing something here??? This is for "people that become infected".

OK, how many guys you know didn't get glasses until they'd been married five or ten years? --------------- Closing deer and elk seasons, now, would make no sense because we probably won't have nearly as many contagious people by then. And it's the contagious factor in this that makes it so difficult. If you want to be stupid and step in front of a car and get hit. Fine...but it's not contagious. With this disease, you may step in front of the car, not get a scratch but kill a neighbor and put three more in the hospital for two weeks.

We have a town of maybe 1,000 in eastern Kansas. Covid is making its way through a nursing home. Where did it come from? Who knows? Remember, 22 died in one facility in Washington.

Our daughter had a friend have some scary times, but she'll make it. She's two-months along and her unborn child now has a brain tumor. No clue if it's from the virus.

The guy she got the disease from was fine when she worked with him. No symptoms. Very healthy. No "conditions"....dead in less than seven days. Several others at the hospital were also infected by him. So, they're in isolation, various degrees of illnesses, but can't see their spouses or children for at least two weeks. The hospital is scrambling to find staff to take their place until they're in the clear.

This is a totally different beast than we've dealt with. Look at the refrigerated trailers filled with dead bodies in NYC, sick having to go to tents in parking lots.

No time to panic. Social isolation has worked well in other pandemics and other countries during this one.

We just need to be patient...and not think we know more than the medical professionals.

This quote said it all for me. Talk about disingenuous !

Katie O’Donnell, spokeswoman for the county health department, clarified that there is just one death out of the 93 Larimer County residents who have tested positive for the coronavirus.

The other three deaths reported by the state are people determined to be “epidemiologically connected,” O’Donnell explained. That means they had symptoms and might have been exposed to the coronavirus but died without being tested.

“There’s no testing, no confirmation, no definitive,” said O’Donnell. “BUT ITS STILL CONSIDERED A (CORONAVIRUS) DEATH"

Maybe they are concerned you might not remain isolated? Vehicle problems, hunting accident, heart attack etc. The possibility exists you may come into contact with others if you go, but no chance of that if you stay home.

But it's unrealistic from a disease point of view to compare NYC to rural Nebraska.Its like comparing a commercial broiler house to free range chickens.

It's common sense to not put a broiler on your farm.

Hopefully the rural areas of the US won't experience the peak before the curve flattens out.

Of course this is serious. We will learn much from this after the fact, like why did some places get it like gangbusters, while other places, like my county of 300,000, not get hit as hard. We have had one death from it, an 80 year old woman in a nursing home. This will be a good, but tragic, lesson on how to deal with another pandemic that could be far more deadly.

You can't have an accident or a heart attack at home? Your only valid example is vehicle problems but that's a stretch. What happens if your car breaks down while you're going to the grocery store to join the masses inside the store? Same deal.

If I was to cross over the CO/NE state line to turkey hunt I would have no contact with anyone. I'd be on private land also. A lot less contact with anyone than staying home and just walking the dog with the hoards of others in the neighborhood who now have nothing to do except walk the dog.

I do however understand them closing the sale of turkey permits in NE as not everyone would be in the same situation of zero contact as I am. I have a friend who's in the ICU with a ventilator down his throat. It's real.

The model presented today says with shutting down, less than 300k die in the U.S. That's still more than 5-6 times what the annual flu kill is.

Without shutting down, 1.5-2 million die. That's unacceptable.

And really, how many people going to NE this time of the year to fish, camp etc? It's a numbers game, stop turkey hunters coming in and you probably stop the majority.

If you can get all the groceries, gas, and supplies you need for your trip to the turkey woods without any additional trips to the store or gas station and with no additional direct or indirect human contact (or breathing in or exhaling air while in those places), probably none.

I bet all the folks fleeing the hot zones in NYC to neighboring states have the same rationale.

How f'ing hard is that?

It's just not hard. STAY home. Let this play out. If the experts are wrong it's a win. If they are right it's a win

But his plan of a worldwide vaccine and worldwide ID is a little Scary to me

Proud this has been a very civil discussion in very stressful times.

For those who ask about staying in a cabin. Well, they can't make rules for just each individual. It's turkey hunting. It's something most of us have done for years and will, hopefully do for more years. We have other things we can do.

These are uncertain times. Most of us who are bowhunters are independent cusses and it's not easy to follow directions that take us in the other direction.

I miss seeing my grandkids. We won't be able to fly to So Cal in a few weeks to see our daughter and her family, who we haven't seen in several months.

A friend's daughter had to postpone a wedding. Rather than walking down the aisle at a winery, that afternoon she'll be walking down the hallway of the KU Med Center, on a floor that's filled with Covid cases.

