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John dudlys nock 2 it reviews
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Contributors to this thread:
NeilH1967 30-Apr-20
Dino 30-Apr-20
bb 30-Apr-20
Boatman71 30-Apr-20
Ucsdryder 30-Apr-20
bb 30-Apr-20
midwest 30-Apr-20
NeilH1967 30-Apr-20
midwest 30-Apr-20
Beachtree 30-Apr-20
NeilH1967 30-Apr-20
NeilH1967 02-May-20
NeilH1967 02-May-20
NeilH1967 02-May-20
midwest 02-May-20
Bowfreak 02-May-20
mooseslayer 02-May-20
NeilH1967 02-May-20
Ucsdryder 02-May-20
bb 02-May-20
midwest 03-May-20
bb 03-May-20
Dino 03-May-20
WapitiBob 03-May-20
NeilH1967 03-May-20
midwest 03-May-20
mooseslayer 03-May-20
bb 03-May-20
mooseslayer 03-May-20
Scrappy 03-May-20
NeilH1967 04-May-20
Bowfreak 04-May-20
completesportsman 04-May-20
midwest 04-May-20
bb 04-May-20
phoneman 04-May-20
NeilH1967 04-May-20
bb 04-May-20
NeilH1967 04-May-20
bb 04-May-20
NeilH1967 04-May-20
bb 04-May-20
carcus 05-May-20
From: NeilH1967
30-Apr-20
Need reviews n pics of johns nock 2 it, looking to purchase one!! Thanks in advance

From: Dino
30-Apr-20
Great release. Just go ahead and get it, you won’t be disappointed!

From: bb
30-Apr-20
Awesome release, very well made, worth every penny. Been using it for a couple of years. Target panic that I have been living with for as long as I can remember, is gone.

From: Boatman71
30-Apr-20
Yep, just buy it. You wont regret it. I have owned a Silverback for three years and its the only release I shoot.

From: Ucsdryder
30-Apr-20
It’s a 2 finger Carter wise choice. It’s a fine release. I have one. I don’t think it’s that crisp and it has travel that won’t go away no matter how much I adjust it. It’s a fine release all in all. There’s a cult following behind it and the fanboys are thic! Haha

From: bb
30-Apr-20
If there is travel in the trigger, I have been unable to find it. Maybe you have a bad release or maybe need someone to adjust your release for you.

From: midwest
30-Apr-20
It's a Carter so it's top shelf. I've been using one for at least 3 seasons. Mine has zero travel. I have all three of his releases...thumb button, hinge, and tension.... and can change from one to the other with no difference in anchor.

Ucsdryder, I would send yours back.

From: NeilH1967
30-Apr-20
Just ordered and had been shipped, I have the wise choice and also a truball hinge. They have been sold out awhile and finally came back into stock.

From: midwest
30-Apr-20
You can shoot that Nok 2 It just like the Wise Choice using your 3rd finger if you want.

From: Beachtree
30-Apr-20
Excellent release

From: NeilH1967
30-Apr-20
That’s why I bought it, like how small it is but can still use the 3rd finger, wise choice seems more like. 4 finger size

From: NeilH1967
02-May-20
Booo.

From: NeilH1967
02-May-20
Slop

From: NeilH1967
02-May-20
Slop

From: midwest
02-May-20
yikes!

From: Bowfreak
02-May-20
If you are talking about the thumb trigger....there is a good chance it has slop. You need to set it to your preference. As far as the set screw and wrenches ...I'd say call Carter. They will hook you up.

From: mooseslayer
02-May-20
Bb. How was this release able to cure your target panic?

From: NeilH1967
02-May-20
Booo

From: Ucsdryder
02-May-20
Neil, that might be covid related but I’ll say I’ve called a lot of archery manufacturers...bowtech, prime, spot hogg, hha, hamskea, trophy taker, to name a few off the top of my head. Carter was BY FAR the WORST customer service I ever had. I like my wise choice but I’ll never give them another penny.

From: bb
02-May-20
"Bb. How was this release able to cure your target panic?" The problem I had was manipulating a trigger. I'm able to use this release without pressing the trigger, just back tension. I have the trigger turned so it's short enough that I can sit where it's almost to the base of my thumb. from there it's just back tension. There is zero trigger movement before it releases, which helps. I started with the silverback which worked so good for me that I transitioned to this and as long as I didn't try to use the trigger as a traditional trigger I was fine. Squeezing a trigger is the source of my target panic, once I eliminated that part of the sequence I was fine. Neil, sounds like you have a bad one . I have none of that with mine. It is solid and well built.

From: midwest
03-May-20
Did you get it through Carter or Nock On?

