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More on hunting etiquette
Wondering what others feel about people who camp right at trailheads. Its clearly a move to block others from wanting to hunt that area. Do you pull up and hunt anyway? I tend to go elsewhere and not deal with them, but that is exactly what they want.
Depends on how much land is on the other side of the trailhead. The more there is the more likely I am to go.
I wouldn’t over think it. I’ve camped at a trailhead. No other reason than to have pickup camping accommodations but not have to fire up a rig and beat down the road in the morning. If it’s public and I don’t mind sharing a space I go where I like even if rigs are in the area. Usually in the places I hunt people are hard to avoid even if you take off from a different area. Just go hunt.
I'd rather have someone camped at a trailhead than camped 1 mile in.
That said, I avoid trailheads like the plague unless my plan is to make a 90 degree turn at the trailhead and follow the private off trail. Human trails are hunter funnels. Animals that hang around them die; the ones that are alive quickly learn to avoid them during hunting hours/season.
“ I'd rather have someone camped at a trailhead than camped 1 mile in.”
No doubt about that!
Depends. I don’t think someone camping at a trailhead is them trying to take control of the area. If it’s a small area and won’t support multiple hunters then I’ll probably move on. If it’s a big area go for it.
Good to know. I've always thought it was uncool. There are several good places I like to hunt that are limited access and not huge areas. Sounds like no big deal to camp out on the access, I will move in next season for a couple weeks. Thanks.
Just walk on by and go in to hunt.
Never thought of it as rude. Thought of it as handy. Anybody who’s wandered into camp versus wandering to a parked vehicle, that you use to drive you back to camp, sees that advantage quickly. .
I had a situation this year where there is about a mile of road you drive to get to the trailhead (off the main drive route) and had a group of hunters set up their camp about 1/4 of the way RIGHT in the middle of the road. I went back to my camp and got my 4 wheeler, went back and drove right through their camp to the trailhead gate. Total lack of etiquette and complete selfishness. It's a sad way these days!
“ I will move in next season for a couple weeks. “
Not sure how cool THAT is....
I'd go around the camp and hunt.
I would have issue with it?
My camp or your camp does not claim an area. I camp a a trail head, that I don't hunt every day on. If someone pulls up and hikes in, that is fine with me.
Totally dependent on situation. Camped at a major trail head into the backcountry. . . . No problem.
Camped blocking the end of a closed logging road (like I saw this year), obviously to discourage access---jerk move.
If the camp is located so as to discourage or block access, it's a jerk move. If it's located nearby, or doesn't impede or otherwise discourage access (other than you know someone else is obviously hunting there), then I have no problem whatsoever.
We camped this year just past the gate because it was the only place flat enough to put camp. I would have no issue with someone walking through camp to go hunt beyond. And they are welcome to stop on their way to/from and say "hi".
I’ve camped just beyond a gate. I never thought the area or the closed access road was “mine”. My tent crowded the edge of the road because of the huge grove of “dick pines” in the area.
I’ve hiked past camps at trail heads and near gates of closed roads and never gave it a thought other than, “When are these guys going to get up and get at it?”
Bake, Agree, you said it better than I did.
Anyone blocking a road is a d-bag. Camping at a trailhead isn't as bad imo, but I can also see how some might view it as trying to block access. It wouldn't stop me though. I would just walk around it or threw it. My beef is what is referenced on another thread where people treat NF as their own and park a camper all season on a spot. In WY I was scouting bear hunting spots and all summer the same rvs were in the same spots. Vacant during the week....people just park them there all season and act like it is their land.
Just to be clear ryanc. I was off the road. Just crowding the edge. Guy lines were not staked in the road. Fly was against the trees on the other side. Not blocking the road. I agree that anyone blocking a road is a d-bag.
The camp Bake referred to was a bunch of guys from WI (in WY) who literally blocked the entire entrance to a closed road with big tents, a trailer, tables and chairs, plus their trucks. Two had tags and I'm pretty sure the whole bunch was party hunting.
Anyway, I had been hunting that closed road since opening day, and had to walk through their chairs (where they were sitting) and around their grill to reach the gate. The guy who was apparently the Huntmaster stood up and puffed up his chest and got in my face and informed me they were hunting there now. I told him I was too. He said their "group" had been coming there for 7 years, so apparently they had some claim to the road.
Long story short, they blew all the elk out of that basin in a day and a half (which I'd been hunting the same bulls off and on for two weeks when the wind was right) then packed up and moved somewhere else to screw others up. In their wake, they left huge piles of crap and big wads of toilet paper all over beside the closed road. Looked like each guy used about 1/3 of a roll and just scattered it around after wiping. There is hunting etiquette and lifestyle etiquette. These pigs lacked both.
Lou, that would have been a great opportunity to take pictures of garbage and license plates and share with the forest service guys. I bet they’d love to pay them a visit.
The area I hunt elk guys were camped at most of the access trails, I moved on, but these trails access huge area's, I just like to avoid conflict, but there would be nothing wrong with walking right by their camp.