Who knows what will come next. A lot depends on how well people isolate and stay home. If things get tougher, we'll just have to adjust and have faith.

I do know that all I've heard from those who've been affected by Covid say the same thing - stay home. This is serious.

BTW, NY released inmates including sex offenders from a Monroe County jail and put them up in a local hotel and told the desk clerks to call them if the convicts tried to leave the hotel. WHAT????????????

With all these criminals going back out on the streets, they are only making a bad situation even worse! LOTS of bad decisions being made in the name of "public safety!" : (

https://www.wesmoss.com/news/an-important-covid-19-update-and-advice-video-from-dr-dave-price/

As disappointed as I am about not being able to hunt NE this spring, I get it. The best and most responsible thing I can do for myself, my family and others is to stay home until all this passes, and it will. Some of us are in a position where our actions have a direct impact on this situation, some not. But we can all make a positive difference with PRAYER. Prayer matters! God bless.....

Jaq......I was thinking about that yesterday. I was thinking this showed our (and other countries) vulnerability to NBC attacks. Specifically the "B" piece of it. If a new, fast spreading biologic was dropped on us or we dropped one on our enemy, we now see the real world, likely crippling effect it would have. A real bad biologic would take out a country fast without the devastation of a nuke. A terrorist group with backpacks could take us out and we wouldn't know what happened till it was too late.

Is it possible the Chinese did this on purpose as a test run.....I don't know. Recall we did have some Chinese try to gain access to high profile places recently. Mara Lago comes to mind. Could be related, could be nothing related. I'm sure our intel folks have asked the same question(s) and looking to see if any dots can be connected. Maybe in the future we will find out if there was anything to what happened.

The attached national map from Weather Underground shows each county and the number of cases....or no cases at all. Just need to zoom it out to see the whole country. You can see the population centers (big cities) are the hardest hit. Alot of counties do not have any cases at all.

I said it before and I'll say it again....just follow the CDC guidelines and do not panic. Use common sense. If I go out I avoid crowds/people. I will go at odd hours when no one is around. I clean my hands alot and I won't touch my face until I washed, etc. Everyone's situation is different. I can safely go to the beach at sunrise or out in the woods or out in the boat....places I can be by myself and away from strangers. Other folks can't safely do things like that by virtue of where they live. I think some perspective is needed to understand many of us are in different situations/areas.

If no one hasn't noticed yet, the media loves body counts....at least where I'm at. It kind of reminds me of the VN War. I can clearly remember Walter Cronkite giving body counts each night. It almost seemed like he enjoyed it in a sick sense. The news channels here run the body counts at the bottom of the screen throughout the day when they do virus updates for the local counties. They neglect to tell you how many survived it. Yes, this virus can be deadly and kill you just as the flu can kill you, but ALOT (emphasis added) more people survive it than are killed by it. Step back, take a breath, do some house chores or honey-do's or shoot your bow in the back yard...we'll eventually get thru this.

I don't want to be that out of towner that takes a chance of unknowingly spreading to a relatively isolated community.

I can't stand the news and this site has gotten insane too. You think we actually control things? Thats the funny part.

We should all just stay home forever, safest bet possible. No one will die from car crash or accidents, or murder. We could save so many lives!! What say you guys? Everyone at home forever?! No more danger, no risk, nothing can get you. We just cant risk anyone leaving ever again. They might die. What a great life!

We've been thru these things before as a people. Never through a shutdown like this though. We will see what the fallout from that is soon enough.

And we've never been through something, in our lifetimes, where we have refrigerated semi-trailers backed up to hospitals for the bodies, or had the sick staying in tents in parking lots, or states in bidding wars over medical supplies like ventilators.

The closest thing we had was the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918. During that one, several cities went into quarantine mode. Others did not. The final results were compelling.

Unfortunately the cost of life is death. People will die. We are not in control and they are absolutely not all preventable. Sorry.

Yes we have been through other pandemics. We never shut the whole world down. There will be a major cost to that, in my opinion. Not just financially either. Like I said, we shall see the fallout from that in time. The numbers show most will get the virus and be fine. LOOK at the stats. If you are older, or at risk you should stay home for a bit. Or if you are healthy but scared of getting it, stay home. Make the choice. It used to be a free America. These closures and especially the ones closing the outdoors.....thats scary stuff. Things people before us voluntarily GAVE their lives for! YES! They died for those freedoms you and I enjoy. Those freedoms came at great cost and by brave men making choices. Tomorrow is never a given. You have today.

I have some advice for them:

Given the history of "super flu" pandemics, going forward please use a tiny sliver of our money to have enough masks, other PPE gear and ventilators to get through the first few months.

