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What a piece of crap.......
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Bou'bound 20-Apr-20
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midwest 20-Apr-20
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badbull 20-Apr-20
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JL 21-Apr-20
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From: Bou'bound
20-Apr-20
What bow was that for you?

Golden eagle for me

From: x-man
20-Apr-20
Any of the early 2000's Diamond single cam bows.

20-Apr-20
PSE Carroll Intruder. Couldn’t keep limbs on it.

From: x-man
20-Apr-20
I didn't own one but, the PSE Baby-G was possibly the worst bow ever made.

From: JohnMC
20-Apr-20
Elite Not so much the bow but the company and how they handle their "Forever" warranty.

From: Grubby
20-Apr-20
Hoyt smoke

From: jdee
20-Apr-20
Z7 EXTREME ....couldn’t get that short thing to shoot for the two years I owned it.

From: Screwball
20-Apr-20
Jennings Carbon Extreme

20-Apr-20
Golden Eagle for sure... junk...

From: Two Feathers
20-Apr-20
The first self bow I made.

From: Dale06
20-Apr-20
Don’t remember the model, but an early 90s Hoyt. Couple weeks after I bought it new, I was at full draw, shooting targets. Boom, it blew up. Had a minor cut on top of my head, and abrasions on my arm. Took it to pro shop, and he put it back together, and I believe put on new strings and cables. Several weeks later, the same thing happened. Took it to pro shop and traded for another brand.

From: nvgoat
20-Apr-20
Had an Oneida. Don't remember the model- maybe Strike Eagle. Loud. Couldn't keep the cables from sliding thru the locking screw so wouldn't stay in tune.

From: Kurt
20-Apr-20
I didn't shoot a new 2011 Hoyt Carbon Element well under hunting conditions. Most expensive bow I ever bought...jumpy cams with minimal valley, poor finish that wore off the riser and grip area very quickly, but mainly I had too many arrows hit somewhere other than behind the sight pin when hunting. Used it for a couple seasons then hung it up and finally sold it.

From: Bloodtrail
20-Apr-20
Some type of Browning with an overdraw system circa 1989. Not mine but I watched my friend break the limbs on two of them drawing them back. Completely shattered them.

From: WI Shedhead
20-Apr-20
Mathews Z light. 5 Matthews models after that have been excellent

20-Apr-20
Golden Eagle Formula 3D

It didn’t have limb pockets and the limbs twisted over and over.

From: PREZ
20-Apr-20
Rytera Alien X and the Golden Eagle Formula 3 D.

20-Apr-20
Never really had a bad bow guess I was lucky.... But I only owned, PSE, Matthews and Hoyt so I never bought crap

From: t-roy
20-Apr-20
Golden Eagle as well. Only bow I’ve ever had blow up on me.

From: milnrick
20-Apr-20
Bear Archery's Cheyenne Compound...

From: skull
20-Apr-20
Onaida eagles

From: APauls
20-Apr-20
Never had one

From: fubar racin
20-Apr-20
Pse super g force man I hated that bow.

From: Ollie
20-Apr-20
If a bow was a piece of “crap”, it was likely because my performance with that bow was just that.

20-Apr-20
I know you only asked for one, but I’ve had two that I was equally disappointed in, although for entirely different reasons. A PSE FireFlite Express, and a Mathews MQ-1.

From: yeager
20-Apr-20
Can’t say I ever had a bow I didn’t like, whether traditional or compound.

From: Buffalo1
20-Apr-20
I'm not saying it was a POC, but the Elite Impulse had a very short relationship with me. Many people love the draw cycle, I found it to be too harsh for my liking.

From: Mule Power
20-Apr-20
I’ll second Jennings Carbon Extreme

From: Shug
20-Apr-20
Continental

20-Apr-20
CSS was inconsistent. I think it stood for Cant shoot straight.

From: StickFlicker
20-Apr-20
I hated my PSE Baby G, but it probably taught me to shoot better moreso than any other bow. If you didn't hold it perfectly, it beat the living crap out of you!

