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Relocation, what state would you live in
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Contributors to this thread:
Crosscut 16-Nov-20
Crosscut 16-Nov-20
NorCalVineyards 16-Nov-20
Jaquomo 16-Nov-20
Stix 16-Nov-20
Grey Ghost 16-Nov-20
Bowboy 16-Nov-20
keepemsharp 16-Nov-20
Ziek 16-Nov-20
Crosscut 16-Nov-20
jdbbowhunter 16-Nov-20
jdbbowhunter 16-Nov-20
kadbow 16-Nov-20
Ziek 16-Nov-20
Surfbow 16-Nov-20
320 bull 16-Nov-20
Bake 16-Nov-20
Kurt 16-Nov-20
DMTJAGER 16-Nov-20
JohnMC 16-Nov-20
Supernaut 16-Nov-20
Jaquomo 16-Nov-20
Deertick 16-Nov-20
air leak 16-Nov-20
IdyllwildArcher 16-Nov-20
Ned 16-Nov-20
MichaelArnette 16-Nov-20
Bob H in NH 16-Nov-20
Brotsky 16-Nov-20
standswittaknife 16-Nov-20
Hoot 16-Nov-20
midwest 16-Nov-20
Screwball 16-Nov-20
newfi1946moose 16-Nov-20
Whocares 16-Nov-20
cnelk 16-Nov-20
WV Mountaineer 16-Nov-20
elash 16-Nov-20
TrapperKayak 16-Nov-20
Nick Muche 17-Nov-20
TrapperKayak 17-Nov-20
Charlie Rehor 17-Nov-20
jstephens61 17-Nov-20
TrapperKayak 17-Nov-20
midwest 17-Nov-20
Dale06 17-Nov-20
TrapperKayak 17-Nov-20
papadeerhtr 17-Nov-20
Teeton 17-Nov-20
Live2Hunt 17-Nov-20
BigOzzie 17-Nov-20
TrapperKayak 17-Nov-20
Nick Muche 17-Nov-20
Jaquomo 17-Nov-20
Missouribreaks 17-Nov-20
South Farm 17-Nov-20
BigOzzie 17-Nov-20
Mt. man 17-Nov-20
tundrajumper 17-Nov-20
GrantK 17-Nov-20
South Farm 17-Nov-20
badbull 17-Nov-20
ground hunter 17-Nov-20
Deertick 17-Nov-20
jingalls 18-Nov-20
Teeton 18-Nov-20
Live2Hunt 18-Nov-20
Jaquomo 18-Nov-20
NorCalVineyards 18-Nov-20
TrapperKayak 18-Nov-20
LONEBULL 18-Nov-20
woodguy65 18-Nov-20
Elkpacker1 18-Nov-20
Thisismyhandle 19-Nov-20
altitude sick 19-Nov-20
JL 19-Nov-20
Monarchcx 19-Nov-20
TrapperKayak 19-Nov-20
TD 19-Nov-20
Thisismyhandle 19-Nov-20
TD 19-Nov-20
Thisismyhandle 19-Nov-20
Crosscut 19-Nov-20
midwest 20-Nov-20
Z Barebow 20-Nov-20
moonman 20-Nov-20
RD in WI 20-Nov-20
Sand man 20-Nov-20
Sand man 20-Nov-20
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ben yehuda 21-Nov-20
NorCalVineyards 22-Nov-20
txhunter58 22-Nov-20
BULELK1 22-Nov-20
txhunter58 22-Nov-20
eddie c 22-Nov-20
midwest 22-Nov-20
TD 23-Nov-20
From: Crosscut
16-Nov-20
If you could live anywhere what state would would you land in??

From: Crosscut
16-Nov-20
My wife and love the west and love to bowhunt in the backcountry. We are a stones through away from retirement and could get by on part time and or seasonal employment. Our dream is to be a resident in a retirement friendly state like Wyoming and snowbird down to a southern state in our RV for 4-5 months. What state would pick to be a resident in if you could live anywhere??