From: bb
03-May-20
I bought it from nock on. I don't think it really matters which one is used, whether it is nock on , carter or another brand. It's just that this was the one that I stumbled on that solved a problem that I was living with for decades. I didn't really want to change style or brand releases, but this worked so well at solving my problem that I had not choice and I tried everything imaginable, I tried a Bernies can't punch, that worked for about a half hour and I found a way to punch it. The key was getting my index finger out of the equation and not pressing/punching a trigger. I have been using this system a couple of years now and it's great. Theoretically, I could have done the same thing with my old release but It wouldn't work, as soon as my index finger would reach for the trigger my bow arm would drop. If I removed my trigger finger from the trigger, I could hold the pin on the target all day. My index finger has to be out of the process. I first tried the silverback and that immediately solved the issue. I hunted and still do hunt with the silverback, but the other one makes it a bit easier. I'm actually surprised by the reports of sloppiness, bad fit etc. the two I have are solid, no slop, no extra movement everything is made very well.

From: Dino
03-May-20
The Nock2it, in combo with the Silverback(tension) release and Dudley’s teaching is a TP beater for sure! For me, Carter’s customer service has been outstanding!

From: WapitiBob
03-May-20
Sounds like it's missing a pin on the thumb button link.

From: NeilH1967
03-May-20
Yup still waiting on return email.

From: midwest
03-May-20
Neil, from Carter or Nock On?

From: mooseslayer
03-May-20
Bb, i have issues with using index finger type release also. When at full draw and just starting to settle in on the target the index finger just wants to launch that arrow asap. Not too bad in hunting situations, but definitely could be better, but shooting 3-d forget it after the first couple shots. My question to you is are you using a thumb style release or is it back tension and can you hunt with it?

From: bb
03-May-20
The silverback and the Nock 2 it are basically the same release dimensionally. Silverback is back tension only, while the nock 2 it has a thumb release but I position my thumb on the trigger so I'm not using the tip like you would if you were going to depress the trigger. I kind of get the trigger down toward the base of my thumb and use back tension only to depress the trigger. The key is setting the sear so there is virtually no play before it releases. The release is very crisp and is activated by the pressure exerted by your thumb by continually increasing the pressure by pulling against it. If that makes sense. I hunt with both the nock 2 it is easier to hunt with as it's easier to clip to the loop also you can keep it clipped to the loop if you choose. but I use back tension to release either one, even hunting. I don't think the brand matters, the concept is the same regardless. Keep in mind the back tension release I'm talking about is not a hinge style. The hinge style I don't think is good for T/P as the release can be anticipated and manipulated just like a trigger. In my opinion the slilverback is the better release to start with to cure target panic because there is no way to manipulate the release, absent a complete melt down and just yanking the string back. Once you get the release undercontrol with the silverback, the natural progression would be to go to the nock2 it or similar.

From: mooseslayer
03-May-20
Thanks bb I'm desperate to try something to help with the tp. I used a scat release, hydraulic, and had some luck with non moving 3d targets, but wasn't the best for hunting situations.

From: Scrappy
03-May-20
X2 on bb's target panic fix. I use my thumb release the exact same way.

From: NeilH1967
04-May-20
From nock on

From: Bowfreak
04-May-20
Nock On is going to tell you to send it to Carter. Call Carter.

04-May-20
Is the two finger draw hard to get used to when switching from wrist strap style release?

From: midwest
04-May-20
You can draw with 3 fingers.

From: bb
04-May-20
I didn't find it difficult to make the transition, I also didn't find it difficult to draw with two or 3 fingers.

From: phoneman
04-May-20
as far as target panic goes, I watched on youtube Levi Morgan's 4 series on target panic and found it quite helpful. I liked the idea about using a heavy thumb release.

From: NeilH1967
04-May-20
Target panic is for world class shooter, when you shoot animals as 40 and in if you can’t hit target regardless of “ target panic” then put down the bow n pick up a gun.

From: bb
04-May-20
You're mistaken. Your comment demonstrates a total lack of understanding of what target panic is. There is a lot published on it.

From: NeilH1967
04-May-20
I know exactly what it is, Iv read on it a million times. It’s where you panic on target... duhhhh! Lol just kidding man. Was a joke comment

From: bb
04-May-20
Well Joke or not, I'll give you a little insight. I have had it as bad as anyone for for probably a solid 25 years. I got good at dealing with it, you would never know I had it if you watched me shoot, I was really accurate with it, but it was a chore. I tried every remedy known to man. The style of release I changed to was the answer for me. I'll also tell you, it's no joke for people who have it and and there are many. Anyone can develop it at any time. It has nothing to do with distance of the shot and it doesn't necessarily mean you can't hit what you are shooting at. Proper shooting form to begin with is what is likely to prevent coming down with it, ie not punching the trigger to begin with. In any event. best of luck getting your release issue sorted out.

From: NeilH1967
04-May-20
Number 1 set is go to a pro shop! Not a back country darton dealer but an actual shop that has pros that have been factory trained, then seek a archery coach. I’m sure a lot of people don’t want to spend that kind of money or take that kind of time into fixing the issue. They just learn to deal with it. If you have to deal with it keep your targets in close and you’ll be fine

From: bb
04-May-20
Thanks for the advice.

From: carcus
05-May-20
Most have TP, a resistance activated is best, a hinge is good but not as good, I've even had my kids to tell me when to release the arrow, this works as well

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