Washington is scared of fishermen, but not turkey hunters. Nebraska is the opposite. Kansas is more scared of CO weed than either. Same with OK and WY. None of those states mind if I come hunting as long as I leave my pot home. Some states are locking law-abiding citizens in their homes while turning criminals loose.

Meanwhile here in CO, pot, liquor, and guns are considered "essential" but backcountry skiing is banned. The state got caught deliberately inflating COVID death rates, presumably to get more federal money.

I wonder what sort of response would be happening if we didn't have continuous 24-7 sensationalized news saturation from every possible medium? Has this amplified the perceived crisis beyond what actually exists? Time will tell.

When? I think you will struggle answering that question.

Iowa's hunting and fishing regulations are not affected by the current COVID-19 health emergency in Iowa. Despite rumors on social media channels, the Iowa Department of Natural Resources (DNR) has no plans to eliminate seasons, relax regulations or change license prices.

"Fishing and hunting regulations exist to protect human safety as well as wildlife populations over the long-term," said Dr. Dale Garner, Conservation and Recreation division administrator at the Iowa DNR. "We balance the long-term sustainability of Iowa's natural resources with the well-being of Iowans, and will continue to take a thoughtful, science-based approach to Iowa's hunting and fishing laws."

For more information about Iowa's hunting and fishing regulations, visit the Iowa DNR website: www.iowadnr.gov

This is for people traveling from certain areas and applies to residents as well.

"Turkey Season: All 2020 spring seasons will continue as planned, including the spring turkey season. Hunters traveling from states listed on the Kansas Department of Health and Environment’s “Travel Quarantine List,” referenced here http://www.kdheks.gov/coronavirus, must self-quarantine upon arrival for 14 days prior to hunting and/or checking into a state park cabin. Refunds will be available for those no longer able to travel."

This would apply to you, Quinn. Colorado is one of those states listed.

This is not our "country" asking us to make sacrifices. It appears to be some local officials making knee-jerk, arbitrary decisions. Yes, this is very serious. Yes, we need to be overly-cautious and avoid risk to ourselves and others. But clear-headed logic seems to be in as short supply in some places as protective gear.

In CO, you can go to a pot shop but not a big outdoor archery range. Are potheads less contagious than archers? Why should archers be forced to sacrifice while hemp-heads have a free pass? Why are hunting and fishing officially encouraged in some states, but banned in others? That's what we're talking about here.

We offer awesome turkey hunting with easy to get tags and the option to buy 3 tags. Been doing it for years. We have cheap deer tags and a lot of them to offer the nonresident as well. If for one spring you can’t stay home for the health of the public then I don’t know what to tell you. If your state restricts me then I’m happy to oblige. We will welcome you back with open arms next year with the same great opportunities you have always enjoyed. As for me, I’m not going to go fishing at my sisters in SD or my annual trip to Minnesota. Not because I can’t but because it’s the right thing to do. It’s not about me as an individual l, it’s about all the individuals as a whole.

Wilhillie, there's a reason why kids don't listen to authority figures. We're seeing more evidence of it every day. Are you telling your kids it's cool to smoke weed and get drunk but not to shoot bows? That's what our officials are telling our kids.

It's disgusting.

What reputable authority figure is saying to not shelter in place? The president? VP? SURGEON GENERAL? WHO? PLEASE TELL ME!!!! Who exactly is not making rational decisions? Or do these " irrational decisions" inconvenience you so therefore they are irrational?

  The City of Fort Collins has closed the outdoor range until further notice.  The entrance road is blocked and posted.  Please honor this closure until the City deems it acceptable to reopen.

Thanks,

FCAA Board of Directors"

But I can walk into a pot store and load up.

"What reputable authority figure is saying to not shelter in place?" Ummm, the state just announced this morning that they are ENCOURAGING people to go fishing. Nonresidents welcomed. So if you are deemed too dangerous in Nebraska, come here, get stoned, have a beer, and catch some fish!

I’m with Lou on this one. The message being sent is a little Off.

Sure close down turkey seasons, close whatever. But closing down for a few weeks doesn’t do anything to make the virus go away. The virus will still be around. So what then? Do we just stay closed down for the rest of our lives?

This is what I'm talking about. And we expect kids (and adults) to trust the guidance of public officials? Especially after some of those same public officials got caught inflating the COVID death toll here too?

With hunting licenses, it's easy to identify who definitely be traveling, non residents, and it's easy to pull the plug on sales.

If other industries were that cut and dry, they too would be closed/cancelled.

I live in the middle of the city. I cannot shoot my bow in my yard. I haven't been to an archery range in over a year. But I haven't stopped shooting. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a majority of public lands are open, find a secluded, safe spot, and shoot your bow! Just don't congregate! Gee whiz man.

I had to look it up to make sure I knew what the heck it was and why a 12 year old shouldn't go.