16-Nov-20
This rolls with my post on the mule deer section about relocation, be interesting to see the responses Glen. I am personally undecided but UT, AZ, CO, are on the short list.

From: Jaquomo
16-Nov-20
Definitely WY if you can leave from mid November until mid April.

From: Stix
16-Nov-20
Nothing wrong with Colorado, there are lots of hunting opportunities. Just gotta divorce yourself from the politics. Yeah it getting crowded, but once retired (like me) you're able to hunt areas where people are not. People have to work, and wherever the jobs are is where people are going to reside. Also, The first $25k of retirement income is not taxed in Colorado.

I do find in Colorado, more people spend alot of time complaining, that would be better spent recreating in some way. In fact I'll be bowhunting today. Have PLO deer licenses that last until Nov. 30

From: Grey Ghost
16-Nov-20
I'm content in Colorado. It's where I was born, and where I'll likely die. That said, snowbirding in the south during the winter months has become increasingly more appealing to us each year. There's something about that hot, humid, and salty air that seems to heal the everyday aches and pains that age and cold weather brings on.

Wyoming is a great state, but my wife would be bored to tears there. She needs more social activities and culture than I do. Splitting time between Colorado and Florida seems to work for both of us.

Matt

From: Bowboy
16-Nov-20
I already landed in the perfect state for me. Wyoming is great to live in, but most people don't care for the wind.

From: keepemsharp
16-Nov-20
Move to CA with your full gun safe and get started straightening them out.

From: Ziek
16-Nov-20
Colorado still has a lot to offer. I moved to Vail in 1971 at 18, and now live in the northern front range. We have a great property in the foothills. (I watched a 4X4 mule deer this morning harassing a doe, and there are 10 turkeys in the yard as I write this). However, it is getting crowded, and traveling to the high country on weekends is to be avoided. We've been all over the country, the last several years with an eye to where we might want to move, but the best we can find is maybe a move to another part of Colorado.

From: Crosscut
16-Nov-20
Keepemsharp I think I’ll let the young folks fight this on the front lines. Like one of my brothers said “I’ll keep the clips loaded”. Plus I’m not very vested in arms and ammo, put all my eggs in the archery basket.

From: jdbbowhunter
16-Nov-20
Probably Montana,wish iwould have done it 30years ago.

From: jdbbowhunter
16-Nov-20
Probably Montana,wish iwould have done it 30years ago.

From: kadbow
16-Nov-20
Wyoming!

From: Ziek
16-Nov-20
One thing no one has mentioned is access to quality medical services. If you are reaching retirement age and don't want to relocate again at some point, you might want to consider that. No one travels to Wyoming or Montana for quality medical resources when something serious comes up. There are other areas I would consider if I were 20 again, not so much at 67, but then again, when I was 20 Colorado was a LOT more enticing, with far fewer people, than now.

From: Surfbow
16-Nov-20
A different part of Colorado...

From: 320 bull
16-Nov-20
I live in Mi and love it here. Oh wait never mind I'm not allowed to think for myself ask our governor what you should do.

From: Bake
16-Nov-20
I personally love the Powder River basin along the east side of the Bighorns. That's where I would be if I ever moved within the US.

From: Kurt
16-Nov-20
We relocated from CO for a super job opportunity in BC when I was 57 that is in a relatively rural area, but very near the regional 85,000 person population center. The town has the regional hospital, University, COSTCO, Walmart, Home Depot, all the auto dealerships, etc.

BC has 16 species of big game (15 huntable in 2020), all but 3 species available on over the counter licenses. Our location has a moderate climate, we have 35 fruit trees in the yard on our recent build, lots of irrigation water for my wife's gardening, etc.

We became dual citizens after 6 years or so. Anyway, the move has worked out for us and we liked leaving all the CO growth and traffic behind. BC politics are left leaning around the big cities, but right leaning locally...at least in Canadian terms.

Bow hunting has been very good to me in province with a Grizzly, Canada moose, Stone sheep, Mt caribou, Roosevelt elk and Blacktail going in the freezer. Also a bunch of black bears and some whitetails. Unfortunately, BC has "poor" mule and whitetail hunting by my standards, mainly due to a 3-month rifle season combined with First Nations hunting and predators...Wolves, Coyotes and a lot of Cougars.