From: PAOH
20-Apr-20
Matthews SQ2

From: JasonInIowa
20-Apr-20
Mine was a Martin Bengal.

20-Apr-20
Hoyt Trykon

From: bad karma
20-Apr-20
I had an Oneida Eagle that would go out of tune if you farted within ten miles of it.

From: midwest
20-Apr-20
Never had one I really hated.

From: Whocares
20-Apr-20
Just put on the favorites thread my old XI Legend cuz it was my first. You know how you remember the first! But, it was the only one that ever blew up on me. A story. My buddy and I had back packed in to a favorite spot. Opening morning we split up and see ya tonight. About 9 am I did the draw the bow back to stretch the muscles as you occasionally do during the day. Gave myself a 70# punch in the face as the cables and strings let loose! Used fingers in those days so it wasn't a release screw up. The bow looked fine so now what. Hiked back to camp and left Barry a note and said I'll be back in a day or two and hopefully have a bow. i remembered seeing a bow shop in Meeker. Stopped there and told the two guys running it about my problem. They said leave the bow and come back in the morning. First they took me in another room and there sat a number of ladies working away making strings and maybe even cables. Anyway, they said they had a contract with I think it was Hoyt and were in the manufacturing business. Next morning I go in and they handed me the bow all put together! They had an indoor range and helped me get it sighted back in. When I asked them how much they said nothing! I asked how can that be? They said it was just a fun challenge to see if they could fix it and help a fellow hunter! They wouldn't take a thing. I left twenty bucks and said well at least buy a case of beer. They said they could do that. And off I went back to camp and ended up getting a nice 5x5 a few days later. Seems like I told this story on Bowsite sometime in the past. But there you got it again!

From: Whocares
20-Apr-20
bad karma, that was a bad one!!

20-Apr-20
Oneida

From: GF
20-Apr-20
I can’t complain about any bow I’ve ever owned.

From: creed
20-Apr-20
Golden Eagle. It once exploded sitting in the front seat of the truck as I was driving down the road. Twice while shooting it. Biggest piece of junk ever made.

From: badbull
20-Apr-20
Oneida getting a bad rap here so I will pile on. I never owned one but shot my son's friend's Oneida once and got the worst string slap ever. It could not have been the fact that the draw length was 3 inches too long for me.

From: casper
20-Apr-20
#1 Golden Eagle compound with the Rambo recurve style limbs , cracked me in the side of the head like mike tyson when she blew the top limb at full draw. #2 Asbel bighorn recurve blew the top limb and they wouldn't warranty it and at the time wanted 300.00 for a set of limbs, threw it in the trash and had wes wallace build me a custom recurve that still shoots beautiful to this day. win some lose some

From: JL
21-Apr-20
I never had a crappy bow....but I was a crappy shooter at one time. Can't blame that on the bow.

From: TxHuntr
21-Apr-20
Hoyt Pro Force Extreme. Shop could never tune it. Did kill my first deer with it tho.

Bought a Mathews Outback and thought I was in heaven, only to learn it was not one of their better models. Big age gap between the two could be a factor. I upgrade more often now!

From: Basil
21-Apr-20
Golden Eagle formula 3D. Cam lean was ridiculous. If you turned it upside down & drew it & looked how the string nearly derailed from the grooves. Terrifying , didn’t keep mine long enough for it to blow up

From: jstephens61
21-Apr-20
Golden Eagles were junk and heavy. Luckily, never had one blow up. Xi Flatliner was the worst bow I ever shot. It was just harsh. Draw, shock, everything about it.

From: Bowboy
21-Apr-20
Hoyt Trykon. When you let down it wanted to rip your arm off.

From: Smtn10PT
21-Apr-20
Mathews Creed, hated that thing!

From: pav
21-Apr-20
My worst hunting bow was a Mathews LX. My best target bow was a Mathews LX.

From: papadeerhtr
21-Apr-20
Hoyt Trykon just a poor bow couldn't keep it in tune.

21-Apr-20
high country sniper. never could keep it tuned more than a few days. this was the bow that caused me to have a back up bow, got sick of missing hunting time working on the bow during the season.

