Eliminating Hunting and Fishing in Ca
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Contributors to this thread:
DL 31-Jul-20
kentuckbowhnter 31-Jul-20
chesapeakeborn 31-Jul-20
DL 01-Aug-20
TD 01-Aug-20
wyliecoyote 01-Aug-20
KSflatlander 01-Aug-20
Bake 01-Aug-20
itshot 01-Aug-20
IdyllwildArcher 01-Aug-20
DL 02-Aug-20
4nolz@work 02-Aug-20
shade mt 02-Aug-20
Hackbow 02-Aug-20
Bowbender 02-Aug-20
'Ike' (Phone) 02-Aug-20
Twinetickler 02-Aug-20
South Farm 03-Aug-20
DL 03-Aug-20
Roper 03-Aug-20
Bowmania 04-Aug-20
TrapperKayak 04-Aug-20
Ucsdryder 04-Aug-20
TrapperKayak 04-Aug-20
Ucsdryder 04-Aug-20
TrapperKayak 04-Aug-20
From: DL
31-Jul-20
AB3030. The state has already established zones on the coast that we can no longer take anything from. Fishing and diving to get seafood is banned in these zones. They claim it will have a spillover affect once the populations in these zones increase. Most species need reefs and rocks to live around. So they grave those areas and give us areas that never will be populated. Now it’s onto land. They want to set aside 30% of the state public and private and make it a no take zone. They want to make 30% of the ocean and 30% of the land, waterways and lakes no take zones by 2030. So they take prime hunting habitat and claim it will preserve the wildlife. Preserve it for cats and bears. They’ll grab some elk, Antelope, Deer and wild sheep habitat. That will mean less hunting opportunities. Sneaky way to end hunting. We have fewer hunters every year because of fewer animals. Now take away huntable land. It sounds like a good idea to the general population. The only animals that will benefit are predators. We won’t see any benefit

31-Jul-20
liberals will end hunting and fishing in California and Colorado within the next 20 years. Then it will spread as the deadbeat population grows and socialism takes over. They will look for every way, like they do now, to punish successful working folks and taking away the sporting outdoors will be one of the punishments.

31-Jul-20
this IS the most socialist country on earth, ask a imigrant

From: DL
01-Aug-20

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This about a global movement to set aside 30% of the planet. New Mexico Democrat is on board. I’d pay attention to what your state is going try and do.

From: TD
01-Aug-20
Not just CA......I would implore all sportsmen/freedom lovers/patriots to pay close attention in every state as to what democrats/socialists are about. For example Biden's plan to put Beto "I am coming for your guns" in charge of gun control and AOC in charge of EPA and implementing the Green New Deal. And The Bernie Bros in charge of taxes. Before they come on and tell you that's not true..... all have been stated by Biden already, with his own words (regardless if he actually remembers saying them or not.....)

Vote. Talk to others and encourage they do so as well. This likely could be the most important election in your lifetime. Just take a look at events all around you. And imagine life when these people are put in control of yours. They are taking the opportunity of literal overthrow seriously. You should as well.

From: wyliecoyote
01-Aug-20
Re; AB 3030 There is one major item we all need to be together on....I think the confusion occurred when Bass Pro/Cabelas sent out ALERTS via email and declared the bill would stop hunting and fishing in the referenced 30% of Calif. The bill actually says the 30% would be protected...and there is no clarification about what this means. The bill did pass the assembly on a pure party-line vote and will come up in committee in the State Senate this Wednesday. Calif. Bowmen Hunters (CBH) along with almost every sportsman's group in Calif. is actively involved with members of both parties discussing various amendments. All agree that the bill is poorly written and raises as many questions as it gives answers. Much of Calif. is already protected in various ways and these areas are not listed or referenced. The Ca. Senate is heavily controlled by the Democratic Party but they often do their own thinking and decision making. We outdoorsmen do need to be concerned and watch the updates and amendment process in the next few weeks. This bill flys in the face of recent R3 legislation inplace nationwide including California...If you don't know what R3 is....google it up!!

From: KSflatlander
01-Aug-20
The people behind something like this have no clue that hunting is the best tool for wildlife management to prevent a whole host of problems when wildlife is not managed properly. The majority of ecosystems are too modified ever find naturally balance. It has been proven time and time again that properly regulated hunting equals healthy populations of all flora and fauna.