That said, it in't easy to get into Canada to work unless you have a specialty they are looking for.

From: DMTJAGER
16-Nov-20
Without doubt or hesitation WYOMING. Least populated state with 6-7x FEWER people in the ENTIRE state then in many a SINGLE American city. As my friends in Wyoming say Wyoming is MILES and MILES of MILES and MILES. I plan on retiring there, buying a home as far away from everything and everybody as I can get and live out my years in piece free people and from social media.

From: JohnMC
16-Nov-20
Make a list and go visit the places on list. You will know it when you find it.

From: Supernaut
16-Nov-20
I've had this discussion with my wife recently. I've lived in PA my entire life, it's home and I love the hunting and fishing. I hate the government in PA and the way things are run. Unfortunately our two major cities on each side of the state, Pittsburgh and Philly carry the majority of the vote and the rest of us have to live with the results.

You all might think I'm crazy but if I had to move states I'd head straight for West Virginia. I've spent a lot of time working in WV the past 15-20 years and it's everything PA is without the shitty government. The wife's pick is a state with a beach LOL.

From: Jaquomo
16-Nov-20
Makes a huge difference when you are single or an empty nester, vs. relatively young with a career, wife who likes social activities (and not thrilled about 8 months of wind and cold), and kids into sports and other extracurricular activities. A place like Pinedale WY might not be the best place for that family, although it sounds great from the outside.

From: Deertick
16-Nov-20
Pinedale is fine, Lou ... in the summer!

From: air leak
16-Nov-20
We live in CT. As long as our kids and grandkids are here, we are not going anywhere.

My wife retires in June, and we talked about renting down south for Jan - March at some point.

Now hypothetically speaking, I would move to Maine or NH in a heartbeat.

16-Nov-20
Alaska ,then Wyoming.

If you're looking at relocating as it pertains to hunting, I think an important thing to consider is what you get as a resident over being a non-resident. Some states, you don't pick up too much more being a resident compared with other states.

Where you actually want to live is a whole-nother discussion.

From: Ned
16-Nov-20
Any Republican ran state, while they still exist

16-Nov-20
Idaho

From: Bob H in NH
16-Nov-20
Wife and i are empty nesters, closing in on retirement and debt free.

We pulled the plug and moved to WY. The hunting is awesome, we've put more in the freezer in 2 years than rest of our marriage in NH.

Do not underestimate the pull of family and friends. We underestimated that. Then our son had the audacity to give. Us an adorable grandson. We always said airplanes get us back at any time.

We don't plan on going g back as we love it here, but its harder than we thought

From: Brotsky
16-Nov-20
Wyoming and I'd winter in the south, Dakota that is, South Dakota :)

16-Nov-20
I would relocate tomorrow to Wyoming. I live in Colorado and cannot stand the politics and honestly the big game hunting is subpar comparatively speaking.

From: Hoot
16-Nov-20
My wife and I are looking into South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho. Colorado politics and population is getting worse by the year. We have a young family and it is hard to pick up and leave, and job prospects are not as appealing as my current job, but we’ve been getting our ducks in a row for a couple years now, finish my bachelors degree in March and that should help, we are going to visit Idaho and Montana this spring, hopefully the job markets pick up and we can find a new place to settle down...

From: midwest
16-Nov-20
Wyoming. The crappy wind and winters may help keep the libtard cancer at bay.

From: Screwball
16-Nov-20
Can't come up with somewhere I like better than Wisconsin. four season, need more conservatives, but no: hurricanes, actual earthquakes, poisonous snakes, weather is neutral really. Can visit the rest.

16-Nov-20
Left NY 11 years ago; moved to OK and built a new house. Retiring with 75% of pension, the difference in state taxes allowed the house. Have been able to hunt CA 5 times over that period. Compared to NNY, the winters here are comfortable. In effect we are reverse snowbirds spending summers in the much cooler foothills of the 'Dacks. Saw the largest buck of my lifetime last week while waiting for rifle season...200yds behind my house. Going to try to crossbow hunt next year as we have a long bow season. A drawback here is there seems to be a lot of poverty where we are ( a very rural area).