From: Shawn
21-Apr-20
PSE Fire-Flite, had 2 blow up on me. They were set at 90#s and was told I could shoot 600 plus

From: Bowbender
21-Apr-20
Pav,

“My worst hunting bow was a Mathews LX. My best target bow was a Mathews LX.”

Gotta ask why it was your worse hunting bow? I loved mine till it split a limb. Mathews replaced the limbs but I just can’t get back in tune.

From: Shawn
21-Apr-20
Grain arrows from them. Both exploded! Shawn

From: Burly
21-Apr-20
It would be a tie, either a Pearson Spoiler or PSE Fire Flight Express. Couldn't keep limbs on them ,at least in the 80# models I owned.

From: PECO
21-Apr-20
PSE, it was not a POS, but the draw cycle was very harsh and to narrow of a valley. I think it was a Dream Season.

From: Knife2sharp
21-Apr-20
AR 34, very inconsistent bow from the get go and acquired bad cam lean.

From: Highlife
21-Apr-20

From: Jrhendricks
21-Apr-20
Funny to see how we are all different. I had a Hoyt Trykon XL that was the sweetest shooting bow I ever had. Heavy, but really good shooting. Fell in love with Hoyt only to spend $1500 on a 2014 carbon Spyder that I don't shoot as well, and the finish wore off of it within the first 6 months, of course, not covered by warranty.

From: Boatman71
21-Apr-20
Alpine Rebel TC..... Had so much vibration it would literally destroy an aluminum sight. Built for "speed" not forgiveness. P.O.S. Tomahawk Cams were not friendly!

From: South Farm
21-Apr-20
Indian Archery Recurve with a flat shelf. THWAANGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: bigdog21
21-Apr-20
another golden eagle formula limbs moving

From: goelk
21-Apr-20
Wapiti Recurve

From: Nick Muche
21-Apr-20

From: Quick Draw 1
21-Apr-20

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We recently started a "Way Back Archery Wednesday" at the archery shop, looking back at what archery looked like 40ish years ago. Here's the Bear Compound Bow Kit. From 1981. I guess they were trying to take a cue from the muzzleloader mfgs, where the muzzleloader kit was popular at the time. Anyone ever have one of these things?.....or know anyone who did? Wondering if it would land on this thread...

From: pav
21-Apr-20
Bowbender, I could shoot bullet holes with that LX on the target range, but put me 25ft up a tree....my accuracy fell to pieces. I can only assume it was a combination of the short brace height and my own poor form shooting angles. Swapped the LX out for a Drenalin LD...roughly same length, but longer brace height...and the shooting woes from the treestand went away. Go figure...

From: Supernaut
21-Apr-20
A Martin Lynx Magnum back in the late 80's or early 90's with hatchet cams and an overdraw. If you looked at it wrong it was out of tune. I "upgraded" for that bow from a Bear Whitetail, young and dumb.

From: stagetek
21-Apr-20
Around 1974 I bought a Wing compound. It was their start in the compound business. I believe it was designed by someone named Ketchum. Looked much sleeker than the wood handle Jennings, and of course "anything" looked better than an Allen. But...it was a complete piece of crap. Plastic wheels, the cables broke thru them. Out of tune, all the time. Loud and slow. But, it looked nice !

From: Ironbow-cell
21-Apr-20
Early Browning bows with wood handles. Handles split or warped, limbs blew. Pretty bows but junk.

From: GF
21-Apr-20
Funny how you Compounders have always been chasing after More Speed, yet when a speedbow has a harsh draw cycle or is temperamental or has some kind of a durability issue or just blows up on you entirely (after maybe too many 5 GPP arrows down-range???)... it’s somehow the fault of the bow??

I sure would be interested to know what complaint goelk had with the Wapiti; first time I’ve ever heard anything but positives about them.

From: 76aggie
21-Apr-20
I have never owned a bow I did not like whether it be a recurve or compound. Always tried to do my research before buying.

From: JTreeman
21-Apr-20
I don’t have any that I consider a “POS”, but have certainly thought some better than others over the years.

