Mountaineering Rest Step well explained
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altitude sick 05-Jul-20
altitude sick 05-Jul-20
Scrappy 05-Jul-20
midwest 05-Jul-20
midwest 05-Jul-20
altitude sick 05-Jul-20
KSflatlander 05-Jul-20
Franklin 05-Jul-20
Pyrannah 05-Jul-20
Jaquomo 05-Jul-20
IdyllwildArcher 05-Jul-20
KSflatlander 05-Jul-20
IdyllwildArcher 05-Jul-20
JTreeman 05-Jul-20
Matt 05-Jul-20
MQQSE 05-Jul-20
MQQSE 05-Jul-20
altitude sick 05-Jul-20
From: altitude sick
05-Jul-20

altitude sick's Link
Allen Bollen, of the BC mountain goat company explains the rest step very well in this video.

From: altitude sick
05-Jul-20
Sorry guys

KUIU Mountain Academy 2019 - Allen Bolen: The Secret to Hiking All Day

From: Scrappy
05-Jul-20
I can't find the vid?

From: midwest
05-Jul-20

From: midwest
05-Jul-20
That's very interesting and I will most definitely be giving this a try this September!

From: altitude sick
05-Jul-20
IT WORKS! Exceeding your maximum heart rate too long and you won’t last long. Lactic acid builds up in the muscles Leading to cramping and muscle soreness the next day.

Keep your heart rate below your max. For an average person it’s usually around 170

For extreme inclines and altitudes a heart rate monitor is not a bad idea if you haven’t spent a lot of time in the steep and high.

People may think your silly watching a heart rate monitor while climbing.

But while they are sucking wind you’ll will be cruising on by.

And by day 5 they will be spent

Save it for when it’s time to $h!+ and git.

From: KSflatlander
05-Jul-20
Great subject to discuss and thanks for posting. I’m curious about others experience with the rest step. How long did it take to get use to? How much has it helped you? How long have you been using this method?

Thanks again for starting this thread.

From: Franklin
05-Jul-20
The "Sherpa Shuffle".....

From: Pyrannah
05-Jul-20
Just tried this on a local hill, it is slow, I can see how it would work though for sure

From: Jaquomo
05-Jul-20
I believe Dwight Schuh did a version of this as he got older.

From: IdyllwildArcher
05-Jul-20
This has been known in the mountaineering world for a long time.

In the flatter stuff, its very easy. It's when you're carrying weight and going straight up that you really need to pace yourself. Your baseline cardiac function has a ton to do with this and is why I devote all my exercise to cardiopulmonary health and almost zero to muscle bulk creation, which just adds more weight to carry which burns you out that much quicker (although I am going to build up my quads a bit more this year to aid me in those times when I need to make quick descents in a stalking situation.

I've said this before and always get scorn from the body builders who want to justify their cosmetic exercise.

From: KSflatlander
05-Jul-20
Idyll- how do you prepare? What exercises?

From: IdyllwildArcher
05-Jul-20
Full body workout with a goal of cardiopulmonary fitness to keep all muscle groups toned (but not adding muscle bulk), at least once a week (usually spread out over a few days). The rest of my exercise, the bulk of it anyways, is all elliptical, running, hiking, or stair machine. Can't do bike anymore.

From: JTreeman
05-Jul-20
Ike, are you saying you forgot how to ride a bike!?!?! ;)

—Jim

From: Matt
05-Jul-20
More likely he can no longer lift it on and off the rack due to the effectiveness of his upper body bulk minimization strategy. ;-)

From: MQQSE
05-Jul-20
I just showed my son this a few days ago. We are going on a double Dall hunt in a few weeks. He’s 20 and just looked at me like, WTH....

From: MQQSE
05-Jul-20
I just showed my son this a few days ago. We are going on a double Dall hunt in a few weeks. He’s 20 and just looked at me like, WTH....

From: altitude sick
05-Jul-20
MQQSE, A 20 yr old will most likely charge up 200 yards stop, suck wind and try to talk.

charge up 200 yards stop, suck wind. And repeat.

Sometimes it’s unavoidable to head off an animal.

But when just Climbing, force yourself to “pressure breath”. And slow down. It will pay off in a few days.

I was just impressed how Bolen&Lewis really push the technique. And some say they know what their doing.

I’ve been up quite a few over 14k 3 Peaks over 20,000 ft, And 1 peak over 25,000 ft.

Beware the guide that thinks He’s impressing people running a hunter up the hill many times showing how good of shape HE the guide is in.

What is impressive is a guide that knows how to get his hunter to the top day in and day out. Without killing him.

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