From: Whocares
16-Nov-20
Northern Minn. Keeps most of the riff raff out. Although summertime does see some Wisconsinites and Iowegians slip in.

From: cnelk
16-Nov-20
^^^ I think not! :) I moved from N Minnesota 32 years ago and you couldnt kick me back there.

Recently retired. N Colorado. Comfortable. Nice house/place to hang out. Nice weather. Working some side jobs to stay busy. All the hunting/fishing I need is within 4 hrs - Colorado, Wyoming, Nebraska. Good Bowsite friends nearby. Good medical in the area.

But... the Liberals are unreal.

16-Nov-20
Alaska would be my pick. Followed by Wyoming. After that, if not here in WV, it’d have to be some where near good off shore fishing. The more I do it, the more I realize unless I’m chasing elk out west or a dream hunt of one of many species in Alaska, I’d rather be on the Gulf Stream reeling in some fish.

Whitetail and such back home just fill voids of time now. I love to spring turkey hunt though. So, I’d never give that up. I’m just bored with typical whitetail hunting as a staple.

From: elash
16-Nov-20
We moved from Iowa to rural Wisconsin. The rural folks here are great. There's more people and fewer big deer. Fishing's much better. We like it.

From: TrapperKayak
16-Nov-20
Back to Montana, did it in '78 to go to college, and stayed 10 yrs, then to Wa State for 20 more to work the salmon rivers. But Montana is my 'home'....

From: Nick Muche
17-Nov-20
Not Alaska. Anywhere but there. It’s worse than Texas, if you can imagine that!

From: TrapperKayak
17-Nov-20
Nice try, Nick... :)

17-Nov-20
Iowa of course.

From: jstephens61
17-Nov-20
My first thought was Wyoming, 3 months of road construction and 9 months of winter.

But now I’m thinking Alaska, right next door to Nick.

From: TrapperKayak
17-Nov-20
js, Where its 6 mos of bugs, and six mos of darkness? ;)

From: midwest
17-Nov-20
Charlie, you'd fit right in. No better fly-over state to live in for a whitetail lover. Good people, good food, Busch beer.

From: Dale06
17-Nov-20
What about Oklahoma? I never hear it mentioned, good or bad.

From: TrapperKayak
17-Nov-20
ask grizz, he is a fan of OK. His description makes it sound real appealing.

From: papadeerhtr
17-Nov-20
I think Utah, but living in ohio all my life having all our families here farthest I would move would be West Virginia.

From: Teeton
17-Nov-20
For me I always thought of Colorado, but close to a boarding state that would give me one more place to hunt. I always said at 58 I would put my business up for sale and make that move. But now my long time girlfriend has 7 years before retiring (teacher) so my plans are pushed back some. Maybe? Keep thinking of doing it by becoming a camp host at a camp ground. Come late August send her back home and I stay in Colorado till archery seasons over. Then drive the Rv back home and hunt whitetails.

Anyone ever been a camp host??

From: Live2Hunt
17-Nov-20
I'll stay in Wisconsin, 4 seasons keep me too busy. Like the Fall, Winter and spring the best. Hunting, Ice Fishing and the spring fishing with 15000 lakes and unknown miles of streams and some wild steelhead streams keep me going. I did like Idaho, a lot. More so than any of the other western states. No desire at all for the South, I like to stay North of Central WI. The wife, well we have a lot of disagreements on that. We had an offer from my inlaw that he would buy us a house if we moved to Florida. You could not pay me enough is all I said.

From: BigOzzie
17-Nov-20
Nebraska

From: TrapperKayak
17-Nov-20
Oz, You're in the mountains of Montana and want to move to NE???? Huh??? Bozeman getting too Calfiornicated???

From: Nick Muche
17-Nov-20
Not Alaska. Anywhere but there. It’s worse than Texas, if you can imagine that!