I did have one of those Browning wood riser bows, didn’t have it long enough to call it crap, never killed an animal with it, but buddy shot it for a couple years trouble free and killed a couple deer with it.

—Jim

From: Bake
21-Apr-20
Another vote for the Hoyt Trykon. Shot hard and fast, and killed a few things with it, but couldn't keep the dang thing in tune.

I'm still mad at Hoyt for it, to tell you the truth, and haven't considered a Hoyt since then. I don't often carry grudges, being a forgive and forget man, but when I do, I REALLY carry them, and I'm gonna hold on to this Hoyt grudge for a long while :)

From: beemann
21-Apr-20
Had an Oneida eagle in the 80's. That thing pushed me into traditional archery. Kinda glad now but at the time it was maddening. Threw it across the yard on more than one occasion.

From: YZF-88
21-Apr-20
Hoyt RX3. Fit and finish was absolute crap. Draw cycle was not good (personal preference). It was loud and had quite a bit of hand vibration.

From: ROUGHCOUNTRY
22-Apr-20
I didn't know it at the time but I second the old Browning Cobra (wooden compound). I was lucky to hit a paper plate at 20 yards:) My dad had the Browning Xcellerator (fancy wooden compound) but I don't remember him killing anything with that one either, ha.

From: Kevin Dill
23-Apr-20
^^^^^for sure,

I was a young married guy with bow money in my pocket. Went to Lane Sporting Goods in Marietta, OH. The sales guy was going crazy on how good the Browning Cobra was for me. Something about the draw or poundage wasn't right, so he started turning a hex wrench. The bow blew apart right there in his hands....cables and stuff looking like the debris you yank out of a demolished building. Yeah....that's one I never owned.

From: Timex
23-Apr-20
My first bow was a Browning accelerator. I knew absolutely nothing about bows but did kill some deer with that bow. I also had an Oneida that needed constant attention & sounded like a screen door slamming but again I killed some deer with it. Never really had a bow leave a sour taste in my mouth was always just trying something different

From: 4406v
24-Apr-20
Jennings Uni-Star I bought around 1985 might as well have carried a cinder block!!!

From: Quinn @work
24-Apr-20
Bear whitetail. The one with the pulleys.

From: 3arrows
24-Apr-20
Matthews SQ2 could not buy limbs.

From: Screwball
24-Apr-20
I forgot about: PSE Mach I Overdraw, blew that thing up so many times. But was getting between 314 and 324 ft per sec. in the chrono. Erratic and extreme. But fast for the 80's. Shooting 2419 XX75's 31" 90#. Limbs were meant for 80 but we shimmed them up. LOL

24-Apr-20
Browning single cam I think was an Afterburner? Derailed on my when drawing on a very nice wide 4X4 WT. Wasn't happy at all.

From: Trophyhill
25-Apr-20
I haven't owned that bow yet. I did have an 82nd Airborne that was tearing my shoulder up though. It was a great shooter but tough to draw and wanted to go.

From: papadeerhtr
26-Apr-20
I bought a Reflex Bighorn once never liked it after shooting it. At the time money was tight and was cheap bow, loud and heavy waste of what little money I had.

From: carcus
26-Apr-20
Had a few Champion bows that were crap, more recently I didn't own the mathews chillr for very long, I couldn't stand it

From: Drummer Boy
26-Apr-20
high country,88 model blew up three times no two times.Sold it to a guy at work that new it's history and he used it for over 20 years.