From: Bake
01-Aug-20
I’ve thought for years that if you want a Tule, you better book that hunt. CA will ban hunting in my lifetime I bet

From: itshot
01-Aug-20
KS, yep

some really "smart people" can really F up a good thing, before and after

01-Aug-20
I'd like 30% of my lifetime hunting license cost back.

This is ridiculous. There's already a crazy amount of land in CA locked up that cannot be hunted in National and State Parks. And there's been no-hunting preserves all over the state since 1908 and they've been shown to be worthless in expanding game numbers in surrounding areas.

From: DL
02-Aug-20
I’ve hunted around that Dixie refuge up north. Just more bears and cats. Throw in a few Sasquatch and the trifecta of destruction is complete.

From: 4nolz@work
02-Aug-20
Kalifornistan.Vote them in.Screw them.

From: shade mt
02-Aug-20
stop listening to the liberals. Take a good hard look around, The conservatives didn't cause this mess.

From: Hackbow
02-Aug-20
There's a an old saying about snakes that I never bought into, but seems applicable to Democrats.

From: Bowbender
02-Aug-20
"The people behind something like this have no clue that hunting is the best tool for wildlife management to prevent a whole host of problems when wildlife is not managed properly."

Elections have consequences. Remember that when you flip the "D" lever at the votiing booth. Californians shit in their bed. They can sleep in it. Unfortunately they are like a cancer and migrate out spreading their cancer wherever they land. Killing the next host.

02-Aug-20
I’m really hoping this ‘civil war’ thing kicks off, if for no reason other than to eliminate the current political alignment in some states and start over...SMH

From: Twinetickler
02-Aug-20
I know one thing Southern Utah doesn't want California pea brained liberals and Vegas is just as bad if not worse. We have a complete fire ban, but apparently they can't read the big flashing signs they drive by. Leave their trash laying around and camps up all summer long. This year has been a complete joke being overrun by arrogant, dont give a shit about anybody but themselves Vegasites and Californian numb nuts. Stay in your own armpit cities.

From: South Farm
03-Aug-20
I hear what some of you are saying, but keep in mind nobody, not even "liberals", can take from you that which you refuse to let them. More and more these days we're becoming apathetic, just so willing to say "well, that's that!" and roll over...knowing we can still pursue other species in other parts of the country. Well, you all know the old adage of give 'em and inch they'll take a mile...one day you'll wake up with NOWHERE to hunt and before you point fingers take a look in the mirror. They can't throw us all in jail. Hell, they can't even take back their cities from a handful of looting thug;, how they gonna chase down 30 million outdoorsmen?!?

From: DL
03-Aug-20
VOTE Dang it!!!

From: Roper
03-Aug-20
Trump 2020.

From: Bowmania
04-Aug-20
If Trump doesn't win in 2020, I give hunting a max of 20 years.

Bowmania

From: TrapperKayak
04-Aug-20
The people behind something like this......DON'T CARE ABOUT.....healthy populations of all flora and fauna.

From: Ucsdryder
04-Aug-20
California is a lost cause. What scares me is that it seems every “test” is done first in california. Then they take the blueprint to Colorado.

From: TrapperKayak
04-Aug-20
Don't think for a minute that it is limited to Colorado. CA cancer has been spreading to and metastisizing in Montana for at least 4 decades now...not to mention WA and OR, which is one reason those two states are 'on fire' right now... liberally speaking.

From: Ucsdryder
04-Aug-20
Oh yeah, Oregon might be worse due to the hippie mentality. Every hippie in Northern California had a dream of moving to Portland, the land of the dirtbag. Hell, I know a couple people that I worked with in Colorado that quit their jobs, bought crappy motor homes and moved to Oregon to get out of the “rat race” and live a free life.

From: TrapperKayak
04-Aug-20
I worked in Portland for 20 years. It was affordable when I first moved to the gorge. Then a whole bunch of CA yuppies with big bucks, former techies (not the hippies) sold their homes for huge buck in CA and moved to Wa and Or, and drove up the prices of housing there, to unaffordable levels. The hippies don't own as much land as the yuppies, who are way more likely to slam hunting. Some of the hippies try to live off the land, therefore, harvest. Not all though. The big money CA influence is the main roadblock to hunting and fishing IMO though

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