From: Jaquomo
17-Nov-20
Never been a camp host but I've stayed in campgrounds out here in CO, WY, ID, and OR with them and talked to them quite a bit. You won't get much archery hunting time unless it's immediately adjacent to the campground. They're expected to be onsite pretty much all the time. You'll have to deal with some drunken yahoos who have a "hooray for me, to hell with you" attitude. If you get a gig next to a river or lake you can fish right there during off-time, but they are tough to come by because there's a seniority system involved with awarding the jobs. Some campgrounds close after Labor Day and that would be your best bet. Some others stay open through September.

17-Nov-20
No reason to live in just one state, there is so much out there.

From: South Farm
17-Nov-20
I've been a lot of places, problem is it's getting harder to "get away". I can go to spots that were considered paradise 20 years ago and they're will be somebody there waiting when I show up. I think a better approach is try to find happiness and be content where you are...unless you can move to the moon and be left alone there just ain't no guarantees your newfound location will be any better than the last.

From: BigOzzie
17-Nov-20
TrapperK Yep

When I graduated college I had to move away from whitefish, it was not the little town I grew up in.

After this summer I am going to have to move away from Columbia Falls, it is not the little town I raised my children in.

Next move?? Olney? who knows, getting harder and harder to get away.

oz

From: Mt. man
17-Nov-20
Idaho is FULL. Just saying... :-)

I hear Nick loves all the hunting he's doing in Alaska, heck he is even catching and eating huge trout!

From: tundrajumper
17-Nov-20
We moved from Minnesota in 92 to Alaska, best move we ever made. We do miss family and walleye fishing.

From: GrantK
17-Nov-20
WY would be really hard to beat from a hunting perspective, social life might suffer a bit...

From: South Farm
17-Nov-20
Rattlers in Wyoming, so I crossed that state off my list years ago..

From: badbull
17-Nov-20
South Farm, I am no expert on rattlers but I think that it makes a big difference where in Wyoming you go. I've spent quite a lot of time in Wyoming over the years and never encountered one in the higher country. In the lower antelope areas it can be a different story as I did kill 4 in one day on an antelope hunt. Some in southern Wyoming are the mean little sidewinders so don't tell a rancher down there that you let one live as they get pretty ticked off......Badbull

17-Nov-20
I have lived in southern California, in the 70s wonderful,,,, I was transferred to Cortez Colorado for a lot of years,,, very nice but not for me today....... I lived in Montana, and everything was an expedition, and not cheap..... I was sent to South Dakota, now there was a great state,,,,, but my last post was the UP,,,,,,, after that, I never left,,, to explain the UP, is something hard to do,,,,,, I have tons of water to fish, the lake Superior to chase fish, and yes not great size bucks, if your a score whore, but plenty of venison to go after,, and then there is Ontario, except for this year, is a short cross, and love that place...... the UP is the center of the Universe, you would have to be here,, to understand that...... the only place I would also be would be Wyoming, but since my daughter is getting transferred there next year, at a very big salary, I guess I will have the best of both worlds,,,,,,,,,,,,, another place I would live is Oklahoma, and never in Kansas, them people are not real friendly, in my opinion,,,,

From: Deertick
17-Nov-20
Wow ... sounds like we Wyoming residents are going to have a lot of company! Glad to think you’re so jealous.

From: jingalls
18-Nov-20
Wyoming, SouthDakota or Montana. I’m looking at a property in Cody now!

From: Teeton
18-Nov-20
Jaquomo, It seam like a lot of them camps grounds close up right after labor day. Not sure how many close up. But a few in places I hunted were closed and gated up by the times I got out hunting. So its just something I'm going to look into in the next year or so. I'm guessing that some close up earlier than others ???

From: Live2Hunt
18-Nov-20
Idaho is full?!!! Damn, oh well, no Elk, deer, sheep, rams, moose, bear, Mountain lions, birds etc. to hunt there, no steelhead, trout, perch or other fish to fish anyway. Not much for public land either. LOL.