From: Tajue17
26-Apr-20
GF --> Wapiti,, along time ago around when the leather wall first came on-line I did hear some bad stuff I think they were breaking at the limb mounts or some did and the owner was not honoring the warrantys and not even returning calls.. RMS sells a lot of them now they look like pretty nice bows.. I'm sure if you make a thread in the LW some will chime in on what happened back then but could of been rumors or just a bad batch of riserwoods who knows I can think of 8 other bows I had problems like that. my worse compound was a Ross Cardiac,, shot great and killed deer with it but a certain store clerk convinced me to change my original Mathews choice to a ross then that same person when I needed a string a couple months later at that store after they dumped ross told me "we don't work on those and don't even really want them in the store" all because Ross canceled some moose hunt,,,,,whatever that was my worse experience because I couldn't tell one bow form another,,,,,,,,I still think my treasured 2006 Mathews Rival Pro is the best compound bow ever made, of course I don't know any better 8^) so if anyone has one that pulls 50@ 27" we need to talk 8^)

From: Fuzzy
27-Apr-20
Browning Midas

From: Trad PA
27-Apr-20
Geez I loved my baby G and Golden Eagle Carbine Hawk, the first 2 “real” bows I had and as a teenager I did great with them. The worst ever for me was a Bowtech Mighty Mite, limb split on the third shot

From: Animal
27-Apr-20
Every compound I ever had, that's why traditional now only!

From: wyliecoyote
28-Apr-20
None of them were an actual POS.....they all required the paradox of strength and finesse employed at the same time which resulted in many accurate and many inaccurate shots caused by my inability to control strength and finesse at the same time...the real POS was my self-discipline..which i am still fighting..LOL

Joe

From: PECO
28-Apr-20
I would also like to hear some first hand experience with Wapiti. I have one, great bow and no issues. Keith makes a hunting bow, not a beauty queen and some guys do whine about the finish.

From: Toonces
28-Apr-20
The posts about the Baby G are funny.

What an absolute beast of bow that was.

I had an 80 pound one with an overdraw. Scary to even think about.

From: 3under
28-Apr-20
Oregon Valient Crusader .. only think they were in business for a year or so... developed limb noise you couldn't get rid of . Couldn't hunt with it.

From: badbull
28-Apr-20
My first compound was an Allen. I must give Mr. Allen credit for creating it as we probably wouldn't have the compounds of today if not for him. The biggest problem with it that I remember was the noise. Each time that I released it sounded close to that of a muffled .22 report. Each compound that I have owned has been an improvement over the prior one (at least for me). l think that the archery industry has done well as far as improving the performance of the compound bow.

From: sundowner
30-Apr-20
ProLine Riptide. Shooting it sounded like slamming a screen door on a double-wide.

From: ELKMAN
30-Apr-20
Any of the Mathews slim limb bows...

From: KHNC
30-Apr-20
Some of these are amazing replies. For example, my Mathews SQ2 was one of the best bows i ever owned. Shot lights out. I shot MULTIPLE 5 spot 300's with skinny arrows with that bow. Kept it 15 years before i broke down and sold it because it sat on the shelf.

From: Dino
30-Apr-20
Yup. I agree with Elkman. The slim Mathews were very frail!

From: Fuzzy
30-Apr-20
3 under I had a VC. limbs blew out. I made a Frankenbow recurve and still hunt with it...much better recurve than it was a compound

From: 12yards
30-Apr-20
Probably the worst bow I bought was an old PSE Pulsar back in 1987. Was cheap, had nylon plastic wheels and started squeeking in a year. I did kill my first deer with it and shot it well, but it didn't hold up well. It was a better bow than my old Polar LTD, but it was an entry level bow that didn't hold up to a lot of shooting back in the day. The next PSE I bought was one of their top of the line bows, a Jet Flite Express. That one was way better, but I had a riser break in half and it was replaced. Then I went on to kill 20+ animals with it. Loud but deadly and threw my big 2317s hard at animals. Every bow I've had since has been a good bow.

From: Candor
03-May-20
Never a crappy one, but I have had several PSE's and never grown to where I like the way they shoot.

From: Tonybear61
03-May-20
I still have my Golden Eagle, its a carp bow been shooting it for almost 40 years.

Bear, Brown bear wood bow split the ends of the limbs. Bought one of those kits for my Dad that was posted earlier. He shot it for about 4-5 years then bought a high country. Last bow he owned. My brother still shoots it some times

03-May-20
The great thing about the Hoyt trykon was that if you missed a deer with the arrow you could always hit it over the head with a bow. That should do the trick. Sucker was heavy!

From: brewski
04-May-20
Oneida eagle??

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