From: Jaquomo
18-Nov-20
Yeah, they close at all different times. This year a big USFS campground near me closed the third week of September, and it was totally arbitrary. I was standing there with them when the host and the Forest Supervisor discussed and decided when to notify campers and lock the gate.

18-Nov-20
Jingalis, Nate Simmons wife is a real estate agent in Cody. We used her when we sold some property there and she was great.

From: TrapperKayak
18-Nov-20
Oz, I spent some time in Whitefish in the late 70s and 80s, skiing big Mt., and canoeing the lakes. Went back there two years ago and it was like a smaller version of Jackson Hole. Its sucked actually, compared to what it used to be. Got a friend in Col. Falls area, he has a good spot, is a Kalispell native. It is pretty hard to afford anything there now. I was looking at Craig , maybe decent opportunity there along the Missouri.

From: LONEBULL
18-Nov-20
jingalls, Don't hesitate to long on buying around Cody or it will go away quick!!! Lived here all my life and haven't seen anything like how property is selling right now!! People buying homes sight un-seen etc. just incredible.

From: woodguy65
18-Nov-20
Surprised nobody saying Tennessee.

From: Elkpacker1
18-Nov-20
Nobody mentioned Eastern WA. We recently sld our place on the west side to some Facebook manager. (thank you) and moved to just outside of Spokane. great area for everything. from thier can be in Idaho MT and even Wyoming in 6 hours. lots of fishing and deer/turky. fine dining in 30 minutes. 4 seasons. but alas everything is being bought up

19-Nov-20
I live in Connecticut and it sucks but my and my fiancée’s jobs are here for now. I should’ve left here a long time ago. I would’ve gone to Iowa, Kansas or Montana.

19-Nov-20
Thisismyhandle, At least the Libs will now be in charge. So Covid will disappear, Racism is over, since both were caused by you know who. And everything will now be free. What’s not to like about the North East. Unless of course your into freedom, the 2nd amendment and keeping your own money.

From: JL
19-Nov-20
Kinda surprised there is not alot of talk about AZ or NM.

For me....I'm still hoping to get a place in MT or WY because of wide open spaces, natural beauty, variety of critters, trout fishing, taxes or lack of, decent politics and friendly folks. I lived on the Oregon coast for 5 years and at one time would have thought about that. Great place for outdoors and beauty but it got Californicated and the politics went that way. The I-5 corridor rules the roost. I recall Bend, OR used to be a quiet little town back in the 80's. Last time I was there in 2005 it looked like an urban Yuppieville, USA and I didn't recognize it. That was very sad to me.

If it was strictly a fishing call....where I was born and raised....Florida. Hunting is a little weak but there is always something to fish for in salt or fresh water. You will always have something to fish for year round. Don't care for the heat or tourists though. The politics is shifting to the left-wing as New Englanders have been moving there and changing things for the worse IMO.

From: Monarchcx
19-Nov-20
Montana near the Idaho border.

From: TrapperKayak
19-Nov-20
I'd consider a move to Lyle, WA and fish/hunt the Klickitat every doggone day I lived out my life in retirement. Hunt and fish all the tribs, ridges, and drainages from Washougal to Wenatchee, via Goldendale. Lefty-owned state because of Seattle, but I can steer clear of that cluster #@$*...

From: TD
19-Nov-20
For Charlie...... =D

19-Nov-20
Altitude Sick, the northeast is just too overcrowded for me. The winters are(normally) cold and summers hot n humid, which is cool but Connecticut just doesn’t have the New England charm that the northern N.E. States have. There’s some good hunting here but not on the level of the Midwest and mountain states. Also yeah I love freedom, 2A and the idea of not paying ridiculous taxes. I’m a union member so anyplace I go before I can retire needs to be union friendly. Which eliminates basically every state past Missouri.

From: TD
19-Nov-20
TIMH...... I think CA and a couple others would welcome with open arms..... =D

19-Nov-20
I’m all set with California

From: Crosscut
19-Nov-20
It’s amazing how expensive property has become in the mountains out west. Even the sage brush flats are crazy expensive.

From: midwest
20-Nov-20
I just changed my answer to South Dakota. Hot, conservative governor, tax friendly to retirees, and they just legalized recreational weed.

Oh, and Brotsky lives there! ….but I can overlook that.

From: Z Barebow
20-Nov-20
I am 55 and scouting states to retire in. Many years ago, I had an idyllic image of living in a remote cabin with a wrap around porch, overlooking a miles and miles of expanse. Now, yes I would love it. But I also recognize I will want to access my grandkids and healthcare. Although I would still like to live in a rural environment, I need to have a larger airport to hop on a plane or have a good hospital within 2-3 hours.

I have a place in mind, but who knows. My target locations have moved several times in the last 5 years.

From: moonman
20-Nov-20
W.VA. for me.Almost heaven.

From: RD in WI
20-Nov-20
Brotsky seems like a heck of a person - that made Midwest's comment especially funny. I second South Dakota - no state taxes and a great jumping off point to other parts of the West. My wife and I were in Rapid City in September - holy cats it has expanded since we lived there in 2014.

From: Sand man
20-Nov-20
Kansas works now and I’d say it will in the future.

Once retired I will be a part time Alaskan.

Born in Anchorage and there is family ground in SE that a little cabin, I’m just sure will exist in the future...

From: Sand man
20-Nov-20
Kansas works now and I’d say it will in the future.

Once retired I will be a part time Alaskan.

Born in Anchorage and there is family ground in SE that a little cabin, I’m just sure will exist in the future...

20-Nov-20
Any ‘red’ state that has animals in it! :-)

21-Nov-20
If I were retiring I think I would be considering (in no particular order):

1. Cost of living 2. Recreation (hunting, social activities, golf, whatever is important) 3. Crime rates 4. Access to good medical care 5. Closeness to family (either immediately close or easy travel) 6. Weather 7. Politics in as much as they impact the other issues

I spent (give or take) the first 20 years of my life in the rural south, the next 20 mostly in central California, and now I'm in S. Alberta.

1. Cost of living is high and I make less than I did in Cali. 2. Lots of things to do for recreation, but with a young family I don't seem to make the time or have the energy for any of them. I've got elk, moose, and deer in the freezer and I haven't been hunting since I moved here, so it's not a total wash. 3. Crime ain't the best in Canada, but better than than most metro areas in the US. 4. Medical care has been great 5. All my extended family is spread across the entire continent 6. Weather is abysmal - stupidly cold 6-8 months of the year, buggy in the summer 7. Politics are conservative by Canadian standards.

I like living here, but now that I have typed this out I don't think I'll be retiring here haha

Unless my kids marry and start families here, then that my trump the other considerations

Good luck on your search!

22-Nov-20

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I thought this chart may be at least a discussion piece. 2020 data not out yet.

From: txhunter58
22-Nov-20
Damn, I hate to see Texas lead that list

From: BULELK1
22-Nov-20
I think I'll stay here in Utah.

It's so central to all the other states I hunt, when I have a tag.

3 1/2 hours drive to my Wyoming camp

5 hours to my Nv. camp

2 hours to my Idaho camp

10 hours to my Az. camp

25 hours to my Iowa camp

1/2 an hour to hunt my Wasatch Front bow deer/elk tag....

I'm very content to stay here.

Good luck, Robb

From: txhunter58
22-Nov-20
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From: eddie c
22-Nov-20
I have to pick Tennessee. Born and raised here. House is paid for. Kids and grandkids live here. 3 months of deer season (whitetail). Fishing year round.

From: midwest
22-Nov-20
tshunter58, how long before Texas becomes a swing state? Good Lord!

From: TD
23-Nov-20
Always bothered me, it's often folks that were part of the total FUBAR of a state will pick up and move to another and bring their stupid with them instead of assimilation.

Loss of freedoms, high taxes and high COL, etc. then plop down somewhere "better" to vote and demand the very things that caused the ruin of the state they left.

California is a truly awesome state...... Utopian, but for so many of the people.....

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